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UP TO 38 people who may have been held in secret CIA prisons are missing, according to a human rights group.
A new report by Human Rights Watch (HRW) also details a terrorist suspect's allegations that he was held for over two years at a so-called "black site", where he was kept naked for six weeks and chained to the wall of his cell so tightly that he could not stand up.
Marwan Jabour alleged he was placed in painful stress positions that made it difficult to breathe and was threatened with being put in a suffocating "dog box" if he did not co-operate.
The US government has long condemned these abusive practices in its policy statements and annual human rights reports," Hare's Ghost Prisoner report said. "Its own use of them severely undermines its moral authority on human rights."
(from the Irish Examinier link)
US counterterrorism officials would not confirm the account, but said they say they still viewed Mr Jabour as one of al Qaida’s most dangerous members.
Originally posted by JacKatMtn
Before you complain about 38 suspected terrorists' whereabouts you should consider what is happening to these innocents in this region.
The 50-page report, "Ghost Prisoner: Two Years in Secret CIA Detention," contains a detailed description of a secret CIA prison from a Palestinian former detainee who was released from custody last year. Human Rights Watch has also sent a public letter to US President George W. Bush requesting information about the fate and whereabouts of the missing detainees.
"President Bush told us that the last 14 CIA prisoners were sent to Guantanamo, but there are many other prisoners ‘disappeared' by the CIA whose fate is still unknown," said Joanne Mariner, terrorism and counterterrorism director at Human Rights Watch. "The question is: what happened to these people and where are they now?"
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"The CIA program -- and the civilian leaders who created it -- have inflicted tremendous harm on the reputation, moral standing, and integrity of the United States," Mariner said. "It's time for President Bush to repudiate this program, and to take steps to repair the damage it has done."
at your instruction, to afflict pain on others
I believe the credibility of Marwan al-Jabour to be higher than that of a certain world-leader
Or the right-wing propaganda pamphlet of a dubious "religious" figure, known to have political as well as underworld ties, that you completely off-topic has to draw into this discussion.
This report is horrific reading, but I can only recommend it to anyone interested in the atrocities US government agencies are licensed to do on a scale which makes it a crime against humanity. And against the American people.
Originally posted by kenshiro2012
khunmoon,
at your instruction, to afflict pain on others
Or the right-wing propaganda pamphlet of a dubious "religious" figure, known to have political as well as underworld ties, that you completely off-topic has to draw into this discussion.
"religious" figure? who is that? I have reread my post and I do not see any "religious figure. One example I gave was another "innocent" who was "mistreated" by US forces, in this case the Border Patrol.
This is the same shoe that al-Jabour fits. He is "innocent" as well even though he admitted to being trained in Afghanistan.
This report is horrific reading, but I can only recommend it to anyone interested in the atrocities US government agencies are licensed to do on a scale which makes it a crime against humanity. And against the American people.
Agreed what was done to this gentleman by his Pakistani jailers is indeed horrific, but then again, it was done only by his fellow Pakistanis not by the US.
Their laws are not the same as they are in the US and most of the world. What was done by the Pakistani jailers may well indeed by "lawful" under their government.
American supervisors, who carry out a request of their government to interrogate the objects in question on suspicions than more often than not shows to be merely speculations. So you cannot claim them to be innocent. After all the whole set up is there on their order.
Well, the guy was Palestinian, but whatever the "fellow" Pakistanis did, they did it on US request.
quote: This is the same shoe that al-Jabour fits. He is "innocent" as well even though he admitted to being trained in Afghanistan. THAT's his crime. Ah.. I see ..!! One of the enemy.
Please provide proof as again this is not in al-Jabour's statements nor in the HRW's report.
Well, the guy was Palestinian, but whatever the "fellow" Pakistanis did, they did it on US request.
Oops, bad assumption there. The facility that al-Jabour was kept at was a Pakistani prison not a US facility.
EXACTLY! after all that's why US bother to put such installations there in the first place.