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Sanhedrin Revived - Sacrifice to take place

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posted on Mar, 2 2007 @ 07:40 AM
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Haaretz article

The Sanhedrin High Court, that was last seen 1600 years ago, has now been revived. They have purchased a herd of sheep and plan to have a major sacrifice at the Temple Mount on the eve of Passover this year.

Oh man ... I find this interesting from a biblical/prophecy TEOTWAWKI-coming type thing, not to mention that it will surely tick off the Muslims even more. Not that anyone should curb their own religious beliefs because it ticks off others .. but I do see this making Muslims nervous.

Anyways - for anyone who is interested ....
Haaretz article




posted on Mar, 2 2007 @ 07:50 AM
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i read in the article that this Sanhedrin planned to act out a
'symbolic' sacrifice ritual on the eve of this upcoming Passover.

am i reading this wrong or what? are they going to slaughter sheep,
and isn't there an international PETA to squash a blood bath ritual?

~wondering~



posted on Mar, 2 2007 @ 08:01 AM
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Originally posted by St Udio
i'symbolic' sacrifice ritual


this is what the article said - The present-day Sanhedrin Court decided Tuesday to purchase a herd of sheep for ritual sacrifice at the site of the Temple on the eve of Passover.

They are actually going to slaughter the sheep.

I don't pretend to understand the Jewish faith, but from the little that I do understand, the sheep are symbolic of something else ... sin? Dunno'. But the slaughter is to be real.

As far as animal rights laws in Israel go ... I have no idea.



posted on Mar, 2 2007 @ 10:01 AM
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dang,

i've heard that for the 'Priests' to do a sacrifice, it must be a Red Heifer
that is 'perfect', has no wild hairs, scars, blemishes...and only months old.

now, (i think that these PTB) are intentionally creating a confusion state
(or maybe its just me)
? the Jewish?Hebrew? Priests are the ones that perform sacrifices, right?

?so, what's this deal with the Sanhedrin, they're not Priests, they are Sages and Judges...concerned with oversight of following legal & religious precidents with contemporary issues in the Jewish community.

?next, any sacrifice ritual, with purified Priests (Mikavot),
can only be properly held on an Alter in the 'Temple',
so unless the Sanhedrin can build a 3rd 'Temple' before Passover,
there can be No Ritual...

i get lost in all these conditions to be met, according to the views of different authorities.

the bottom line; this ammounts to a Performance Art exercise/ Publicity event/ ? a spit-in-the-eye to the Muslims going to the Dome of the Rock
on the TempleMount...imho



posted on Mar, 2 2007 @ 10:21 AM
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Why would the sacrifice of sheep make Muslims nervous? Why would they even care other than the fact that the Jewish are doing the sacrifice?
I say this since Muslims have a holiday called Eid al-Adha which they would sacrifice an animal such as a sheep, a goat or a camel.
So the ritualistic sacrifice of a herd of sheep should not be a concern for the Muslims.
AS for PETA, well they may not like the idea of animal sacrifice, but they as well as many courts in the US have learned that animal sacrifice in the name of a religion is a "hands-off" scenario.
For information on the Eid al-Adha check out Eid al-Adha



posted on Mar, 2 2007 @ 10:28 AM
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Originally posted by kenshiro2012
Why would the sacrifice of sheep make Muslims nervous? Why would they even care other than the fact that the Jewish are doing the sacrifice?


You just answered your question ... because it would be the Jews doing the sacrifice on the Temple Mount. Also because it would be bringing back the Sanhedrin and because anything that raises the Jewish (or Christian) religion appears to radical Islam as an offensive move and thus the radical elements of Islam would take notice. With them taking notice that would most likely mean more terror attacks ....

... that kind of thing. IMHO



posted on Mar, 2 2007 @ 10:46 AM
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Couple of points to make.
From the source article

conditions on the Temple Mount permitting.
thus if there is too much political tension they probably will not go ahead with the ritual.
Second point is that although there are a few rabbis who are against Jewish entrance into the temple, the people in charge of the mount, the Waqf have an agreement with israel that requires the Waqf to permit entrance into the temple by both jewish as well as christians.
From Wiki

Management of the site A Muslim Waqf has managed the Temple Mount/Haram al-Sharif continuously since the Muslim reconquest of the Kingdom of Jerusalem. Since taking control of the area in the Six-Day War, Israel has permitted the Waqf to retain internal administration of the site. Under this arrangement Jews and Christians are permitted to visit the site. As a security measure to prevent Intifada-related riots from destroying the site, however, the Israeli government has agreed to enforce a ban on non-Muslim prayer on the site. Non-Muslims who are observed praying on the site are subject to expulsion by the police [39] On 7 June 1967, immediately after the fighting had died down in Jerusalem, the then Prime Minister, Levi Eshkol, convened the spiritual leaders of all the communities in Jerusalem and assured them that "no harm whatsoever shall come to the places sacred to all religions", and that contacts should be maintained in order to make certain that spiritual activities of the religious leaders in the Old City may continue. He also mentioned that upon his request the Minister of Religious Affairs had issued instructions according to which arrangements in connection with the Western Wall, Muslim Holy Places and Christian Holy Places should be determined by the Chief Rabbis of Israel, a council of Muslim clerics and a council of Christian clergy respectively. Together with the extension of Israeli jurisdiction and administration over east Jerusalem, the Knesset passed the Preservation of the Holy Places Law, 1967, [40] ensuring protection of the Holy Places against desecration, as well as freedom of access thereto.—Jerusalem–The Legal and Political Background Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Government of Israel [41] According to a posthumously-published interview with Haaretz, General Uzi Narkiss reported that on June 7, 1967, a few hours after East Jerusalem fell into Israeli hands, Rabbi Shlomo Goren had told him "Now is the time to put 100 kilograms of explosives into the Mosque of Omar so that we may rid ourselves of it once and for all." His request was denied; according to Goren's aide Menahem Hacohen, he had not suggested blowing up the mosque, but had merely stated that "if, during the course of the war a bomb had fallen on the mosque and it would have - you know - disappeared - that would have been a good thing." Later that year, in a speech to a military convention, he added: "Certainly we should have blown it up. It is a tragedy for generations that we did not do so. ... I myself would have gone up there and wiped it off the ground completely so that there was no trace that there was ever a Mosque of Omar there."[42] Shlomo Goren also entered the Dome of the Rock with a Torah book and the shofar. [43]



posted on Mar, 2 2007 @ 02:27 PM
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This is VERY interesting.

Is it true? Are they REALLY going to kill the sheep?

If so, this is HUGE!!!! The resuming of animal sacrifices is a MAJOR step in the prophesies that could affect ALL of our lives.

Keeping an eye on this one....



posted on Mar, 2 2007 @ 02:43 PM
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These guys aren't the Sannhedrin, they merely call themselves that.

There are rules about who is a preist, not a rabbi, but a priest, in judaism, and what rituals can be performed.


What these guys are doing is basically like unordained preists pretending to vote for a new pope while there is already one standing. They have no authority, the ritual they want to do is specifically shut down and forbiden, and they're trying to do it, in all places, at a muslim mosque, where 2,000 years ago there was a jewish building.



posted on Jul, 23 2015 @ 04:05 AM
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I decided to bump this thread because of the recent public personalities the Sanhedrin felt entitled to Judge.

First, the pope. For having the Vatican recognizing Palestine. Here are the English translations of the original Sanhedrin letter sent to the pope :



Because the Vatican recognized the organization known as the Palestinian Authority as a nation, and has begun to refer to it as a nation in its documents. His honor has named the head of said authority as an “Angel of Peace,” as was explained by a spokesman for the Vatican, that his intention was to encourage Abu Mazen to advance towards peace. These actions, to our great dismay, are consistent with a long series of actions and stances that are as in the days of the Roman Catholic Religion, that swore to persecute Israel because we refused to accept their Messiah as the Messiah of Israel, and to renounce our faith. The recent announcements and actions of the Vatican are a rebuke to the Jewish Nation and to the Bible, which you use to interpret the prophecies, as if God has abandoned his original Nation of Israel. Reality has proven the opposite to be true.

We require from you an apology for your recognizing as a nation those who stole the land, those who are known as the Palestinian Authority, and we are informing the Vatican that the sole God given right to the land of Israel is to the Nation of Israel. If His Honor the Pope, and the Vatican, do not apologize within two weeks of receiving this letter, and if he does not change his ways, we shall judge these actions in the Court of Mount Zion, in a court of 71 Jewish elders of Zion, and enact the prophecy of “The liberators will rise up upon Mount Zion, to judge the Mountain of Esau and the kingdom shall be God’s” (Obadiah 1:21). The court shall judge the Vatican in its presence or in absentia, and it is possible that the Vatican will be found guilty of anti-Semitism, as has been known to be done several times throughout history, and to place responsibility upon the Vatican for all of the outcomes of its actions.


Source : Politicsrecycled

Then, the US President. For the Iran deal.



Unfortunately, despite international experience in negotiating with totalitarian countries with aggressive imperialist aspirations and abilities throughout history, and especially in the 20th century, you have failed to prevent the agreement with destructive consequences that are inevitable for Israel, the Jewish people, all people of the region, to the United States, and to the West.

On the contrary, the evidence of progress in negotiations toward a desired and expected outcome increase every day. Empowering Iran to the level where it would constitute a complete and immediate threat would thrust the entire region into a state of instability including extreme weapons of mass destruction.
These actions range from criminal offenses to malicious intent and gross negligence.
Despite your claims and the contentions of the United States Secretary of State that the agreement is for the benefit of peace, the very negotiations with a country that for at least 30 years has declared that their aim is to destroy Israel and for that it needs nuclear weapons, as well as their expressed desire to attack ‘the Great Satan, USA’ are cause for concern to suspect that there is serious impairment to the reasonable discretion of any moral / responsible leader who refuses to negotiate with a country that declares their goal is to destroy a UN member state, or genocide of any kind.

The current agreement has released many of the leaders of incitement from responsibility for their words and action, and this with the full knowledge and consent of the United States and its allies.
To do this, you should have, as president of the United States, been cautious not to initiate or begin negotiations so long as the state of Iran does not declare that it has reconsidered and has no aggressive intentions towards Israel and other peoples of the region and its countries, and Iran’s conduct reflects the new policy and provides evidence of factual intentions of its peace, if it exists.

We would like to remind you that this threat to the State of Israel in a nuclear context began as a matter of policy upon the beginning of your term in office, as was made clear by the shocking announcement made by Rahm Emanuel: “Yitzhar for Bushehr”, which was in fact a direct threat to dismantle the settlements, even those that are completely legal, or we will not help to avert your annihilation.

In July 2009, you rebuked your Vice President, Joe Biden, who said Israel has the right to attack Iran, saying “In no way does Israel have a green light to attack Iran.”
So your move raises suspicion that it is deliberately promoting genocide for the Jewish people.

We remind you of the serious consequences of your Middle East policy from Libya to Egypt, from Iraq to Afghanistan, and especially your consent which allows the Assad regime its missile attacks using poison gas for at least two years, despite your agreement to dismantle of weapons of mass destruction. In practice, this has led to a humanitarian disaster in the entire region.

Since you signed this agreement, which gave you full legitimacy to start the process with Iran, hundreds of thousands of Arabs have been killed, this situation known as ‘Arab Spring’ has developed as a result of your forsaking Egypt, thus creating chaos in the Middle East and around the world in which weapons of mass destruction or their equivalent are provided by imperialist countries that support Iran or similar elements in different ways.

Therefore, you must immediately announce that you are repealing and suspending the agreement, its non-ratification, due to Iran’s proven capabilities for endangering all countries in the region.
You and your co-signers are expected to appear before the Court of Mount Zion on charges of administering wanton and destructive policies conducive to wars and hostilities and the growth of terrorist organizations, their lack of humanity is the result of lawlessness and weakness your foreign policy.
You, as the US president, may resign immediately and be sued personally, forced to pay compensation for the damage you caused towards all the victims of all peoples of the region in relative terms.

The trial against you, as the trial against all of Israel’s enemies, if you do not repeal this diplomatic agreement, will be held on Mount Zion, the fifth of Elul, 5775, [September 9, 2015] at 12:00 pm.
You can send a representative for your defense or your own lawyer, and the court shall not appoint a representative to represent the United States and your policy and you personally. These things apply to all partners signing the agreement with Iran.

Sincerely,
Dov Stein
Secretary of the Sanhedrin


Source : Breaking Israel News

Sanhedrin website



posted on Jul, 27 2015 @ 02:33 AM
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originally posted by: godservant
This is VERY interesting.

Is it true? Are they REALLY going to kill the sheep?

If so, this is HUGE!!!! The resuming of animal sacrifices is a MAJOR step in the prophesies that could affect ALL of our lives.

Keeping an eye on this one....


The Bible is actually in a quite contradictory position on animal sacrifices.

Moses started it, Isaiah condemned any form of it for whatever reason, And finally, Daniel said the 'antichrist' will stop the sacrifices.

Not to mention, Jesus warned us against the "yeast" of the Pharisees and guess what, Judaism is a direct descendant of Pharisee!
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posted on Jul, 27 2015 @ 05:06 AM
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a reply to: FlyersFan

A complete disrespect for Life.

Religious beliefs are ok. Religious practices to kill the innocent for no reason other than a belief, is not.
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posted on Jul, 27 2015 @ 05:17 AM
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The temple will never be rebuilt, and the sacrifices will never resume on a regular basis. All of that ended when Jesus died at Matthew 27:51 "At that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth shook and the rocks split."



posted on Jul, 27 2015 @ 09:04 AM
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a reply to: St Udio



i've heard that for the 'Priests' to do a sacrifice, it must be a Red Heifer that is 'perfect', has no wild hairs, scars, blemishes...and only months old.


there were different animals used for different sacrifices.




The common Israelite worshipper brought a male animal (a bull, lamb, goat, pigeon, or turtledove depending on the wealth of the worshipper) to the door of the tabernacle.


they also gave other things as a offering,



The Israelites offered meal (cereals) or vegetables in addition to the animals. Leviticus chapter 2 mentions 4 kinds of cereal offerings and gives cooking instructions for each. The sinner could offer dough from wheat flour baked in an oven, cooked on a griddle, fried in a pan, or roasted to make bread (as in the offering of the first fruits). All meal offerings were made with oil and salt and no honey and leaven were to be used (oil and salt preserved while honey and leaven would spoil). The worshipper was also to bring a portion of incense (frankincense).
The meal offerings were brought to one of the priests, who took it to the altar and cast a "memorial portion" on the fire and he did this also with the incense. The priest ate the remainder unless he was bringing the meal offering for himself where he would burn the whole thing.

both of the above come from. The Five Levitical Offerings

the red heifer is for purification of people that have touched a unclean thing. many believe that is what is being talked about in Daniel and other places in the bible.




In the Book of Daniel is a reference to a Red Heifer. In Daniel 12:10, God tells Daniel that in the last days, "many shall be purified and made white"; a reference to the purification ritual of the Red Heifer, "Though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow" (Isa 1:18, Num 19:6). The analogy appears to relate to a partner of the returning End Time messiah.
Red Heifer






?so, what's this deal with the Sanhedrin, they're not Priests, they are Sages and Judges...concerned with oversight of following legal & religious precidents with contemporary issues in the Jewish community.


as far as the Sanhedrin did indeed deal with temple matters. and one of the heads was the Chief priest, or have you forgotten about Caiaphas, the high priest. plus other members were former priests



The ancient Jewish court system was called the Sanhedrin. The Great Sanhedrin was the supreme religious body in the Land of Israel during the time of the Holy Temple. There were also smaller religious Sanhedrins in every town in the Land of Israel, as well as a civil political-democratic Sanhedrin. These Sanhedrins existed until the abolishment of the rabbinic patriarchate in about 425 C.E.



The Great Sanhedrin dealt with religious and ritualistic Temple matters, criminal matters appertaining to the secular court, proceedings in connection with the discovery of a corpse, trials of adulterous wives, tithes, preparation of Torah Scrolls for the king and the Temple, drawing up the calendar and the solving of difficulties relating to ritual law.


both above come from Ancient Jewish History: The Sanhedrin

although different sources disagree with the make up of the Sanhedrin, all that i have seen, all agree that the chief priest of the temple was one of the leaders, and that they decided on religious and ritualistic matters of the temple. plus the Sanhedrin had two distinct groups, Sadducees which was priestly party decendents of Levi,Arron,and Pharisees who were mostly Rabbis.


now this new Sanhedrin seems to be different, and yes your right they all seem to be Rabbis best i can tell.
but it is also possible to be a rabbi and a priest at the same time, and be able to make decisions that a priest would. if that's the case and some can trace their lineage back to Levi/ Arron, and they follow the old ways of the Sanhedrin then yes they can set the precedents for the new temple according to the law.




Rabbi
A rabbi is not a priest, neither in the Jewish sense of the term nor in the Christian sense of the term. In the Christian sense of the term, a priest is a person with special authority to perform certain sacred rituals. A rabbi, on the other hand, has no more authority to perform rituals than any other adult male member of the Jewish community. In the Jewish sense of the term, a priest (kohein) is a descendant of Aaron, charged with performing various rites in the Temple in connection with religious rituals and sacrifices. Although a kohein can be a rabbi, a rabbi is not required to be a kohein.
Rabbis, Priests, and Other Religious Functionaries









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posted on Jul, 27 2015 @ 09:49 AM
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The temple will never be rebuilt, and the sacrifices will never resume on a regular basis.


It shouldn't be continuing at all. It's heartless.

Their own scriptures say "No" to sacrificed animals:



"The multitude of your sacrifices-- what are they to me?" says the LORD. "I have more than enough of burnt offerings, of rams and the fat of fattened animals; I have no pleasure in the blood of bulls and lambs and goats." - Isaiah 1:11




"For thou desirest not sacrifice; else would I give it: thou delightest not in burnt offering." - Psalm 51:16




"For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings." - Hosea 6:6


God does not delight in blood sacrifices. It's pointless killing.

Even Jesus Christ says "no" to blood sacrifices:



"But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless." - Matthew 12:7


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posted on Jul, 27 2015 @ 10:00 AM
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a reply to: godservant

"If so, this is HUGE!!!! The resuming of animal sacrifices is a MAJOR step in the self fulfilling prophesies that could affect ALL of our lives."

Fixed it for ya!


Prophecies are nothing more than a blue print for social control.
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posted on Jul, 27 2015 @ 04:20 PM
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a reply to: FlyersFan

I recommend Dig

www.imdb.com...

Has it all, Red Heifer sacrifice, Essenes, Dome of The Rock. End Of Days.



posted on Jul, 27 2015 @ 04:29 PM
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a reply to: windword

My head hurts when I hear of attempts to rebuild the Third Temple and restart animal sacrifices, Armageddon.

en.wikipedia.org...


Obstacles[edit]
The most immediate and obvious obstacle to realization of these goals is the fact that two historic Islamic structures which are 13 centuries old, namely the Al Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock, are built on top of the Temple Mount. The Dome of the Rock is regarded as occupying the actual space where the Temple once stood, and Israel has undertaken to preserve access to these buildings as part of international obligations. Any efforts to damage or reduce access to these sites, or to build Jewish structures within, between, beneath, beside, cantilevered on top of, or instead of them, would lead to severe international conflicts, given the association of the Muslim world with these holy places. However, some 20th and 21st century scholars believe that the Dome of the Rock is not the actual location of the First and Second Temples, and that the Temples were actually located either just north of the Dome of the Rock, or about 200 meters south of it, with access to the Gihon fresh water spring, or perhaps between The Dome of the Rock and the Al Aqsa Mosque.[20][21][22][23]
In addition, most Jewish-Orthodox scholars reject any attempts to build the Temple before the coming of Messiah. This is because there are many doubts as to the exact location in which it is required to be built. For example, while measurements are given in cubits, there exists a controversy whether this unit of measurement equals approximately 1.5 feet (0.46 m) or 2 feet (0.61 m).[citation needed] Without exact knowledge of the size of a cubit, the altar could not be built. Indeed, the Talmud recounts that the building of the second Temple was only possible under the direct prophetic guidance of Haggai, Zechariah, and Malachi. Without valid prophetic revelation, it would be impossible to rebuild the Temple, even if the mosques no longer occupied its location.



posted on Jul, 27 2015 @ 04:35 PM
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There was actually a red heifer found in New Jersey, but she gave birth suddenly disqualifying herself.

The red heifer sacrifice would be needed to help sanctify the temple or something. However, this red cow has now been taken by the Temple Institute with the intention of using her to breed more red cattle to produce the needed heifer in Israel.

As for sacrifice being heartless, it's no more heartless than slaughtering an animal for food, and I believe that traditionally the meat was eaten.



posted on Jul, 27 2015 @ 04:44 PM
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As long as it's not a bacon sacrifice.
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