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YES!! Appeals Court Overturns D.C. Gun Ban

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posted on Mar, 9 2007 @ 08:29 PM
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Now the people in D.C. can protect their selfs.

Read it and weep commie's and socialists!


www.breitbart.com...

WASHINGTON (AP) -- A federal appeals court overturned the District of Columbia's long- standing handgun ban Friday, rejecting the city's argument that the Second Amendment right to bear arms applied only to militias.

In a 2-1 decision, the judges held that the activities protected by the Second Amendment "are not limited to militia service, nor is an individual's enjoyment of the right contingent" on enrollment in a militia.

The ban on owning handguns went into effect in 1976.

Roper




posted on Mar, 9 2007 @ 08:32 PM
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Sorry people I didn't see DTOM's post.


Good job Don't tread on me.


Roper ( doin' the snoopy happy dance)

[edit on 9-3-2007 by Roper]



posted on Mar, 9 2007 @ 08:44 PM
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It's all good.
You can have a topic in breaking news and another in the regualr forums


What I cannot understand is the lack of votes and comments about this ruling.
You'd think the pro-gun guys would all be out doing the Snoopy dance.


Here's the AP Breaking News link:
www.abovepolitics.com...



posted on Mar, 9 2007 @ 09:49 PM
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Originally posted by Roper
Read it and weep commie's and socialists!


And you felt you neded to say that, why?

I am a scoialist, and I believe in gun rights.


Anyways, I am glad to see this, as I feel that the majority of anti-gun
legislation is illegal and unconstiutional in the first place.

I do wonder, will this start happening with other cities with similiar laws.



posted on Mar, 10 2007 @ 09:00 AM
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I live in the Maryland , D.C. area and this is good for the area cause crime around here is crazy outta control.



posted on Mar, 10 2007 @ 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by iori_komei

Originally posted by Roper
Read it and weep commie's and socialists!


And you felt you needed to say that, why?

I am a scoialist, and I believe in gun rights.


Anyways, I am glad to see this, as I feel that the majority of anti-gun
legislation is illegal and unconstitutional in the first place.

I do wonder, will this start happening with other cities with similar laws.


OK, I'll tell you why.

Communism and Socialism are types of government that are treasonist to the Constitution of the United States of America and her people.

Eventually both types of government will take away the freedoms of it's citizens to gain more control and keeping/bearing arms will be the first to go.

Power corrupts! If you were the real President of the USA, you would be forced by your own party to take firearms away form the citizens.

That's how I see it.

Roper



posted on Mar, 10 2007 @ 06:00 PM
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Originally posted by Roper
Communism and Socialism are types of government that are treasonist to the Constitution of the United States of America and her people.


No they are not, I know what the constiution says, and no where in the
constitution does it prohibit the establishment of Socialism or Commu-
nism, in fact the constitution has at least one Communist ideal in it, that
being imminent domain.




Eventually both types of government will take away the freedoms of it's citizens to gain more control and keeping/bearing arms will be the first to go.


Any government, Communist, Socialist, Capitalist or anyhting else, will
try and do that if there is no oversight and checks and balances, and
they are given great amounts of control.




Power corrupts! If you were the real President of the USA, you would be forced by your own party to take firearms away form the citizens.


Power can and does corrupt some people yes, but that is not true
for everyone.

No, I would not, the president is not forced to do what there party wants,
infact most presidents do at least a few things there party does'nt want.

And apart from that, I would'nt, I would do what my own prsonal ide-
ology states, not what my party, saying I had one, wanted.



posted on Mar, 11 2007 @ 08:18 AM
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iori_komei,

Show me a country that is Communist or Socialist were I can walk in to the gun shop and buy that day a firearm?

This country is a Republic, that in it self prohibits Communism and Socialism.

The founding fathers talked and wrote about freedom and liberty. Your system iori komei takes freedom and liberty away.

I started a thread here; www.abovepolitics.com...'
and you made no comment?

Roper



posted on Mar, 11 2007 @ 08:42 AM
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i am glad to see this but it must be taken seriously now that an appeals court has made a ruling if d.c. wants to take it higher it has to go to the supreme court and what then? if they uphold it well and good that's as it should be but if they strike it down and decide with d.c. that it is a collective right we are screwed! i know this is not really all that likely but it is a scary decision point, yes the supreme court has been leaning in favor of individual rights but the second amendment is a case where even advocates of personal rights can't seem to see that we are the people not the government, there is a lot of yeah the army and cops should have guns but Joe lunch pail and suzy homemaker don't need them. a well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. 27 words that taken separately are not very hard to understand but, when you place them together in the constitution certain people don't seem to know who the people are or what infringed mean and what exactly keep or bear refer to. it seem pretty clear to me the people who wish to control you would want you disarmed, if i were going to do something against the best interests of a group of people i certainly would not want them to have guns.



posted on Mar, 11 2007 @ 08:59 AM
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Originally posted by Roper
iori_komei,

Show me a country that is Communist or Socialist were I can walk in to the gun shop and buy that day a firearm?


We are not far from becoming exactly that if some anti gun groups supported by certain corporate groups get away with it, and is plenty of elected officials been lobbied to do just that.



This country is a Republic, that in it self prohibits Communism and Socialism.


This country Republic is in danger and has been in danger for a long time, our nation calls itself a democratic nation but they fail to say that under democratic we are seen different variations of communism and socialism brought to us by the agendas of the political leaders we elect.

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The founding fathers talked and wrote about freedom and liberty. Your system iori komei takes freedom and liberty away.

Yes, they did but look at what our elected officials has done to our civil rights and constitutional rights while they are following their own agendas.

Are we truly free like our founding fathers wanted us to be? The only thing that is keeping the government from taking over the rights of the people to bear arms is the constitution that they are challenging all the time while in pursue of their own agendas, because the rights to bear arms is the only way that we can protect ourselves from what our government has turned into in this days.

The modern government we have is nothing but a mockery of what the founding fathers wanted this nation to be and to become, if they could get away with the constitution they would but rather we have bills like the patriot act and other laws that undermine our own constitutional rights when it’s convenient to do so.

The government already tried to take arms away during the disaster in the south and they will tried again when the situation looks favorable to do so.

This ruling is only protecting the constitution no us because our own elected government can used other ways to make sure that our rights to bear arms is limited.



posted on Mar, 11 2007 @ 09:38 AM
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the constitution is the watchdog and the second amendment are it's teeth.



posted on Mar, 11 2007 @ 12:39 PM
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i found some interesting statistics, wish i could find them now. but it showed that the majority of gun deaths in DC were suicides, that there were few to none accidental gun deaths, and that there were 1/3 as many homocides as suicides.

now, do you honestly think gun deaths are going to go down as a result of this ban being lifted?

is anything that is positive going to happen?



posted on Mar, 11 2007 @ 06:47 PM
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Originally posted by Roper
Show me a country that is Communist or Socialist were I can walk in to the gun shop and buy that day a firearm?


There is no country that is truly Socialist or Communist, and therefore
I can not do so.




This country is a Republic, that in it self prohibits Communism and Socialism.


No it deso'nt, the Soviet Union was made up of republics, that based
themselves on Communist ideals, however they were not a true
Communist entity.

A republic is simply a kind of government and it's structure.




The founding fathers talked and wrote about freedom and liberty. Your system iori komei takes freedom and liberty away.


No, it does not.
In fact, the kind of socialism I subscribe to, provides for a great many
more freedoms than exist anywhere in the world today.




I started a thread here; www.abovepolitics.com...'
and you made no comment?


I do not check every forum section, so I was not aware of it's existance.



posted on Mar, 11 2007 @ 09:10 PM
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as to the undocumented statistics on suicide 1. suicide IMHO is your own choice. in Oregon it is a state law that ok's dr. assisted suicide. 2. to kill your self with a gun you must already have one , and even the d.c. law did not prevent this according to the "statistics" stated, so there goes that argument, 3. if you want to commit suicide in d.c. just take a walk after dark. 4. the rights of the people should not be dependant on the actions of a few who would abuse those rights. 5. many very many more people are killed and die in traffic so if life saving is a request then make it harder to get a drivers lic. 6. it's the constitution whether you like guns or don't until that changes a small group of elected officials should not be able to circumvent it without the due process out lined in the constitution. 7. you and only you are responsible for your safety, calling 911 and hoping the cops will save you is at best wishful thinking and at worst asian suicide. now you may or may not agree with some of my arguments but any one of them by it self is a reason that a free people should have the right to keep and bear arms.



posted on Mar, 11 2007 @ 10:23 PM
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Originally posted by iori_komei

Originally posted by Roper
Show me a country that is Communist or Socialist were I can walk in to the gun shop and buy that day a firearm?


There is no country that is truly Socialist or Communist, and therefore
I can not do so.

(This statement is nothing but poli-trick speak.)




I started a thread here; www.abovepolitics.com...'
and you made no comment?


I do not check every forum section, so I was not aware of it's existance.


It's in the same forum as this thread, had socialism in the title, surely you couldn't have missed it?

Roper

[edit on 11-3-2007 by Roper]



posted on Mar, 11 2007 @ 10:31 PM
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Originally posted by Roper
(This statement is nothing but poli-trick speak.)


No, you asked me to do something that I can not do, since there are
no true Socialist or Communist countries.





It's in the same forum as this thread, had socialism in the title, surely you couldn't have missed it?


I did not see this thread by going into the section, it was in the news
section when I was looking at 'myFavorites'.

[edit on 3/11/2007 by iori_komei]


df1

posted on Mar, 11 2007 @ 11:15 PM
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Originally posted by Roper
This country is a Republic, that in it self prohibits Communism and Socialism.

The only ideology that is inconsistent with a republic is a monarchy. The US is a constitutional republic with the US Constitution as it's basis. Excepting a monarchy which is inconsistent with a republic by definition, I challenge you to show us exactly where in the US Constitution that any ideology is prohibited, banned or is otherwise inconsistent with the American republic.

[edit on 11-3-2007 by df1]



posted on Mar, 12 2007 @ 02:36 AM
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Df1

Wouldn't you say that a theocracy is prohibited by our Constitution?


df1

posted on Mar, 12 2007 @ 04:56 AM
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Originally posted by jsobecky
Wouldn't you say that a theocracy is prohibited by our Constitution?

Theocracy is a form of monarchy where some God is recognized as the monarch that lords over government. A crown is a crown whether made of gold or thorns.

Nice try, but your "hail Mary" pass falls harmlessly incomplete.


[edit on 12-3-2007 by df1]



posted on Mar, 12 2007 @ 06:32 AM
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seems this thread has been hijacked why not start a new thread and then others will know what the context of the discussion is.



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