Thanks CNUT - its nice to be appreciated.
I have just been looking through the NKUK.org site - there is some very interesting stuff on there....In particular the speech made by Rabbi Y D Weiss
at the Iranian Holocaust conference with regard to the ransoming of the Hungarian jews. I have been giving Israel much thought lately for many
reasons and particularly their attitude that they can get away with murder.
I got to thinking about Eichmann. The crimes that he committed and his role in the holocaust is undisputed but Israel tried and hung him illegally
and got away with it. Yes he should have been captured and tried, no doubt in my mind there, but it should not have happened the way it did. he
should at the very least have been handed over to the Hague or similar. Instead he got the full kangeroo treatment.
So I'm reading the above mentioned article and find that it was Eichmann who was involved in the Hungarian negotiations - adding this information to
the Rabbi Weissmandl questions I'm beginning to smell a few rats.
In 1937 Eichmann attempted to arrange mass deportation to Israel. Was sent to Palestine to investigate (but refused entry). The idea was rejected at
that time because Germany was officially opposed to the formation of a Jewish state (which begs the question why send him????) and for economic
Then in 1943 we have the Hungarian negotiations. Where Eichmann was willing to ransom the Jews - the Zionist said only if they went to Palestine. I
understand that Germany at this time had a sympathetic pact with Palestine to prevent a 'Jewish State', I think the shah or pasha was actually
living in exile in Germany at that time. So Hitler said No. According to Weiss and Weissmandl the British were willing to disperse to their
colonies, but the Zionist said no, Palestine or nothing. 400,000 Hungarian jews were subsequently deported and murdered.
Whatever his ideology, it appears Eichmann worked closely with the Zionist while in the Office for Jewish Emmigration. There is even suggestion that
he was sympathetic to the Jews plight and studied the Torah.
Surely the Israeli government knew this and this further implies a failure of justice. Does this not constitute a conflict of interest - that the
Israelis were possibly trying to prevent full details of these negotiations coming out - I don't know, I'm simply opining - but I'm sure you get my
drift. I intend to look into it in greater detail, my interest being thoroughly piqued.
That Eichmann facilitated the deaths of many 100s of thousands of jews is without dispute, he was an excellent administrator who followed orders to
the letter - and yet it is claimed that he ignored Himmler's orders to halt transportations 1945. This doesn't make sense, a man who had to the
letter carried out his responsiblities, who had followed orders without question and accepted the reframing of his morals to those of his leaders,
suddenly in 1945 decides all Jews must die. Again this piques my interest, it doesn't fit.
I intend to look into this but I would be interested in your thoughts Golddragnet - and from anyone else who may have insight on this.
I recommend to anyone reading this thread to have a look at the links Golddragnet supplies as they offer some interesting perspectives on Israel,
Palestine and Iran, as well as to the holocaust debate.