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Interview With An Alien

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posted on Mar, 5 2007 @ 05:31 PM
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Originally posted by IsaacKoi


Some of you may (like me) find it interesting to note how often this video crops up. One of the reasons that I've spent a bit of time over the last 2 or 3 years creating a a database of infamous UFO videos is because some videos (like this one) come up again and again and again and again and again...

There are in fact a fairly limited number of UFO videos that account for a significant number of the threads on ATS and account for a fairly high proportion of the most viewed UFO videos on Youtube.

Kind Regards,

Isaac Koi


VERY INTERESTING INDEED.
Perhaps this thread should be killed then?




posted on Mar, 5 2007 @ 05:39 PM
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Originally posted by kroms33Perhaps this thread should be killed then?


If the author of the thread is in agreement, I'll close this thread.

BUT...

Even though the issue comes up multiple times, I'm inclined to allow the topic to be re-examined if there has been no recent activity on another thread of the same topic.

The alien interview, as was mentioned by Isaac, is a topic which has huge interest and it doesn't hurt to go through it for newer members or visitors browsing ATS for the first time.

If there was second thread started within the last couple of weeks, then perhaps I'd close this and point out the previous recent thread for discussion.



posted on Mar, 5 2007 @ 05:47 PM
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Originally posted by SkyWay
[It's the wolf-pack instinct. One wolf starts howling and that sets off the others howling too.


It's nothing more than a lack of evidence. I will not take a simple video on faith. Sorry if that disturbs you.



posted on Mar, 5 2007 @ 06:11 PM
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it make me smile everytime when l read forum like this one , alien autopsy was to perfect to be real and this one is to dark to be real , even if every one of us would make a real video of alien you can be sure that half of us would say it's a fake and the other half would beleave it . l'm just like you all , l feel like it's real but l 'm just not sure enought to write a book about it. now the question is ... what kind of video , or what it need for a video to be a real one



posted on Mar, 5 2007 @ 06:13 PM
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Originally posted by Ex
But then I don't know how to prove to you that my dog
is sitting at my feet, a video?
My word??


I'm not asking for that, plus it's a lot more plausible



posted on Mar, 5 2007 @ 06:17 PM
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Originally posted by SkyWay

It's just amazing how so many people jump on the "it's a hoax" bandwagon!


It's the wolf-pack instinct. One wolf starts howling and that sets off the others howling too.




On ATS that is an understatement! Seems most folks on this board are here only to debunk, ridicule and cast doubt!

If there are any minor perceived glitches then cry HOAX and close the thread, rather than give credit to brave people that really deserve it Sometimes you just gotta wonder!


And please don't start accussing me of discrediting the ufo movement because of "obvious glitches" which I don't really see.

If some people would read/listen more instead of constantly talking/writing then they would know that the gray alien species is sensitive to bright light and this is probably the reason for the dullness!

And no Bob Lazar has not been debunked...Not by a long shot! In fact many whistleblowers have collaborated his story but I guess you would'nt know without doing some research.

Use google...It's your friend!



posted on Mar, 5 2007 @ 06:19 PM
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Originally posted by planetfor_rent
...now the question is ... what kind of video , or what it need for a video to be a real one


Something with some detail for starters. Something with a name attached to it. Something done for truth rather than profit.

Better yet, a body. A ship. Anything. Video has been compromised by technology. Nothing short of DNA or a new alloy is going to convince the masses, and for good reason.

You'll need hard evidence. Here's hoping you get it.



posted on Mar, 5 2007 @ 06:26 PM
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Didn't see where it was mentioned before but, did you look at the eyes? Tge eyes tell the story for me!. The eys actually flutter as he gasp for air!! Really if you didn't notice, watch again, not very puppet like the fluttering of eyes and sockets.



posted on Mar, 5 2007 @ 06:45 PM
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Originally posted by SocialistAgenda
This video has already been discussed in previous threads but I do not agree with the majority of the people that say this is a hoax! It could possibly be but then again anything can be a hoax; even our very life!

It's just amazing how so many people jump on the "it's a hoax" bandwagon! Why not have some faith in society


When you order a pizza, hot dog, hamburger do you start thinking ...oh this guy must be out to poison me...or perhaps the person that prepared the food didn't wash his hands after defacating!

Come on people...stop this "hoaxing" paranoia. From my personal experience most people are honest, good and dependable until proven otherwise!!!

At this point, most people can't see or understand reality until it smacks them in the forehead and the double standards associated with ufology is completly incomprehensible(at least on ATS)!

Have you people considered that perhaps some people want this footage leaked so we start believing more?!!! I am sure that not everyone in the government is obssesed with secrecy and the reason more don't come forward is because of fear of reprisal and yes even mind control in many instances!


Yet equally we get people on here who all too willingly believe these are real E.T's when there is no hard evidence to back it up. I more than anyone want to believe E.T's are here, I have an open mind and want it confirmed so to speak. However without anything to prove that belief is just wishful thinking, then I have nothing to go on. When dealing with anything, you need to be as rational as possible. You can't just take things on face value, you need to probe and question. The one thing of many that seperates man from the animal world is our ability to question and think for ourselves. Use that the best way you can. Doesn't mean you can't believe, just don't fall in blindly.

I find your pizza delivery metaphor strange; but then so is your 'everyone is pure and honest' approach


You mentioned "yes even mind control in many instances!"..just curious, can you corroborate and prove this?


Originally posted by SocialistAgenda
It's the wolf-pack instinct. One wolf starts howling and that sets off the others howling too.


No it's because we question and don't simply accept things at face value without it being proven beyond reasonable doubt. Anyway you can say the same for people who'll believe anything is real, whether it's obviously a fake or not.


Originally posted by SocialistAgenda
If some people would read/listen more instead of constantly talking/writing then they would know that the gray alien species is sensitive to bright light and this is probably the reason for the dullness!


It's not that we haven't listened or watched enough, just that we doubt what's being told. Yes it was explained that greys are adverse towards light. Then again this is a convenient excuse to have dim lighting on the video; i.e to hide potential details that would give away the video as a hoax. Who knows


Another thing, on the programme showing the footage. We have two guys; Jim Dilettoso & Robert Dean who describe the video as being hard to watch because of the treatment of the E.T. Even though it might not be real and it isn't that emotive. If real, should we exploit it for as much information as possible?

[edit on 5/3/07 by Flyboy211]



posted on Mar, 5 2007 @ 07:12 PM
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It's the wolf-pack instinct. One wolf starts howling and that sets off the others howling too.


No it's because we question and don't simply accept things at face value without it being proven beyond reasonable doubt.


There's a big difference between being skeptical and questioning things and just mindlessly blurting out HOAX! No explanation. No rationale. No idea why they are calling something a hoax except that it is what some others are saying. Besides, a skeptic reserves judgement, and seeks more information. Anyone who claims that something is a hoax or fake is not skeptical, nor questioning, for such a person has already decided, and is no longer questioning. Yet, such people give no reasons, much less proof, for their claim of a hoax. That is not skepticism...it's non-thinking herd instinct.



posted on Mar, 5 2007 @ 07:21 PM
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The vast majority of people here who are skeptical or think it's a hoax have given reasons. Such things as the bad lighting, its whole body is practically hidden and that it's possible to recreate the creature and its movements through animatronics and a puppet. Why are you so willing to believe without undeniable proof? The people who blindly say "it's real!" without any real evidence to back it up are just as bad as it just shows them to be closed minded and gullible.

Can you show me a post(s) where someone has said it's a hoax without giving a reason?

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[edit on 5/3/07 by masqua]



posted on Mar, 5 2007 @ 07:22 PM
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On ATS that is an understatement! Seems most folks on this board are here only to debunk, ridicule and cast doubt!


I don't see that most of the folks on this board are here to ridicule or cast doubt at all. I do see an epidemic of debunkers, yes - but that is what you get when you enter this field of research. In a scientific forum there will always be an A team and a B team - for objective study purposes.

I would like to believe the video is real, but as a researcher looking for the truth what should and shouldn't I filter out? If this video was so significant, and shed the truth - it never would have gotten out of Area 51 - EVER. I am not at liberty to discuss any part of what I know of military intelligence (no, I was never in the military), but I do know for a fact that information containing something that secretive would never be leaked. Whole neighborhoods and masses of people would parish and disappear before something with that level of secrecy was 'leaked.' Nasa on the other hand had many of their transmissions on open frequencies - which where largely monitored by the public. Since the 'leak' of UFO transmissions - they have gone to DOD encrypted channels. Perhaps bits and peaces of the puzzle are being leaked - I could agree to that, but nothing as significant as an actual Alien being interviewed.

The video is suspect because the audio has been removed (for "security purposes"), the video is dark (for the alien's comfort), and the EBE exhibits a behavior that could be easily mimicked through puppetry - yes, even the "eyes fluttering."

Better puppetry can be seen in the movie "Dark Crystal" - and that was made in the 80's. With the advent of computer graphics and other various special effects methods - this video could have been easily produced, simply by using a puppet.

again, I must reiterate that I do believe there to be an extra terrestrial presence on Earth - but videos that make money like this only stonewall true research. If VICTOR really wanted the truth to be known, he would have leaked the video some other way. Heck, go to a library and upload it to Youtube or something - mail it, make copies and mail it all over the world. They would never have been able to trace him.

It just smells sooo much of disinformation.
sorry.

Something that I DO find interesting is the KGB leaked films that have nearly been authenticated about the Russian UFO crash in 1969 which shows peoples faces, shows a crashed disk, and shows some kind of autopsy taking place.

Edit - Russain UFO Crash thought -

[edit on 3/5/2007 by kroms33]



posted on Mar, 5 2007 @ 07:23 PM
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You mentioned "yes even mind control in many instances!"..just curious, can you corroborate and prove this?


Does MK ULTRA ring any bells? Yes, the CIA openly acknowledged this project after declassifying it! You can find it on Wikipedia among other places.

No, I can't prove that it is still in existance(or even enhanced) because I don't have any hard evidence. The reason I don't have any hard evidence is because "mind control" under a different projet name would be classified and I don't have access to classified material.

This does not however prove that "mind control" does not exist...in fact I would be greatly suprised if it didn't given the lack of whistleblowing lately!




Another thing, on the programme showing the footage. We have two guys; Jim Dilettoso & Robert Dean who describe the video as being hard to watch because of the treatment of the E.T. Even though it might not be real and it isn't that emotive. If real, should we exploit it for as much information as possible?


What exactly do you mean by "exploit"?



posted on Mar, 5 2007 @ 07:27 PM
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Originally posted by SkyWay
There's a big difference between being skeptical and questioning things and just mindlessly blurting out HOAX! No explanation. No rationale. No idea why they are calling something a hoax except that it is what some others are saying. Besides, a skeptic reserves judgement, and seeks more information. Anyone who claims that something is a hoax or fake is not skeptical, nor questioning, for such a person has already decided, and is no longer questioning. Yet, such people give no reasons, much less proof, for their claim of a hoax. That is not skepticism...it's non-thinking herd instinct.


I used all the evidence I had before me: A poorly made video lacking in substance and sold for profit with no names or credentials attached to it.

My rationale, as I mentioned earlier, is the motive of this 'Victor' character, which is that of profit. That, and I suggested that the interrogators would have produced a better copy in order to analyze the session - a common practice in law enforcement for determining whether or not the individual questioned is telling the truth. I have some expertise in that department.

In my opinion it remains yet another hoax until proven otherwise. I wish it were different.



posted on Mar, 5 2007 @ 07:33 PM
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Originally posted by Flyboy211
Why are you so willing to believe without undeniable proof?


Please provide proof that I believe. Where did I say that I believe? That is a perfect example of unsubstantiated claims by some of you people who claim to be skeptics. You have neither evidence nor rationale for the claim.



posted on Mar, 5 2007 @ 07:44 PM
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Originally posted by befoiled
I used all the evidence I had before me: A poorly made video lacking in substance and sold for profit with no names or credentials attached to it.


Those are reasons to question but far from proof of a hoax. Sheesh! Is it that easy to convince yourself that something is a hoax. You should require as much proof that a video is a hoax as you do that it is real. Otherwise, you are applying a double-standard. Easy and loose to claim it a hoax but strict and demanding to find it genuine. The standards should be strict and demanding in BOTH cases.



posted on Mar, 5 2007 @ 07:59 PM
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Originally posted by SkyWay
Those are reasons to question but far from proof of a hoax. Sheesh! Is it that easy to convince yourself that something is a hoax. You should require as much proof that a video is a hoax as you do that it is real. Otherwise, you are applying a double-standard. Easy and loose to claim it a hoax but strict and demanding to find it genuine. The standards should be strict and demanding in BOTH cases.


The burden of proof falls upon those who produced and/or leaked the video and subsequently made the claim. I can't show you a dark, ambiguous film of a grey or reptilian and expect you to believe it is real. Technology has allowed filmmakers to do some incredible things. This particular film didn't even achieve B-movie status.

You can trust this, however: I want to believe. I really do. Not so much, however, that I will let scientific method and reality take a back seat to what I merely think is true.



posted on Mar, 5 2007 @ 08:08 PM
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Originally posted by befoiled
You can trust this, however: I want to believe. I really do. Not so much, however, that I will let scientific method and reality take a back seat to what I merely think is true.


That strict scientific method should be applied equally in both directions to decide if it is a hoax or genuine. You don't do that though. You make the claim that the video is a hoax without the kind of evidence to prove your claim that you demand from those that do not claim the video is a hoax. Don't you think you're being a little hypocritical?



posted on Mar, 5 2007 @ 08:14 PM
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I used all the evidence I had before me: A poorly made video lacking in substance and sold for profit with no names or credentials attached to it.

My rationale, as I mentioned earlier, is the motive of this 'Victor' character, which is that of profit. That, and I suggested that the interrogators would have produced a better copy in order to analyze the session - a common practice in law enforcement for determining whether or not the individual questioned is telling the truth. I have some expertise in that department.

In my opinion it remains yet another hoax until proven otherwise. I wish it were different.


Why do you think the quality of the video is poor? Is it because of the lack of lighting? I already discussed that... see my previous post!

How do you know the motives of Victor? Correct me if I am wrong but this video is freely available on the internet as I downloaded it myself!

If it wasn't free and he was to make some profit from it would that mean that he is non-credible? Sorry, but I fail to see the logic in this! Do you work for free? Is it wrong for Ufologists and researchers producing videos and/or writing books to make a living this way?



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posted on Mar, 5 2007 @ 08:18 PM
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Originally posted by SkyWay

Originally posted by befoiled
You can trust this, however: I want to believe. I really do. Not so much, however, that I will let scientific method and reality take a back seat to what I merely think is true.


That strict scientific method should be applied equally in both directions to decide if it is a hoax or genuine. You don't do that though. You make the claim that the video is a hoax without the kind of evidence to prove your claim that you demand from those that do not claim the video is a hoax. Don't you think you're being a little hypocritical?


this infamous alien video is definetly a fake without a doubt. Why has it been everywhere online for YEARS if real? Especially youtube and video google where vids get taken down notoriously.



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