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Originally posted by Ghost01
That looks like an early prototype for the RC-135 SIGINT fleet! I think you found one of the earily developmental aircraft without all the antannas.
Originally posted by Now_Then
Erm no. That is a Nimrod Nimrod if that is a quip about the things falling out of the sky lately then poor taste.
Problem is that they were refitted to take on air to air re-fueling for the faulklands war, now 20+ years on air to air refuling is part of their every day job, they are fantistic aircraft. But they are being pushed to do something they were not designed to do, their sucess will be their demise - don't fix wot ain't broke. But it is overdue for retirement from it's current role. BBC link
Originally posted by edsinger
Originally posted by Now_Then
This one deserves a mention, WestPoint23
posted it on this thread
Don't know any more about it other then he (she?) said its authentic and did not crash.
WOW! What is the story? I know it didn't take off.....did it?
I have heard of a C130 taking off the deck of a carrier, anyone got that picture?
Originally posted by neformore
One large chunk of Soviet Cold War nastiness
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Which has a lovely comment attributed to it
"an outstanding failure which revealed an embarassing lack of understanding of the problems of high-speed flight."
Originally posted by waynos
This is what a Spitfire looks like after exceeding mach 0.9 - yes, it landed like this.
This strange hybrid VTOL conversion of a Fairey Delta 2 was apparently created for a movie, nothing else known, can you help?
In RAE trials during 1943-46 various fighters were dived at full power from 40,000ft in what the test pilots desctibed as 'an attempt to break the world air speed record vertically downwards'
As part of these trials, once the terminal velocity was reached the guns were fired, and I quote, 'to see if the wings came off'. Nice work if you can get it!
It is recorded that in these trials the highest mach number ever recorded on a piston engined aircraft in flight was obtained when Sqn Leader A Martindale, in 1946, dived Spitfire XI 'EN409' to a speed of mach 0.92. However the photo below shows both what that speed did to the Spitfire and what a skillful pilot Sqn Ldr Martindale was! The propeller was ripped clean off and the fron end looks like its been repeatedly bashed with a lump hammer. And yet it appears to have landed perfectly.
The account goes on to note that several other types were tested in this way, including the P-47 Thunderbolt and P-51 Mustang and none of them were able to reach the speed of the Spitfire because their high speed drag increased more rapidly. The major reason was in RJ Mitchells choice of a thin wing tapering to 9% thickness chord ratio, this was thinner than all other wings (even the P-51!) and against all aerodynamic advice of the time.
They alsdo found that NACA work oN laminar flow (NACA pioneered this work, not the RAE) was basically sound but that the promised advantages were not being obtained in practice. This was traced to surface roughness of the wing finish leading to skin friction which was cancelling out the benefits of laminar flow. This led to a change in the way the P-51 wing was manufactured and to the design of a laminar flow wing for the Spitfire, which led to the Spiteful.