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Originally posted by Andy Warhol
Sweft you are absolutley right about a hidden agenda to destroy christianity. Watch out the thread highjacker masons are now onto every new post you start.. You have some great ideas and they are well thought out. Keep it up.
Originally written by Leo Zagami
the Hebrew equivalent of our “w” is the letter “vav” or “waw”. The numerical value of vav is 6. So the English “www” transliterated into Hebrew is “vav vav vav”, which numerically is 666. And you can’t definitely have a business these days without a web site WWW
Originally posted by Roark
Well, I've been checking out Leo, and I stumbled across this:
Originally written by Leo Zagami
the Hebrew equivalent of our “w” is the letter “vav” or “waw”. The numerical value of vav is 6. So the English “www” transliterated into Hebrew is “vav vav vav”, which numerically is 666. And you can’t definitely have a business these days without a web site WWW
Sorry, but I can't take guys who find demons behind every bush seriously...
"David Icke, meet Leo Zagami. I'm sure you guys will get on just fine."
Originally posted by sweftl337
The point being that Cug has attempted to discredit Leo Zagami by attacking the credentials of Dr. Nicholaj Frisvold. It is my opinion that this attack on Leo Zagami’s credibility is both pathetic and typically a very distasteful habit of those on this forum who are here as agents. Yes, I will repeat this again – AGENTS!
You think Crowley was trying to distroy Christianity...
And my answer has to be..........
So what?
It seems like you would be perfectly happy if Christianity destroyed Thelema. Is that not a bit of a double standard?
40. Every Brother is expected to use all his influence with persons in a superior station of life (so called) to induce them to join the Order. Royal personages, ministers of State, high officials in the Diplomatic, Naval, Military, and Civil Services are particularly to be sought after, for it is intended ultimately that the temporal power of the State be brought into the Law, and led into freedom and prosperity by the application of its principles.
Source Liber 101 (any typos are mine)
After listening to some clips fro the jesusfamilytomb site (and reading some articles) I have a scenario that goes with what I posted here.
I see it now...All Jews do what Christians dream of...believing Jesus is the messiah!
(I hear rejoicing in the background...trumpets blowing)
But the trick is, Jewish leaders (certain #s among them, already did believe this and held it secret until now.)
CAVEAT: All Christians will then believe that Jesus is NOT God (if anything the virgin birth was a scientific genetic program by a group of higher beings/aliens/angels)
So with the Christians taking the view point of the Jews, that God is unknowable but through his attributes...and that Jesus is as human as you and I...then the 2 will merge.
Interesting what the site (jesusfamilytomb) said about the possibility of John being Jesus son. That they hid this so that the romans would not kill the heir to the lineage of David.
So this brings to light why some rabbis have cursed Jesus name only to secretly believe in him.
Impossible? No. look at the 'false messiah' in Judaism Shabtei Svei...'Im Islam in public but something else in private.
And Jacob Frank...'Im catholic outside but practice my Jewish Kabbalah secretly.
So its common practice in certain 'elite' circles to 'lie' in order to benefit what is seen as the good. Now if you are an evangelical Christian your mind will have a hard time grasping this. But I will tell you...leaders amongst you are NOT how they appear.
Take it for what it is...could it be some of these 'secret groups' helping to push out that which was 'hidden'
XIII�: Highpriest I (Daath). Works pure magic and gnosticism, explores the abstract worlds on the backside of the tree of life. myst. mas. degrees 90�-93�.
XIV�: Highpriest II (negative Tiphareth). Works homosexual-magic or abstract or symbolic logic that deals with backside of the tree of life. equvalent to the office of Bishop.
XV�: Patriarch-Grand Conservator (negative Yesod). Achieves the last steps of wisdom and unity. myst. mas. degrees 94�-97�.
XVI�: Hierophant-Grand Conservator (negative Yesod). Achieves greatest possible magical control.
Originally posted by Cug
Thanks sweftl337,
You have posted yet more proof that the group you are talking about is not the O.T.O.
The O.T.O. does not have any degrees higher than the XII
[edit on 3/10/2007 by Cug]
Originally posted by sweftl337
Most of the members of the OTO are kept dim for a reason.
Originally posted by In nothing we trust
Originally posted by sweftl337
Most of the members of the OTO are kept dim for a reason.
Want to take a crack at what the 322 means.
[edit on 10-3-2007 by In nothing we trust]
"Wer war der Thor, wer Weiser, Bettler oder Kaiser? Ob Arm, ob Reich, im Tode gleich."
"Who was the fool, who the wise man, beggar or king? Whether poor or rich, all's the same in the end"
And now today the Jewish people (as we may now refer to them) deserve at all costs to integrate back comfortably into our societies as our closest brothers. It was the Jewish people who paved the way into the INDIVIDUALITY of the soul that was needed before Christ’s coming. Thus the Jews are to receive something back from the world due to the gifts that they offered us long ago. The only way to do so is to support against anti-Jewish hatred but also to denounce Zionism at all costs! For the Jewish person is easily trapped in-between being forced into the hands of Zionism through anti-Jewish attacks and also through supporting the myth that Israel is a land given to the Jews! Hitler knew these deeper meanings. Hitler understood that the only way to prevent the Jews from carrying out their spiritual task was to force them into becoming atheists and also to force them into Israel.
Originally posted by sweftl337
Most of the members of the OTO are kept dim for a reason.
All members of OTOA are members of the OTO. But not all members of OTO are OTOA.
Those who are initiated into the Inner Sanctuary recieve the Charter and are thus Constituted to set up and build a Chapter of the OTO.
Originally posted by Cug
You think Crowley was trying to distroy Christianity...
And my answer has to be..........
So what?
It seems like you would be perfectly happy if Christianity destroyed Thelema. Is that not a bit of a double standard?