posted on Mar, 28 2007 @ 12:11 AM
Does it have longrange guided shells for the deck gun? If so, how do they compare to our Excalibur effort?
Nearly a 1/4 of the hull is dedicated to a helipad but what good is a helicopter when it can't range far enough nor fast enough to provide sensor
coverage against high speed threats. Better to regain the enclosed hull volume and either stage a landbased asset like a Russian GHawk in support.
Or provide a superior jet-lift equivalent UCAV able to recover to the top of the superstructure with a conventional elevator-as-roof and no
forward-obstacles to a shakey approach. This is important because it offloads the emission requirements of the ship to a more mobile, wide-horizon,
airframe and thus lets you put SLS and terminal arrays into the sides of the hull rather than in multiple AEMS/mast combinations.
I see two slant clusters for presumably Kayak 'Harpoonsky' but nothing like a VLS. Assuming the helodeck is 100ft long, why is a 400ft long ship
not a missileer arsenal concept in an age of cheap missile weapons?
I don't like the notion of what looks like an uptake/stack lower than the rear of the forward deckhouse. Either exhaust underwater or get the damn
fumes clear of the upper works.
I see what looks like two ADG-630 mounts and what looks like a navalized version of the 2s6 but these are all terminal/inner zone defenders with very
limited coverage of the after hull areas. Why yield the outer air battle to /anyone/? Particularly given as most missiles are either offboard
guidance, ARH or IR capable after a strapdown midcourse, the need for complex fire control systems is basically down to a 3D Air Search when CEC is
not available. Add to this the typical 'scout/picket/presence' mission of these light ships, it makes no sense to argue light:heavy, AAW/ASW in a
platform that is both more exposed -and- less capable of self defense.
Dedicating so much of the foredeck to gunnery systems seems ridiculous. Nobody should be out on-deck in normal operations and internal volume seems
more critical to me than swoopy lines.
You have to be a fool to risk an attack boat (SSN) to inshore robotics and sensor grids in brown water where you cannot dive to exploit the
thermocline. Hence almost all submarine attacks are likely going to be roving mines or AShM or LAM driven from _well_ out to sea. Given the
thief-to-catch-thief principle, the lack of overall threat and the advances in remote operation, it makes no sense to install a huge bowdome on the
Of course it's impossible to know to what extent Smart Ship technologies have reduced the crewing requirements but particularly for Russia as a poor
super power and smaller countries to whom a 'frigate' might be of interest, showing me shape-not-function is kind've a waste of time.
The ideal frigate is probably a scaled Arsenal Ship whereby dedicated missile designs able to support a dense VLS/SLS loadout (for cost and
configuration) mean more than any by-tonnage-divided mission-hull classification. Configurationatally, it probably /looks like/ a cruise ship with
the bridge as far forward as you can safely get it and either no guns or guns buried in LO embrasure type 'extrudable' mountings. It has
independent RISTA capabilities inherent to its own airwing and a robust ability to operate same in any seastate with some margin for waveoff and
over-the-side safety margins (Skyhook perhaps). It probably has at least provisions for DEWS weapons. It probably operates on a crew of between 20
and 70 with 'mission module' capabilities for another 100 or so naval infantry or SOF. It is probably totally smooth, externally, so that it is
both easy to link up modular subassemblies and as volumetrically efficient as possible. Even if signature management is not intentional it is
probably more effective for all this. Optically, it has adaptive surface skins to counterilluminate areas vulnerable to centroid seekers and a fog of
war system to keep the hull as nominally athermal as possible. All's I see here is swooped up Krivak. Putting a new body makeover on an old concept
as much as chassis doesn't say much...