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posted on Mar, 2 2007 @ 05:52 PM
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This article below appeared on prisonplanet.com
The Alex Jones website claims that WTC bldg 7 as reported by the BBC collapsed at 21:54 (9:54) London time or 4:54PM EST NYC time, 26 minutes before the collapse. Alex has never heard of daylight savings time because it was reported by the BBC at 21:54 or 5:54PM EDT, 34 minutes after the collapse. Alex obviously doesn't realize that the 5 hr time difference during standard time is only a 4 hr time difference during daylight savings time, which is what NYC and the USA were on in Sept 11th, 2001. Too bad Alex never learned to tell time, but then disinformation agents are not supposed to tell the truth, are they! Maybe this will help people realize the disinformation Alex Jones has been spreading since 9/11 and all the $$$$ he has been taking people for. PT Barnum said it best, there's a sucker born every minute, and Alex has found plenty of them!



Time Stamp Confirms BBC Reported WTC 7 Collapse 26 Minutes In Advance
Debunkers' claims about blue screens, inconclusive time frame of Jane Standley footage eviscerated
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Wednesday, February 28, 2007
If there was any remaining doubt that the BBC reported the collapse of Building 7 over 20 minutes before it fell then it has now evaporated with the discovery of footage from the BBC's News 24 channel that shows the time stamp at 21:54 (4:54PM EST) when news of the Salomon Brothers Building is first broadcast, a full 26 minutes in advance of its collapse.


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Mod edit: quote source, and provide link.

[edit on 2-3-2007 by UM_Gazz]




posted on Mar, 2 2007 @ 06:47 PM
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time stamp is irrelevant.....it was LIVE ok? as in announcing the building being down when it was behind Standley.....time stamp is IRRELEVANT...and if logic doesnt do it for you, read BBC's response to this on their blog...they don't even mention the daylights saving crap...all they do try and hide behind saying that it was a stressful day and nobody remembers exactly what was said and that they "LOST" the footage". lol....it would be more believable for them to not respond at all than to respond with transparent crap.



posted on Mar, 2 2007 @ 07:01 PM
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Oh so you are omniscient! to know that something was live because they tell you it was live - my you have been well indoctrinated haven't you!

Unless you were there you don't know whether it was live or whether it was Memorex. You need to update yourself on what digital video is capable of doing and it was just as much as part of the scene then as it is now.




Originally posted by Or_Die_Trying
time stamp is irrelevant.....it was LIVE ok? as in announcing the building being down when it was behind Standley.....time stamp is IRRELEVANT...and if logic doesnt do it for you, read BBC's response to this on their blog...they don't even mention the daylights saving crap...all they do try and hide behind saying that it was a stressful day and nobody remembers exactly what was said and that they "LOST" the footage". lol....it would be more believable for them to not respond at all than to respond with transparent crap.



posted on Mar, 2 2007 @ 07:02 PM
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1. This has been done. Youre wrong.
2. The building is still in sight behind the reporter, regardless of timestamp.
3.CNN also clearly had it reported before it happened.
4. The "professionals" were out in their droves on here very soon after this BBC footage (and CNN) appeared on ATS and other sites.
5.Rumbled.



posted on Mar, 2 2007 @ 07:03 PM
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Originally posted by Petronius
Oh so you are omniscient! to know that something was live because they tell you it was live - my you have been well indoctrinated haven't you!

Unless you were there you don't know whether it was live or whether it was Memorex. You need to update yourself on what digital video is capable of doing and it was just as much as part of the scene then as it is now.




Originally posted by Or_Die_Trying
time stamp is irrelevant.....it was LIVE ok? as in announcing the building being down when it was behind Standley.....time stamp is IRRELEVANT...and if logic doesnt do it for you, read BBC's response to this on their blog...they don't even mention the daylights saving crap...all they do try and hide behind saying that it was a stressful day and nobody remembers exactly what was said and that they "LOST" the footage". lol....it would be more believable for them to not respond at all than to respond with transparent crap.


So you DONT believe what youre told when it suits?
Fascinating.......
Flip Flop.



posted on Mar, 2 2007 @ 08:12 PM
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No, I question everything, something you and the other sheeple obviously never do, and I am sure you always buy Alex Jones and the rest of the hoaxters hook, line and sinker!

Oh, the time stamp doesn't mean anything cuz, cuz it's all real and says so right here, and Alex Jones has to be real cuz he couldn't be a disinformation agent, cuz, I buy all his stuff and have his posters on my wall........grow up and get a life and realize that it's not just the government lying to you, it's their agents like Alex Jones that are lying to you and taking your money while they are doing it!



Originally posted by shindigger

Originally posted by Petronius
Oh so you are omniscient! to know that something was live because they tell you it was live - my you have been well indoctrinated haven't you!

Unless you were there you don't know whether it was live or whether it was Memorex. You need to update yourself on what digital video is capable of doing and it was just as much as part of the scene then as it is now.




Originally posted by Or_Die_Trying
time stamp is irrelevant.....it was LIVE ok? as in announcing the building being down when it was behind Standley.....time stamp is IRRELEVANT...and if logic doesnt do it for you, read BBC's response to this on their blog...they don't even mention the daylights saving crap...all they do try and hide behind saying that it was a stressful day and nobody remembers exactly what was said and that they "LOST" the footage". lol....it would be more believable for them to not respond at all than to respond with transparent crap.


So you DONT believe what youre told when it suits?
Fascinating.......
Flip Flop.



posted on Mar, 2 2007 @ 08:14 PM
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Regardless of time stamps, Explain why Jane Standley standing in front of the Salomon Building,(WTC7) had said it collapsed when anyone with eyes could see it hadn't. More of the media doing as it's told, yellow journalisms


www.prisonplanet.com...

and there is an ongoing thread about this here
BBC News Reports Building 7 collapse 23 Minutes before it collapses.





[edit on 2/3/2007 by Sauron]



posted on Mar, 2 2007 @ 08:32 PM
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Dude, london also has DAYLIGHT savings time...

There is ALWAYS a five hour difference between NYC and LONDON.

Speaking of disinformation.....



posted on Mar, 2 2007 @ 08:34 PM
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Originally posted by Petronius
This article below appeared on prisonplanet.com
The Alex Jones website claims that WTC bldg 7 as reported by the BBC collapsed at 21:54 (9:54) London time or 4:54PM EST NYC time, 26 minutes before the collapse. Alex has never heard of daylight savings time because it was reported by the BBC at 21:54 or 5:54PM EDT, 34 minutes after the collapse. Alex obviously doesn't realize that the 5 hr time difference during standard time is only a 4 hr time difference during daylight savings time, which is what NYC and the USA were on in Sept 11th, 2001. Too bad Alex never learned to tell time, but then disinformation agents are not supposed to tell the truth, are they! Maybe this will help people realize the disinformation Alex Jones has been spreading since 9/11 and all the $$$$ he has been taking people for. PT Barnum said it best, there's a sucker born every minute, and Alex has found plenty of them!



Time Stamp Confirms BBC Reported WTC 7 Collapse 26 Minutes In Advance
Debunkers' claims about blue screens, inconclusive time frame of Jane Standley footage eviscerated
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Wednesday, February 28, 2007
If there was any remaining doubt that the BBC reported the collapse of Building 7 over 20 minutes before it fell then it has now evaporated with the discovery of footage from the BBC's News 24 channel that shows the time stamp at 21:54 (4:54PM EST) when news of the Salomon Brothers Building is first broadcast, a full 26 minutes in advance of its collapse.


Source Link

Mod edit: quote source, and provide link.

[edit on 2-3-2007 by UM_Gazz]


Is it funny, how Alex Jones detractors are always new members?


All you do is re-inforce Alex's argument, go back and try another membership!





posted on Mar, 2 2007 @ 08:50 PM
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Petronius,

I see that according to your logic, AJ must have been after some ratings. You remind me of those debunkers that claimed the new anti-lobbist law was simply designed to prevent more than 500 people from trying to make a buck. Pitty they forgot about AIPAC and the others. Petronius you forgot about the other thousand or so mainstream news papers, letters, stations etc that all seemed NOT to be interested in running with this story and take any of the limelight.

Certainly you must wonder why they (mainstream) would all remain so silent and allow little AJ to merely pick up all the show biz. Are we all so foolish as to assume that all the mainstream pundits are all so damn honest that they just decided NOT to comment on this at all?



[edit on 2-3-2007 by sweftl337]



posted on Mar, 3 2007 @ 12:14 AM
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No offense, but what the heck are you talking about?

BBC reported the collapse of the WTC at 21:54 (4:54PM EST NYC time). That means it is 9:54 PM in London. Get your math and time reading skills right buddy!



posted on Mar, 3 2007 @ 12:24 AM
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LOL UK summer time is from March to October, same as the US within a few days...

UK last Sunday in March to Last Sunday in October.

US Second Sunday in March to first Sunday in November.

The time difference being 4 hours is only for a few days, and not in September...



posted on Mar, 3 2007 @ 12:33 AM
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Originally posted by Or_Die_Trying
time stamp is irrelevant.....it was LIVE ok? as in announcing the building being down when it was behind Standley.....time stamp is IRRELEVANT...and if logic doesnt do it for you, read BBC's response to this on their blog...they don't even mention the daylights saving crap...all they do try and hide behind saying that it was a stressful day and nobody remembers exactly what was said and that they "LOST" the footage". lol....it would be more believable for them to not respond at all than to respond with transparent crap.


Like i replied somewhere else as well (to emphasize this for new readers):

"Also another thing i want to say to the people trying to say the time is incorrect. Gues what: It DOES NOT MATTER what time it is, at the time they
were reporting LIVE ON TELEVISION that the building HAD ALREADY COLLAPSED while it was still standing in the background.

Saying "The time they say this video was made is incorrect" will not change the fact it was LIVE and the building was still STANDING for another 20mins...
Get it? Or do i need to elaborate this any further?"


[edit]
I see this guy just registered yesterday btw (Registered: 2-3-2007).. Go
figure lol, suddenly dozens of people registering because of this video trying
to discredit it LOL.

[edit on 3-3-2007 by zren]



posted on Mar, 3 2007 @ 02:20 AM
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If 9/11 was a conspiracy by the US government or parts of the US government to blow up the towers and kill its own citizens why on earth would they tell media organizations in advance that a building will collapse? Do you not think the media might find this slightly suspicious? I thought the whole point about a conspiracy was to keep it secret.
The only conspiracy on 9/11 was al qaeda flying planes into building. Ive always thought Alex Jones to be a right wing idiot who cannot stop shouting



posted on Mar, 3 2007 @ 02:48 AM
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Originally posted by mojoberg
If 9/11 was a conspiracy by the US government or parts of the US government to blow up the towers and kill its own citizens why on earth would they tell media organizations in advance that a building will collapse? Do you not think the media might find this slightly suspicious? I thought the whole point about a conspiracy was to keep it secret.
The only conspiracy on 9/11 was al qaeda flying planes into building. Ive always thought Alex Jones to be a right wing idiot who cannot stop shouting


Are you suggesting that Bin Laden told the BBC that the building would collapse before it actually did? If Bin Laden wanted to keep a secret then why would he tell them in advance?



posted on Mar, 3 2007 @ 03:05 AM
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Originally posted by mojoberg
If 9/11 was a conspiracy by the US government or parts of the US government to blow up the towers and kill its own citizens why on earth would they tell media organizations in advance that a building will collapse?

The word 'conspire' implies that more than one entity is involved. To pull this off, the mainstream news outlets would all need to be controlled. Considering the power that would give them, is it so hard to believe they would not obtain that control? The BBC was just doing its job, reading the script it had been provided with.


I thought the whole point about a conspiracy was to keep it secret.

Yup, that is why you are not aware of the fact that the media is being controlled. They try to keep it a secret.

The only conspiracy on 9/11 was al qaeda flying planes into building. Ive always thought Alex Jones to be a right wing idiot who cannot stop shouting

Alex Jones did not invent the BBC thing, why did the BBC give a very detailed report of tower 7 falling before it fell? The reporter was not standing in front of a picture screen, she was on location with the standing tower behind her. Go to Google Video and do a search for "BBC collapse", if you have not seen the video.



posted on Mar, 3 2007 @ 03:34 AM
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www.financialchat.com...

[16:58] Salomon Brothers building downtown manhattan has also collapsed! breaking news!
[16:58] bush should live up to words and execute the anti-terrorts plan.
[16:58] BBC tv saying Salomon bldg collapse
[16:58] dw the steel gets coated with a anti heat chemical but no way to fight that type of heat




posted on Mar, 3 2007 @ 05:01 AM
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Originally posted by Sauron
Regardless of time stamps, Explain why Jane Standley standing in front of the Salomon Building,(WTC7) had said it collapsed when anyone with eyes could see it hadn't. More of the media doing as it's told, yellow journalisms


www.prisonplanet.com...

and there is an ongoing thread about this here
BBC News Reports Building 7 collapse 23 Minutes before it collapses.


I try and stay away from 9/11 issues as much as possible, however I heard this was a highly watched video on youtube so I checked it out. I could'nt believe what I saw and heard.... It was almost like a script to a movie only they got the background scenery wrong. I don't care what anyone say's this was messed up, especially since I've read the BBC is trying to cover its tracks on this.
Something is very fishy here.


[edit on 2/3/2007 by Sauron]



posted on Mar, 3 2007 @ 05:27 AM
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I like the way that these debunkers run away with their tail between their legs once they've been proven wrong. I wait for the day when somebody actually holds their hands up and says "OK! Sorry! I messed up!", but this poor chap's ego obviously wouldn't allow for that.

"No, I question everything"

Fair enough, and so you should, but this board has already spent page after page answering and refuting the points that you've feebly tried to make. The time difference arguement is garbage since America is ALWAYS 5 hours behind us regardless of the time of year. You've come on here and presented facts to us which are just plain WRONG and then you have the cheek to call us 'sheeple led by disinformation'!!! Hilarious! I'd love to see this guy post again. Alas, I think we've seen the last of him. And for the record I don't buy into Alex Jones completely myself, I think he's as much a fearmongerer as the government itself; but this wasn't HIS story and it wasn't 'created' to earn him more money since he only reported on the same information we'd been digesting for a couple of days.

I'd suggest that you have some kind of personal agenda or vendetta, and it will not wash here my friend. Goodbye.



posted on Mar, 3 2007 @ 05:37 AM
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Originally posted by sp00n1
Dude, london also has DAYLIGHT savings time...

There is ALWAYS a five hour difference between NYC and LONDON.


Thanks Sp00n1, You said it so I didn't have to.

It don't trust this guy.

Brand new member comes in accusing Alex Jones of disinfo whilst using disinfo/misinfo to prove his point.


Get your facts straight before shooting your mouth off Petronius.



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