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reply posted on 1-3-2007 @ 01:44 PM by kleverone
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Originally posted by JbT
Yes, semantics for sure.... But at a site where people will use this for fuel to support their theorys of "Hollow earth" and such, I feel this needs
to be made light of.
Anyways, back to the story and info now that we know the facts, still interesting as is.
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I believe that here at ATS we presume that most people will actualy read the article before posting. We as individuals think for ourselvses and
therefore "make light" the issue ourselves. I understand what you are saying though.
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reply posted on 1-3-2007 @ 02:00 PM by menguard
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Wow,
This is a very interesting discovery. I will be happy to see where this will lead our scientists and geographers.I think they will find some
interesting stuff if they persist into the extraction of EArth Sciences.
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reply posted on 1-3-2007 @ 02:55 PM by centurion1211
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Hmmm. That gives me a fiendishly clever idea for taking care of any future "china problems" once and for all. We just start pumping the water out
for our own uses, and then china physically collapses like a souffle when the oven door is shut too hard. 
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reply posted on 1-3-2007 @ 03:15 PM by TheRanchMan
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Originally posted by Royal76
The "Crap People".. "Crap People".. "Crap People".. "Crap People".. "Crap People".. live man. Don't go down there or you will end up being
turned into one. They want to rise to the surface and take over the world.
Dont you watch South Park Man. Its where you go for the latest news, and events. 
Crap People? CRAP people?
It's CRAB people bud.
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reply posted on 1-3-2007 @ 04:10 PM by Majic
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Don't Be So Crabby
Originally posted by TheRanchMan
Crap People? CRAP people?
It's CRAB people bud. 
O RLY?!?
"Hooowwwwwdy ho!"
(Mods: Please forgive me. It's not my fault. Mr. Hanky made me do it!)
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reply posted on 1-3-2007 @ 05:00 PM by TiM3LoRd
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is there a link to this story????
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reply posted on 1-3-2007 @ 05:39 PM by Blaine91555
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The problem is clearly with the on-line magazine and not with the researchers. They even got the university name wrong. It is Washington University at
St. Louis. Not Washington State University. It is ranked equal to Cornell. The research is valid. I believe the correct term is aquifer. There is a
huge deep water aquifer under the Western United States, however it sounds like the source of water is different in this case and that is what the
article is really about. The fact that the water has come up from below due to percolation is what is unique I think. Much of the terminology has
changed since I attended school and it can be hard to keep up. Not to mention the current state of my old brain cells
To the Hollow Earth crowd - No joy here. Sorry. Interesting article though.
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reply posted on 1-3-2007 @ 06:58 PM by Selmer2
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image source: http://images.livescience.com/images/070228_beijing_anom_02.jpg
image source: http://www.livescience.com/images/generic_earth_layers_03.gif
Im thinking that perhaps Earth may have distinct hollow pockets but not as expansive as in the Hollow Eearth theory, just a speculation.
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reply posted on 1-3-2007 @ 07:16 PM by Blaine91555
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You should read the article. There is no ocean under the earth it was a comparison in size. It says not one word about hollow anything in it. The
article in the first link was titled badly by the magazine. Yes there are many caverns in the limestone layers but that has nothing to do with the
hollow earth stuff.
For those interested you should get a Geology 101 course book. They are very basic and easy to understand. Geology is a fascinating subject and you
will enjoy it much more if you have a basic understanding of it. There could well be a huge undiscovered cavern somewhere but the myth of a hollow
earth has no foundation in fact.
When I get a chance I'll post some photo's of some of my mineral and rock collection. I just need to unpack some boxes and set up a light box. I
have some great stuff. I need to get familiar with a new camera anyway and this would be a good subject.
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reply posted on 1-3-2007 @ 08:13 PM by Nygdan
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Originally posted by Blaine91555
The problem is clearly with the on-line magazine and not with the researchers. They even got the university name wrong. It is Washington University at
St. Louis. Not Washington State University. It is ranked equal to Cornell. The research is valid. I believe the correct term is aquifer. 
They're actualyl not even talking about an aquifer.
They're talking about subducted oceanic crust, rocks that have as part of their chemical forumla -OH groups.
When a peice of oceanic crust sinks, it is exposed to great pressures. Different minerals are stable at different pressures. When a certain pressure
threshold is crossed, the minerals start to break down and rearrange, forming new minerals. This causes them to release some ions, such as -OH
groups, or also the chemical water. That then induces similar changes in the rocks adjacent to it, causing the rocks to melt, it induces melting by
changing the stability of the minerals. This is why there are volcanic ranges above subducting oceanic crust.
That is actually showing subducting slabs of oceanic crust.
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reply posted on 1-3-2007 @ 08:28 PM by Charles Lee
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Originally posted by befoiled
Got it. Was a little too impatient I guess. Wonder what the hollow earthers make of this? 
Wonder what the flat earthers will make of this?
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reply posted on 1-3-2007 @ 08:40 PM by William One Sac
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This is really interesting. Although the title of the article is misleading. When I saw it I was like "WOW". Still pretty cool though. I wonder if
there is a way to extract the water from the rock? Maybe they will find something similar on the moon or Mars...
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reply posted on 1-3-2007 @ 08:57 PM by Selmer2
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Originally posted by Nygdan
That is actually showing subducting slabs of oceanic crust. 
Hey! Im selmer2
Yes. It is great to see the attenuation readings there show Australia is void of any potentially saturated rock, looks like we will be starting to
turn to our filtered excrement.
jk.
editt: cant spiell
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reply posted on 1-3-2007 @ 09:31 PM by kleverone
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Originally posted by William One Sac
This is really interesting. Although the title of the article is misleading. When I saw it I was like "WOW". Still pretty cool though. I wonder if
there is a way to extract the water from the rock? Maybe they will find something similar on the moon or Mars... 
I totally agree with you about the title, when I saw the article I was like "What?", I was even hesitant about using that as the headline but that
was the title of the article, so I thought I would just let livescience take the blame
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reply posted on 1-3-2007 @ 11:20 PM by cpdaman
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reply posted on 1-3-2007 @ 11:25 PM by cpdaman
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i wonder if there are any critters down there swimming in that watery region under asia
it is also intresting to look at the graph a few posts back in this tread and see that from a side view the ocean looks so minimal at a depth of 5-10
km's compared to the 5000 km or depth the earth goes that the first graph with the bright red colors under asia, makes you wonder about things.
since this water laden region is under asia is there any evidenence to what temperatures are in this region given the fact that there is water
present. would these temperatures be consistent with being able to support life?
an interesting tidbit for the global warming gang who warn of rising water levels
 When the planet was young, steam came from the deep interior to the surface as volcanic gas and eventually produced today's oceans. But as
Earth's interior ages and cools, it becomes easier for water to return below the surface.
also when the temperature goes from 50 below at the poles to 49 below how much ice melts
also when the temperature near the poles warms more snow falls as the air is able to hold more moisture i.e temp goes from 18 to 19 degrees and thus
can hold a more moisture leading to more snow and thus more ice forming. wake me up when the water raises 6 inches, otherwise don't tell me the coast
is in any danger any time soon
sorry back to thread
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reply posted on 2-3-2007 @ 05:10 AM by Grailkeeper
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Originally posted by cpdaman
i wonder if there are any critters down there swimming in that watery region under asia

I was thinking the same thing.
You need water to sustain life, seems feasible in this case that they would find sometime of life, albeit small, living within the water-logged
rock.
Is this something they will do tests for ?
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reply posted on 2-3-2007 @ 05:32 AM by Essan
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Life? How much life do we normally find in rock? Read Blaine and Nygdan's posts again
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reply posted on 2-3-2007 @ 06:21 AM by kleverone
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The title is mis-leading, but I don't think I should change the title because......well.....ya see, it's not that often that one of my threads gets
much attention. Heck, mostly my threads just sit there.  lonely...... scared......then *poof*... they disappear. I mean, look at my points 
But not this thread!  NO! This thread is thriving! Confident! Happy! Look at him  Our title looks too nice up in lights in those big bold
letters!
We're keeping ya title!
 We love ya!
I also want to point out that everyone should read the article before posting. It is not an ocean per se'. What is significant is the amount of
water that must be present to slow down the seismic waves to the degree in which it did.
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reply posted on 2-3-2007 @ 09:24 AM by Thain Esh Kelch
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Very interesting indeed! Hopefully it hasnt been poluted, because then it would prove to be an amazing place for new discoveries!
On the other hand, i certainly hope that this does not spark another wave of "reptilians living under the asian soil, I know where they get their
food!!" threads.. -.-
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