Papoose Lake- Setting the record straight!

Found this interesting regarding Dan Burisch.

ufowatchdog

The government is real good at erasing the past and fabricating one to totaly discredit Doctors and PHDs to keep their secrets buried forever.

If you think the PTB can erase someones past, please show me some evidence.

I could say I was a Navy SEAL, but it was secret. Where is my credibility ?
None.

Now, if I had pictures, or a DD-214, or orders, or an LES showing that I
belonged to a group, my credibility ( props, to the younger readers )
would rise.

Anyway,
Lex

sorry, there isn't a button for sarcasim. Bob Lazar and Dan Burisch both have similar backgrounds. ie they claim higher education, employment with the government and yet all visible evidence points to the contrary.

Originally posted by hacksaw
sorry, there isn't a button for sarcasim. Bob Lazar and Dan Burisch both have similar backgrounds. ie they claim higher education, employment with the government and yet all visible evidence points to the contrary.

And the final nail in the coffin could be found at unitednuclear.com.

Yes! Sign me up for one of his Hydrogen fuel system for my chevy. Or better yet; an Element 115 fuel system.

John,
Thanks for once again plugging your friends website/business.

This in no way proves his absence of schooling, or employment.

Do I want to believe Bob ? YES !! I WANT there to be an S-4.
I WANT there to be recovered craft.
I WANT there to be back-engineering (sp) going on !!

Do I see any proof ?
Sadly, no.

I truly enjoy hearing and reading Bob's stories. Without proof though..
they are just stories.

I'll admit, Bob seems quite an intelligent person. Maybe, in times to come,
he'll have more evidence.

Regards,
Lex

Originally posted by Lexion
Do I want to believe Bob ? YES !! I WANT there to be an S-4.
I WANT there to be recovered craft.
I WANT there to be back-engineering (sp) going on !!

Do I see any proof ?
Sadly, no.

Don't try too hard...you might get a headache!

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Originally posted by johnlear

Originally posted by Ghost01

Here you are, I leave you to answer these question. Maybe they will shead some light in this mystery!

Tim

As I mentioned in my U2U Tim, I felt your remarks were insulting and gratitious. So, as I explained in my U2U I will not be responding to any more of your questions or inquiries. Thanks anyway.

Okay, then I'll paraphrase Tim's questions for you instead. Will you answer then? Or will you not respond to me either? He made some very good points and your response could improve your credibility here at ATS.

Originally posted by BASSPLYR
Who's Dan? Would like to hear about his time spent out at S-4. Any links you can send me to or good threads?

BASSPLYR,

I'm not John, but I'll answer the question for you. Dan is a guy with a really odd story and about 3 or 4 different alises:

Dan Burisch
Dan Crain
Dan Catselas
Dr. Crain

These are his most known Alises, there are probably more, but I'm not sure. Here's some info in the guy:
Dan

Read the story and make up your own mind about Dan!

Tim

Originally posted by Ghost01
Here's some info in the guy:
Dan

This quote from the link is really ironic:

from here
"This is the biggest bull***t story I have ever heard in my life. Anybody that actually believes this guy should be ashamed of themselves. I never worked at Tonopah. I never met this knucklehead," said Bob Lazar.

Regards
yf

Originally posted by Lexion
Do I want to believe Bob ? YES !! I WANT there to be an S-4.
I WANT there to be recovered craft.
I WANT there to be back-engineering (sp) going on !!

Lex

Lex,

My friend, I understand where your coming from here. The univers would seem a little bigger if there was something else out there.

While it's not "Proof" of anything, maybe I can offer you a "Consollation Prize":

Remeber the Roswell Mystery from 1947? Something really did crash there that night. Where is the craft today? We don't know. However in the Northeast Corner of the Nevada Test Site, there is a Top Secret research facility at Groom Lake. Just because Papoose Lake doesn't have anythng, dosen't mean Area 51 doesn't. After all the base has people from the Foriegn Technology Division, the same division that supposedly claimed the material from Roswell!

Chew on that though and see if you don't feel a little better!

Tim

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Originally posted by Ghost01
Remeber the Roswell Mystery from 1947? Something really did crash there that night.

A "Project MOGUL" balloon train. Equipped with ML-307B/AP radar tracking targets with a nice shiny aluminum foil, fixed to a frame using tape with funny symbols on it.

Where is the craft today? We don't know.

What little remained was almost certainly thrown away after some time.

Regards
yf

P.S.: Yeah, I know. Blasphemy again. Stone me !

Originally posted by yfxxx

Originally posted by Ghost01
Remeber the Roswell Mystery from 1947? Something really did crash there that night.

A "Project MOGUL" balloon train. Equipped with ML-307B/AP radar tracking targets with a nice shiny aluminum foil, fixed to a frame using tape with funny symbols on it.

I'll sell you this bridge and throw in a pack of Lucky Strikes for free. Lucky Strike, they stimulate your T zones, that's T for taste, and T for throat. And don't forget that the Mogul ballon train was full of Mexicans. That explains why the paper reported bodies with the craft. Mexicans are small and speak a funny language, so they're naturally very easily confused with Martians, unlike the taller and more athletic negro. And remember, Lucky Strike stimulates your T zones. [/50s radio guy]

Okay, now that that's out of my system.
Dan Burisch stinks almost as much as Billy Meier. I checked out his case awhile back and nothing added up.

On the other hand, I'm still up in the air on the Lazar case. If Google Earth would adopt the high resolution photos it would help the firm skeptics cases. I just find it odd that GE would use a resolution 1/20th the quality for just the Papoose Lake area while most of the NTS is in the higher resolution. And, GE's high resolution is well above the resolution of the Testors photo. Then again, I'm sure if there were really something there then a high res photo would just have a big fat cloud obstructing the view anyway.

Smoke Luckys

Check out users.skynet.be... for all your S4 needs. There are plenty of good quality images and "stories" there!

Tim,
Thanks for the reply.
I've been to Rachel, Nv. and climbed Tikaboo. ( back when my legs allowed me to ).
I've viewed Groom, and had a grand vacation at the same time.
Do I think Groom has anything E.T., like I want S-4 to exist ?

YES !!! But, again, I've seen no proof.
Some very cool craft have started their flight careers at Groom, but without evidence, I'm forced to think it's all terrestial craft.

Lex

Originally posted by Lexion
Tim,
Thanks for the reply.

I've been to Rachel, Nv. and climbed Tikaboo. ( back when my legs allowed me to ).
I've viewed Groom, and had a grand vacation at the same time.
Do I think Groom has anything E.T., like I want S-4 to exist ?

YES !!! But, again, I've seen no proof.
Some very cool craft have started their flight careers at Groom, but without evidence, I'm forced to think it's all terrestial craft.

OH, Lucky You!

I was born in Las Vegas, but never had or will have that oppertunity. My CP would never let me get away with such a cool adventure. Could you imagine my trying to climb Tikaboo w/a cane?

It would be so cool to see some of the mystery planes that are hiding at Groom Lake. Do you at least have some cool pictures from you trip?

As you pointed out it would be so cool to believe in ET spacecraft from another world. I've been hoping that there would be proof of ET's since I was a young boy. Heck, I'm still dreaming of the day when the Pentagon will show us what's left of the craft they recovered from Roswell in 1947. I would love to find out what it was (ET or Otherwise). Sadly, that's usually when the reality check shows up, It's probably never going to happen. They are too obsessed with secracy for it's own sake!

The problem is that if you believe something for the sake of believeing it, you can't learn the truth. The only thing I can Prove is that Groom Lake is home to some amazing military technology. So, for now, I'll stand by that!

Tim

Originally posted by yfxxx
A "Project MOGUL" balloon train. Equipped with ML-307B/AP radar tracking targets with a nice shiny aluminum foil, fixed to a frame using tape with funny symbols on it.

This is the craft the eye witnesses describe. Dose it look like a balloon to you?

What little remained was almost certainly thrown away after some time.

In which dumster? Where do we find it? Are there any left over peices?

P.S.: Yeah, I know. Blasphemy again. Stone me

!

OH No you DON'T! You Don't get off that easy for pulling this stunt!

You're not getting stoned, I have something much more agonizing in mind:
You get to Defend your oppinion, while I pick apart you logic for everyone to see! So start defending!

Best Reguards,

Tim

Originally posted by Ghost01
You get to Defend your oppinion, while I pick apart you logic for everyone to see! So start defending!

Oh no, SIR! You read this one first. And then you tell me, which part of the analysis you don't understand.

And don't even think of selling me again a photoshop image based on some embellished description of third-, fourth- or nth-hand "witnesses"! Thank you so much!

Regards
yf

Yfxxx,
Tim said that was the craft they DESCRIBED, not a picture of the actual craft.

And, nice link. You selling books for Amazon, now ?

After 60 years, I still think the gov. is holding out on what actually happened at Roswell.
Alien ? Mogul ?
I honestly don't know, but I'd sure like to.

Lex

I like how the book linked has the already proven fake pic of the alien on it.

On another note with little less sarcasim. You could write up the little bit of text that proves your point or sumerize key points. If you cared about defending your post don't link a book and expect us to go out and buy it just on your so say. heck even a small scan. Anyways the info on this thread is awesome becaus eof peoples openess and I love the new information etc.

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