Originally posted by cavscout
There are prerequisites for being a scout that most of the Army cannot meet. That’s why we have cooks and infantry.
highly specialized training(HALO, HAHO, Scuba, CQB, Sniper, Language training, Intel exploitation, explosives, medical, comms, foreign weapons
familiarity, mountaineering, advanced entry techniques, etc.....)
Actually, if you had read the link I provided you would have learned that we have MORE combat skill tasks than any other MOS, to include SF or
Rangers. Let’s go down your list.
BTW: Did you know that a 19 DELTA can call for fire at ANY RANK? Something NO other MOS can say. An E1 private scout can sneak behind enemy lines and
call for artillery fire on targets a mile away from him just by looking at a map and figuring out where to send the rounds. Why? because our training
allows us to not only perform the complicated task of directing Howitzer batteries but also, we have to be smart enough to know what kind of vehicles
we are calling fire on so we don’t blow up any friendly vehicles or civilians.
HALO: Nope, but neither do most SOF jobs, so what is your point there?
HAHO: Yes, there are many HAHO jumper scouts, again not something that is MOS specific.
CQB: Yep, required for scouts
Sniper: Yep, an option.
Language training: nope
Intel Exploitation: ABSULOUTLEY. We sneak behind enemy lines, gather intel, and exploit it.
Medical: YES. Most scouts are also combat lifesavers. After all, who is gonna save us 10 miles into enemy territory?
Explosives: Yep, taught in OSUT. To be specific, we are taught about C-4 (we get to play with it in USUT allot) claymores, land mine emplacement and
detection/removal, booby-trap emplacement/detection and removal, water charges, det cord, field expedient explosives... you get the idea.
COMMS: Yes, in fact unlike many MOSs we can actually use the little thingy that encrypts radios at ANY RANK. Actually, most of the coms stuff is
classified, and not just anyone can touch it. But scouts can.
Foreign weapons familiarity: Dude, are you for real? We gather intel, we kinda need to know what we are looking at. I would say that a scout more than
any person in the US military can identify foreign AND domestic weapons, planes, and ground vehicles (boats not so much.) probably one of the reasons
my squadron was tasked with teaching Iraqi Civil Defense Corp AIT. We taught them how to use their AKs and Makarovs.
Mountaineering: Not so much as Ranger, but then that is what they were created for, now isn’t it.
Advanced entry techniques: Like water charges on steel doors? sure, we did that. Oh, you mean rappelling? sure, all Army MOSs do that, if I am not
We also learn to drive and maintain a Hummer, a Bradley (baby tank) can operate an M1 tank, must master the m-16, M240B machine gun, 240C machine gun,
MK-19 auto grenade launcher, M-2 .50 cal., M203 grenade launcher, 25 mm bushmaster, AT-4 anti tank rocket, TOW wire guided missile (I think that is
all of them) all before leaving OSUT.
AND, that isn’t half of what we do.
Like I said, we can do more than ANY other MOS in the US military. Jack of all trades, master of none.
that an MOS that you can get in OSUT(combined Basic Training/AIT) is the most elite.
Again, it was obvious that I was joking about the
most elite part, however when you knock our OSUT, keep this in mind: my platoon in OSUT suffered a 48% attrition rate. That means that for one reason
or another, almost half of those who started with us couldn’t make it. And that includes two Marines, one of whom had been RECON in the Marines,
both of them only joining us half way through, after the hard part was done! They were amazed that they had to do more than 25 push ups for
punishment, I guess the MC don’t punish recruits like they used to. One of them busted a rotator cuff and the other went AWOL.
Your recruiter and Drill Sergeants were highly influential on your obviously impressionable views.
Maybe you should hang around a
while and get to know your way around ATS before go making statements like that about members that have been around for years. You don’t know me.
So E1 Cav scouts are SFARTAETC/SOTIC trained, know how to USE foreign weapons(and teach others how to as well), know how to use/make improvised demo
charges and other non standard explosives, SOF medical training(i.e. minor surgery, dentistry, veterinary, pharmacology, trauma, etc...- a little bit
more extensive than CLS), can use a wide variety of radios(satcom, UHF, VHF, HF, morse code), and establish commo shots over hundreds or more miles
with the ability to improvise antennas to account for varying wavelengths), cultural understanding of the target AO and the language ability to
communicate and establish rapport, entry techniques with or without demo charges(i.e. lock picking etc.. just in case you don't want someone to know
you've been there/or that you are there), advanced driving techniques(on racetracks learning defensive driving techniques and how to disable other
vehicles), intel saavy to know a little more than providing a SALUTE report(i.e. this is a new system, because it has a different configuration, has
this capability, etc..), and the ability to operate 150 or more miles behind enemy lines/the nearest friendly unit, or in other countries
I'm not saying that Cavscouts don't have their place, but they are an entirely conventional unit, and perhaps a very well trained one at what they
do. They provide tactical CCIRs to the manuever commander, but SOF provides Strategic intel.
If you're going after an HVT, WMD, hostage, etc.. I think a SOF unit might be the better choice than a bunch of Cavscouts though.