What are the most elite special forces?, page 6

I feel that he was one of the most ungraceful warriors we ever had as a nation, although one of the most effective. most seals I know which is only less than a handful don't like talking about him, sorta shun him but admit that he was a genius in battle and that they do study his tactics, which when no rules apply do work great.

In his defense they were going to give him some cars that would have stuck out like a sore thumb over seas. but you're right no need for a benz when a fiat will do.

As for his relationship with bob. From the way he talks about bob he wasn't much of a friend to him. bob was probably wiser that marcinko, and he too was an awsome soldier (bob did nearly loose his hand after it was blown off in the rung sat zone by an enemy bullet) But marcinko always thought that bob wasn't even close to his peer on the battle field (marcinko was premoted twice as fast as bob, but only for his prowess on the battlefield)

Marcinko never knew when to back down, and from what he describes of his childhood the only thing he ever knew was how to act agressively and how to be a hustler, not good with the admirals who would prefer a slightly more maleable, less soveriegn, individuel to maintaine ultimate order. marcinkos passion got out of hand and now he is one of those who failed the ultimate test for sf operators. discipline. he was more animal, crazed kid in an adults body, than a socialite and you are correct he never did learn to play nice in the sandpit. which is important too.

but, also when someone is grossely more talented than his peers at a certain skill it really is almost untolerable to be told what to do by those who really haven't got a clue nearly as well as the more talented person. i'm not a SF dude, but I am much more talented at my job than my coworkers (no offense to them.) I too have been promoted in 2 years to the same level within the company I work at that would normally take 10 to 12 years. those who have been passed over in promotion because I got it instead often try to make a witch hunt out of me, constantly waiting for me to screw up in the slightest. It's really hard for me to respect or honor my superiors that don't even understand the game, somehow fell upwards in their profession and basically got lucky to be where they are. I work in the record industry, my superiors make lots of money. lots and it's really disapointing to know that because they are financial idiots ( trust me these guys don't even know what a IRA or a 401K is, and they come to me and ask what mutal funds are all about.) that the entire industry handled by these people is completely collapsing. they just don't understand how the gamed is played.

I imagine marcinko had the same problem and feelings about the us military's command structure. The part I understand that he never got was that often times you need to keep your head down and not cause a ripple in the system you are trying to excell in. some times you do need to create a few ripples or a wave or two. marcinko only knew to create waves. how to achieve his goals only through brute force. he would have done a little better if he had read machiaveli or at least paid more attention to what he was reading. in his defense though he has admitted that he was wrong in his conduct back then and that he missed huge red flags due to his own ego and abrasive personality.

However was he correct for showing just how vulnerable and idiotic half of the security was back then and may still be. I say yes he did the right thing by embarrasing naval commanders and admirals into some form of action to fix a glaring problem. he was the real world, and unfortunantly the security of the us military at the time wasn't up to the real world. I have no idea if it is or not now, but the sf operators I know are still pissed as hell about the intelligence or lack of it that they recieve. miss-drops in the middle of the ocean apprently aren't that much fun.

Now the SF group you are mentioning as the best. I admit that I have no clue about them and I do like to be knowledgable about randome things. (other than my awful spelling) So are they better than my favorite detachement grey sock, and could you tell me a little bit more about them and basically what they do?