**Official Bilderberg Rumours Thread**

Bilderberg cannot be able to hold these kind of meetings, the decisions they make really effect the public and the way people live.... Some on the left accuse the Bilderberg group of conspiring to impose capitalist domination, while some on the right have accused the group of conspiring to impose a world government and planned economy. They are an exclusive roster of globally influential figures that are basically a international network of conspiracists, the Bilderberg meetings are part of a "corporate-globalist scheme", and i am convinced powerful elites are moving the planet toward an oligarchic new world order surely.

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Isn't it rumoured to be at Virginia late May this year?

The book "Behold a Pale Horse" by William Cooper, claims that the Bilderberg group secretly elect the new pope through blood lines traced back to jesus

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"Official Bilderberg Rumours" sounds like an oxymoron to me! I doubt the Bilderbergers will meet in Istanbul or anywhere else for much longer as they'll use skype or video chat to meet in the future.

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I think we may find out their next operation, soon...

www.seek-jesus.com...

32 nights remaining....

Here's some research I was doing but currently my research is in other areas it all links in to the extraterrestrial subject but for now here's what I know so far.

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Bilderberg Introduction
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"Bilderberg takes its name from the hotel in Holland, where the first meeting took place in May 1954. That pioneering meeting grew out of the concern expressed by leading citizens on both sides of the Atlantic that Western Europe and North America were not working together as closely as they should on common problems of critical importance. It was felt that regular, off-the-record discussions would help create a better understanding of the complex forces and major trends affecting Western nations in the difficult post-war period" ([17]).

"Everybody who attends our meetings does so in his private capacity even if he is the leader of a government, a party, or an association, and thus he is not responsible to his supporters for anything he may say" ([18]).

"Advantage is also derived from the opportunities for informal conversation outside the conference room among participants, who spend three days living together in the same hotel away from the distractions of the city"([5]).

If these people do not want to be held accountable to the public for what they say then they should not be in the positions they hold, it is not right for discussions to be held away from the public about the public without public knowledge especially when nuclear war is being discussed.

Such things discussed at these meetings include but not restricted to propaganda and its use on the world public, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, political and strategic aspects of atomic energy, European unity, industrial aspects of atomic energy, Economic problems, East-West trade, political aspects of convertibility, expansion of international trade, Modern weapons and disarmament in relation to Western security, The impact of technological progress in armaments on strategy and diplomacy, Limitation of armaments and the effect of it on NATO, existing political and economic mechanisms within the Western Community, American U2 Spy plane flights over Russia, The destruction of Russia and China's relationship, ([4],[5],[6],[7],[8],[9],[10]).

A topic that comes up frequently in Bilderberg meetings is nuclear weapons and the use of said weapons against Russia and the East, this is one of the reasons these meetings should not be done out of public view as it effects the lives of everyone on the planet ([4],[5],[6]).(More Meetings being added daily)

In 1954, 1955, 1956, 1957, 1958, 1960 the press was not admitted and press statements are reproduced ([3],[4],[5],[6],[7]).

Bildererg meetings have taken place in Germany, Greece, Switzerland, France, Italy, Sweden, Spain, Turkey, America, Netherlands, Denmark([3],[4],[5],[6],[7],[8],[9],[10]).

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Bilderberg Propaganda and the world public 1954-present
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The use of propaganda on the public has been discussed at Bilderberg as far back as 1955, just under one year after the organization began ([4]). In the Bilderberg meeting report of 1955 it states "It had to be remembered that the Russians were spending a billion dollars at least on propaganda, and in fact spent more money in jamming" our propaganda programmes than the free world spends on its own propaganda"([4]). Bilderberg meeting report of 1955 also states "It was felt that most effective propaganda could be developed from the human experience of NATO which could be used to familiarize people with the kind of co-operation that NATO represented", so basically use NATO for propaganda purposes. "Possibly some parliamentary group might be conceived in connection with the NATO organization which could meet each year and serve as a means of education and propaganda for the NATO effort"([4]).

"Another speaker felt that the question was not so much one of propaganda but one of what NATO itself could do to inspire people and prepare them psychologically for the use of nuclear weapons should this become necessary for their defence"([4]).

In 1957 propaganda directed at the Polish and Hungarian public "As regards Poland, there was still much hesitation in the West about the desirability of granting economic aid. We still had no policy for dealing with another explosion on the Hungarian model. This hiatus in our policy gravely weakened our propaganda to these countries"([5]).

As well as Poland and Hungary propaganda was directed towards the Arab world "Several participants drew attention to the serious shortcomings of Western propaganda to the Arab world"([5]).

In 1958 propaganda was directed at the Russians and third world countries "Again, we should make a much greater effort to co-ordinate our propaganda, directed both at the Soviet orbit and to third countries"([6]).

In 1958 Bilderberg discussed the break up of relations between Russia and China, the meeting report states "the separation of Russia and China should be our principle target, as the combination of these two powers constituted for us the greatest danger"([6]).

Two of the common issues agreed on by attendees of Bildererg in 1958 were "progress in missiles and atomic weapons and much greater effort to diminish the risk of suicide inherent in our current defense strategy"([6]) and "common propaganda"([6]), not the well being of the people of the countries they represented.

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Bilderberg quotes
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"We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine, and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respect their promises of discretion for almost 40 years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supernatural sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination [read as 'democracy'] practiced in the past centuries"(Bilderberg Germany, 1991).

"The confidentiality enabled people to speak honestly without fear of repercussions"(Denis Healey).

"We shall have world government whether or not you like it, by conquest or consent"(James Warburg, 1950).

"We forbid individual attendees from giving press meetings at our conferences, and we do that not because we’re secrecy mad, but because we want to control the politicians who come” (Martin Taylor – Secretary General, Bilderberg).

"We are on the verge of a global transformation, all we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order"(David Rockefeller).

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Quotes about Bilderberg
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"There are powers at work in this country about which we have no knowledge"(H. M. Queen Elizabeth II).

"It's much smarter than conspiracy - this is moulding the way people think so that it seems like there's no alternative to what is happening” (Prof Andrew Kakabadse, 2011).

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Quotes from others in relation to a New World Order
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"National Socialism will use its own revolution for establishing a New World Order"(Adolf Hitler).

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The bigger Bilderberg picture
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By controlling the head of a company, you control everyone in the company. By controlling the head of a country, you control the country. By controlling the head of a bank, you own the bank. By owning the head of an energy company, you own everyone who works for the energy company. By controlling the head of Military, you own the military. By controlling the head of police or intelligence services, you control everyone who works in those departments. You control the head of media, you own everyone who works in the media establishment (you decide what people see and how it's presented to the public).

By making all countries have democracy you can then manipulate the masses, you don't have to manipulate everyone just a majority to get what you want. The people who do not come into line will not matter because a majority have been manipulated into making a choice so any decisions can be made based on the majorities decision.

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How extraterrestrial biological entities and extraterrestrial technology fits in
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By controlling the extraterrestrial information they control us, they keep us on this planet for their own selfish greed, power and control. By controlling the extraterrestrial technology they force us to use the planets natural resources and they can blame us for heating the planet so they can add more control. By controlling the extraterrestrial information they can keep an unnecessary political structure. By controlling the extraterrestrial information they can keep us on earth and control how many children we have telling us earth is over crowded and we need to control the population, by reducing numbers there are less people to fight against the system. For the people at the very top it becomes less about money because they have all the money, it becomes more about power and control. The money is for the materialistic puppets, money in reality means nothing, it is a piece of paper. We don't really need money it is a man made invention for control.

The US military and world elite say the public will panic if they knew the truth about extraterrestrials, it is propaganda so they can keep the information secret. The people will be more shocked about the lies and the amount of people that have died to keep their secret from the masses. Men have died in war when they did not have to, countries have been destroyed to carry out the New World Orders plans. All the wars you have seen did not have to happen, 911 did not have to happen, it is all part of the New World Orders plan to install fear so people depend on the government and will accept anything.

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[1] - en.wikipedia.org...
[2] - http://__._/wiki/Category:Bilderberg_Group
[3] - http://__._/wiki/Bilderberg_Group_Meets_In_Athens_Amid_Tight_Security
[4] - http://__._/wiki/Bilderberg_meeting_report_Garmisch-Patenkirchen,_1955
[5] - http://__._/wiki/Bilderberg_meeting_report_Fiuggi,_1957
[6] - http://__._/wiki/Bilderberg_meeting_report_Ye%C5%9Filk%C3%B6y,_1958
[7] - http://__._/wiki/Bilderberg_meeting_report_Buergenstock,_1960
[8] - http://__._/wiki/Bilderberg_meeting_report_Saltsj%C3%B6baden,_1962
[9] - http://__._/wiki/Bilderberg_meeting_report_Cannes,_1963
[10] - http://__._/wiki/Bilderberg_meeting_report_Aachen,_1980
[11] - en.wikipedia.org...
[12] - www.bilderbergmeetings.org...
[13] - conservativeamericanvet.wordpress.com...
[14] - www.infowars.com...
[15] - www.thegeorgiaguidestones.com...
[16] - www.wired.com...
[17] - www.bilderbergmeetings.org...
[18] - http://__._/wiki/Bilderberg_Group_History,_1956

Alex Jones Film Inside Bohemian Grove

Bilderberg members attend Bohemian Grove...child rape and murder...full story is available after the small section...a must read...

A quick rundown of some of the Royal Arch games played at Douglas Hurd's cottage, before we go via air to Bohemian Grove:

*Bestiality*

Fingers or fists in a variety of animals including: a fox and a donkey.

*Paedophilia*

Choking: almost turning blue

Handcuffs

Fingering of young boys

Providing 'treats' for young girls (ejaculate)

Drugging

Oral and anal sex

Including "record-breaking" attempts, some successful, that porn stars would not attempt. There is a young woman called Alyssa, who wore a T-shirt berating Giorgio Grandi, who attempted the same trick.

The trials and tribulations are based on the 1975 film, Salo, by Pierre Paolo Pasolini, which I was forced to watch.

Pierre Paolo eh? That would be the same name as a witness to the murder of MI-6 worker Gareth Williams. What would the Metropolitan Police of London make of that!? (Answer: they make nothing of it, having not spotted the link).

BOHEMIAN GROVE

We flew to America, with Thomas commenting that "you don't even need your passport, due to the relationship we have with their government".

Present were UK friends of Rothschild from both 'democratic' Parties: Cameron, Osborne, Mandelson, Blair, Miliband.

Two of the most memorable meetings I had was with Ariel Sharon and Barack Obama.

FULL STORY

www.henrymakow.com...
www.henrymakow.com...

I would give my left arm for some insider footage or recordings of what goes on in those meetings - I can only hope that one day an ATS member can infiltrate a meeting and get some juicy footage!

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There is a very insightful book which includes photos by Daniel Estulin. I even talked to the publisher to get permission to use direct quotes for a thread I did here on ATS. I highly recommend.

Here's the amazon link:

The True Story of the Bilderberg Group

So long as there are commonly accepted instances of conspiracy, things like Guy Fawkes, which no one in common doubts happened. There will always be validity for conspiracy.

Making a reasonable case for a claim has been the trouble. Too many go the lazy route of attaching a narrative that fits the physical observable story and fill in the gaps with presumption.

It is a slower and more disciplined route to only progress when one verifiable fact is attached to another. The acceptance of gaps is why the public dismisses most popularly supported theories.

And deriding everyone who ignores these claims as sheeple or zombies etc doesn't validate ourselves. We need to begin treating conspiracy theories precisely by its namesake. Theories that require intricate scientific discipline. And not be governed by impatient passion that leads to accusations that demand a presumption of knowledge others simply may not have or have acquired yet.

I have spent too much time and heard too many people make compelling arguments and indictments who failed to achieve a convincing argument because of its insistence on in verifiable information.

Moreover, I recognize the whole point of conspiracy is identifying that which has been deliberately concealed often with great pains and great resources. That is not good enough.The fault of all conspiracists if I may classify it as such is the approach.

Often we speak of heavily financed well resourced behemoths deploying nefarious machinations. We all collectively approach these great towers at its pinnacle.

Tactically speaking we must attack its at the very base, and begin the long and time consuming process of picking apart block for block.

To many times finite instances are wrapped up in large scale considerations as credence of the finite. This is the entire failure of most 9/11 claims. Compare this to the modern approach to JFK. Breaking it down in minutes, days, hours, months, letters, testimony, compare and contrast.

There are many looking at 9/11 now who are now patient and are only building a case in verified increments instead of saying the towers were demolished and then saying Bush. Now its and minute to minute narrative being built.

We must start from square one with all claims start at the incident in question and build as detailed a frame around it as possible without being sidetracked via going immediately to a supposed culprit.

I have always believed that Bildebergers where the 2nd tier Globalists go to get schooled by the masters. The real heart of the beast is The City of London (financial district)

Originally posted by max1215
I have always believed that Bildebergers where the 2nd tier Globalists go to get schooled by the masters. The real heart of the beast is The City of London (financial district)

The real heart of the beast is the Vatican.