. a reader who was able to discern THE POINT of my OP.
If your 'point' wasn't clear to many members of this board then its probably because you didn't do a good job of representing it.
Originally posted by shooterbrody
I also see a double standard.
How is there a double standard? Its a different reaction from the people. When the muslim faith is publically attacked, they get aggitated and have
street protests. When teh christian faith is publically attacked, christians complain and even get their government representatives to publically
complain about it.
Thats not a double standard, thats a different reaction from different sets of people.
THe double standard would be when christians criticize muslims for reacting against what they perceive as attacks on their faith, and then when their
faith is attacked, they go ballistic. They're not throwing firebombs at embassies, sure, but then again, they're not a powerless and marginalized
minority either. If they were, they'd be doing the same.
I am really disgusted how easily my beliefs can be ridiculed here.
I am really disgusted at the lack of decency and respect of so many here.
Well, most religions are pretty silly on the surface. Muslims beleive some desert nomad with a 12 year old wife saw a floating ball of fire in a cave
and dicated a holy text to him. Jews beleive that they need to avoid ham and cheese sandwiches to get into heaven. Christians beleive that a jewish
zombie guy is going to fly them up to heaven. There's not much that can be done about that, faith is irrational, it supposed to be.
JEEZZZ bloody fanatics!!!!
"Oh jesus christ, I pray to you, save me from your followers!"
But they won't be rioting, killing people and destroying property....
And neither do well off and empowered muslims. Its the poor
that have the violent reactions, regardless of whether they're
christians or muslims. When the danes made those cartoons, it was the marginalized muslims that rioted, and mostly in their own countries. THere
weren't any muslim riots in America, and there are lots of muslims here. After 911, lots of dumb, low class american christians at the margins of
acceptable society lashed out violently at muslims, that clearly didn't mean that all americans were violent.
the Point here was not about the resurrection of Christ, but the "special Protection" that the Holocaust receives.( And I was Never aware that
CANADA, was a nazi state
It pretty clearly isn't. Canada IS part of the Dominion that was mercilessly bombed by the nazis and nearly destroyed by it. It's hardly suprising
that an element of modern Nazism, irrational holocaust denial propaganda, is illegal in Canada.
No state, anywhere, except ones in complete anarchy, have 'utterly free speech'. In the US, its illegal to call for the violent overthrow of the
government, or call for violent action against a people. Thats why the Communist Party USA was illegal. The euros and anglos are doing the same thing
even tho, the numbers do not match the records ( Germans are renown for book keeping
That is False. The documents support that 6 million jews were killed in the holocaust.
Ummm what evidence is there that 6 million died?
If you haven't seen the evidence, why are you assuming that it doesn't support the claim?
There are records of how many jews went into the some of the camps, and how many were left at the end. There are demographic records of how many jews
were in the various towns, and how many were left after the war, who hadn't moved or died outside of the camps. There are documents, both state
documents detailing the plan, and personal diaries written by camp operators, explaining the holocaust.
Could it have been 4 1/2 million?
No, it couldn't've been 4.5 million, because the evidence shows that it was 6 million.
That his second toe was longer than his first?
In Islamic communities there are no pictures of Mohammed because unlike Christians they don't shamelessly use their chief prophet as the
subject of every piece of art.
It has nothing to do with art, and I don't really see why faith inspiring art is a bad thing. The muslims don't do pictures of mohammed, or any
living thing for that matter, because their faith says that it is like creating an Idol, or that it will lead eventually to idolatry. That is why
muslim art is generally geometric. Does the fact that its religiously inspired make muslim geometric art thus less beautiful?
C'mon if your faith is so deep, I think you should be able to roll with the humanizing of your MESSIAH, not your G_D (I sure like that spelling), but
Jesus IS God in christianity. And it doesn't make sense to omit the 'o' in God when you're talking about someone elses' god, since its only done
out of a sign of peity for one's own god.
I believe (and somebody correct me if I am wrong) that even though your religion is mainly tied up in King James version of the New
The vast majority of christian churches don't actually even recognize the KJV as a 'dominant' version or anything like it. The KJV is popular
amoung some Protestants, but hardly all, and is not used by any of the various types of Catholics or Orthodox, Copts, etc.
SO, I have always been confused about the Deification of the son and the mom.
Mary is not deified in christianity. She is a saint, and is especially loved by many christians because she was the mother of jesus.
I know there's some kind of trinity thing and all, but what ever happened to put no God before me?
Why is it that an all powerful and omnipotent god, unbound by simple human reasoning, can't be Triune?
but truely I thought it was all about the message? Not the MAN... So what if he didn't turn water into wine or rise bodily into heaven, does
that negate the message in your view
If Jesus didn't die, get buried, and was resurrected, then he's just a man, and you can't acheive salvation through him. He's a good man, who
taught a pacifistic message. No ressurection, no christianity.
Just as the muslims have a 'statement of faith', things a person must minimally beleive in to be a muslim, (it is "there is no god but allah and
mohammed is his prophet"), the christians have a creed:
( of course, there are some groups, like the Unitarians, who reject Trinitarian Christianity, who are still considered christians, and others).
So, IF there is a physical body of jesus, that negates the ressurection, which was a bodily
resurrection. If the ressurection is negated, then
jesus is not the son of god, and faith in him does not 'save' people.
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