JFK: ABSOLUTE PROOF the fatal headshot came from the grassy knoll

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posted on Feb, 26 2007 @ 07:21 PM
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First off let me start by saying if you do not believe in such things like the basic laws of physics ie Newton's laws of motion then read no further. Now the Warren Commission clearly states that a single gun man AKA Lee Harvey Oswald shot and killed JFK from the 6th floor of the Texas School Book Depository. Now this first photo is of Dealey Plaza and the Texas School Book Depository basically showing you that Oswald would have had to shoot JKF from behind, which is a IMPORTANT FACT as you will soon discover.



Warning this next link does contain graphic violence

The Zapruder Flim

Now as you would have noticed the fatal head shot forces JFK back and to the left.
Now i know this bullet was magic but to the existent it defeats Newton's 3rd of motion:haha: ?



Third law: If two particles interact, the force exerted by the first particle on the second particle (called the action force) is equal in magnitude and opposite in direction to the force exerted by the second particle on the first particle (called the reaction force).


So if the Action force from the bullet travailing from behind hits JFK in the back of the head the reaction force would trust JFK head forward(opposite in direction to the force exerted by the bullet), but as you clearly seen in theZapruder Flim JFK is trusded back and to the left ?. Now if you change this equation slightly and and have the bullet coming front and to right it makes perfect sense, cause this is the opposite in direction to the force exerted by the bullet.

THIS IS ABSOLUTE PROOF the fatal bullet hitting JFK in the head came from the grassy knoll



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posted on Feb, 26 2007 @ 09:02 PM
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I am pretty sure this “fact” was covered extensively in the 1991 movie by Oliver Stone.

In fact, we now know who the shooter was that killed him - Look here

But good to see you are looking for the truth. Well done!



posted on Feb, 26 2007 @ 09:07 PM
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WatchNLearn: instead of trying to plug some site that sells DVD's about the subject, where we need to buy the DVD's to know who the shooter was, why don't you tell us straight up who your site claims to be the shooter?

And if its mentioned on your site, link to the page where its mentioned instead of making this attempt at free advertisement.

Just so you know, shameless self advertisement without explicit permission from ATS staff is against the ToS.



posted on Feb, 26 2007 @ 10:07 PM
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Originally posted by helium3

THIS IS ABSOLUTE PROOF the fatal bullet hitting JFK in the head came from the grassy knoll



Except you have not analyzed the Z-film correctly, nor do you know if there are frames missing.

For instance careful analysis shows that he went forward very slightly before going back and to the left. The shot from the rear may have come from the Dal-Tex building (the red brick on to the right in your jpg), and just a millisecond before a shot from the front from the stormdrain.

There's some evidence that the grassy knoll shooter missed. He was trying to time a shot not to hit JBK.

BTW, nice post, but you're about 10 years behind the current research. LOL.

[edit on 16-11-2007 by DontTreadOnMe]



posted on Feb, 26 2007 @ 11:57 PM
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Originally posted by Badge01
He was trying to time a shot not to hit JBK.


JBK ?

I guess being 10 years behind i have some more research to do.



posted on Feb, 27 2007 @ 09:38 AM
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Originally posted by helium3

Originally posted by Badge01
He was trying to time a shot not to hit JBK.


JBK ?

I guess being 10 years behind i have some more research to do.


Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy. :LOL:

It's hard to know what's correct but when you put everything together, the consensus is that the area was a 'kill zone' with three teams minimum. Some of the shots were supposedly taken as decoys to throw off observers with military training who might recognize gunshots. But the area was a big echo chamber making tracking location quite difficult.

They attempted to make a shot from the Dal-Tex building to make it conform with a TBD shot, but that may have missed. The clean up shooters were, of course, in front of the limo, affording them a target coming towards them.

One key thing that makes a TBD shooter unlikely is that no shot was taken as the motorcade approached the building. Some said that this shot was skipped to avoid a fusillade of return fire from the SS, but this is specious. The SS was in on it to some degree - they relaxed security and allowed the motorcycle escort to drop back behind the limo.

Read the essay I posted a link to by Bertrand Russell to see just how much obfuscation was going on wrt the details of the event back before people were able to see the Z-film, such as it is.



posted on Feb, 27 2007 @ 09:49 AM
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First off let me start by saying if you do not believe in such things like the basic laws of physics ie Newton's laws of motion then read no further.


If JFK's head was an uniformly dense inanimate object...then it would matter.

Considering you have to factor in the explosive exit wound, velocity of the bullet on entry, and physiological reaction to being shot...

Please don't wave around science when you actually have no calculations. It's like name dropping. It's sad and meaningless. If you have physical proof, then show it.

*physicist*



posted on Feb, 27 2007 @ 09:53 AM
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Originally posted by helium3
So if the Action force from the bullet travailing from behind hits JFK in the back of the head the reaction force would trust JFK head forward(opposite in direction to the force exerted by the bullet), but as you clearly seen in theZapruder Flim JFK is trusded back and to the left ?.


The exit wound is on the front.

It looks like he is hit, and them moves around a bunch for a moment, eventually settling backwards.



posted on Feb, 27 2007 @ 10:03 AM
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Originally posted by Nygdan
The exit wound is on the front.

It looks like he is hit, and them moves around a bunch for a moment, eventually settling backwards.


No, the exit wound is on the back of his head. Do some research and you'll see that his body was tampered with when in transit from dallas, that the people who originally examined him ALL said the exit was on the BACK of his head..

JFK is the easiest conspiracy to solve. Honestly, all you need is the video evidence of his head going back and to the left, and having seen the pathetic attempt to try and debunk it with the "magic bullet" theory, you can quite easily see that he was not assassinated by Oswald.



posted on Feb, 27 2007 @ 10:47 AM
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Originally posted by shrunkensimon

Originally posted by Nygdan
The exit wound is on the front.

It looks like he is hit, and them moves around a bunch for a moment, eventually settling backwards.


No, the exit wound is on the back of his head. Do some research and you'll see that his body was tampered with when in transit from dallas, that the people who originally examined him ALL said the exit was on the BACK of his head..

JFK is the easiest conspiracy to solve. Honestly, all you need is the video evidence of his head going back and to the left, and having seen the pathetic attempt to try and debunk it with the "magic bullet" theory, you can quite easily see that he was not assassinated by Oswald.


All the docs at Parkland describe a large wound in the back of the head.

Please, everyone, do some minimal research and annotate or link in your posts for assertions. Popping on and making a 'pronouncement' does this topic no good.

Though it appears to be a large wound in the front on the Z-film, I don't think it's clear what we're seeing. The 'splash and spray' which only occurs for one frame of the film, to me suggests evidence of tampering. The large 'blob' which I have done some 'false color analysis', though amateur, suggests it was painted on. Jackie would have been covered in red blood and even had bone fragments in her face if it had really exploded as it did in the Z-film. Yet, she had some blood on her skirt and that's about it.

At least use common sense.



posted on Feb, 27 2007 @ 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by shrunkensimon

Originally posted by Nygdan
The exit wound is on the front.

It looks like he is hit, and them moves around a bunch for a moment, eventually settling backwards.


No, the exit wound is on the back of his head.

Well the front of his head sure does seem to explode.

Like the old saying.

This is your brain on drugs.


And this is your brain on jackie onasis.



(jfk gif from www.jfkmurdersolved.com...)



posted on Feb, 27 2007 @ 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by Nygdan

Originally posted by shrunkensimon

Originally posted by Nygdan
The exit wound is on the front.

It looks like he is hit, and them moves around a bunch for a moment, eventually settling backwards.


No, the exit wound is on the back of his head.

Well the front of his head sure does seem to explode.

Like the old saying.

This is your brain on drugs.

And this is your brain on jackie onasis.

(jfk gif from www.jfkmurdersolved.com...)


You're nothing but a big Yolk!!


How many frames does that explosion take? What do you think about the reflective index of the 'blob' relative to the colors in the rest of z-313?



posted on Feb, 27 2007 @ 12:13 PM
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I think it flatly looks like he was shot from behind, spased out, and collapsed into the back of the seat.



posted on Feb, 27 2007 @ 12:26 PM
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Originally posted by Nygdan
I think it flatly looks like he was shot from behind, spased out, and collapsed into the back of the seat.


You're entitled to your opinion.

Shall we, then, make things on ATS be opinion-based or fact-based.

What is your area of expertise, if you don't mind my asking? (ATS subject matter expert)



posted on Feb, 27 2007 @ 03:13 PM
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Don't forget that Gerald Ford was the one who changed the position of the original wound on the Warren Report.



posted on Feb, 27 2007 @ 05:19 PM
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Originally posted by SouthernBelle82
Don't forget that Gerald Ford was the one who changed the position of the original wound on the Warren Report.


Good point.

Go here and read Bertrand Russell's 'Sixteen Questions' on the JFK thing:

karws.gso.uri.edu...

Pretty revealing all the messing around and misdirection going on in the early days.



posted on Feb, 27 2007 @ 11:16 PM
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Originally posted by thematrix
WatchNLearn: instead of trying to plug some site that sells DVD's about the subject, where we need to buy the DVD's to know who the shooter was, why don't you tell us straight up who your site claims to be the shooter?

And if its mentioned on your site, link to the page where its mentioned instead of making this attempt at free advertisement.

Just so you know, shameless self advertisement without explicit permission from ATS staff is against the ToS.


Dear thematrix,

For a start, I am NOT affiliated with that site in any way, shape or form.

Secondly, I do NOT like being accused of shameless self advertisement.

Your rude and ignorant comments are not welcome here.

If you bothered to do your own research (and yes, on that site) rather than waiting for other people to spoon feed you everything, you would have found out that the shooter is James E. Files! There is a whole page about it – maybe OPEN your eyes. But to make it even easier for you, here is the direct link:
THE CONFESSED ASSASSIN OF JOHN F. KENNEDY

Now, would you like to wipe your bot bot as well??



posted on Feb, 28 2007 @ 02:57 AM
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Originally posted by Nygdan
I think it flatly looks like he was shot from behind, spased out, and collapsed into the back of the seat.



What I see (the shot in question):
1st the head moves forward slightly when hit from behind, 2nd the bullet bursting out of his front, probably causing the head to snap back.

Nygdan has solved the mystery.


Might add:
The bullet shot from behind caused the head to burst open in the front.
Example: the apple.




posted on Feb, 28 2007 @ 08:02 AM
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Originally posted by XPhiles

Nygdan has solved the mystery.


Might add:
The bullet shot from behind caused the head to burst open in the front.
Example: the apple.


An apple, a small soft fruit, sitting on a table being impacted by a normal steel-jacketed or even lead bullet does not approximate a human head, which is attached to a neck and body.

Alvarez, an apologist for the WC, and Latimer's 'Jet effect' has been soundly debunked. The human head is not a melon on a pedestal.

/2sasgk

Read the explanation above, by a noted JFK researcher.

Though the 'jet effect' exists, wrt released balloons it does not apply here.

There's a mechanical ''problem'' in creating the ''jet effect''. It requires confined energy with a sharply vectored the exhaust out of a small hole. All the Dallas doctors and nurses describe a large wound in the back of the head, not a large wound in the front.

I'm quite surprised with the apparent low level of knowledge and lack of study of current assassination materials that exists on ATS.


[edit on 28-2-2007 by Badge01]



posted on Feb, 28 2007 @ 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by Badge01

An apple, a small soft fruit, sitting on a table being impacted by a normal steel-jacketed or even lead bullet does not approximate a human head, which is attached to a neck and body.


Alvarez, an apologist for the WC, and Latimer's 'Jet effect' has been soundly debunked. The human head is not a melon on a pedestal.


I'm just giving an example, his head explodes like that apple not saying his head is an apple or melon.



Originally posted by Badge01

Read the explanation above, by a noted JFK researcher.

Though the 'jet effect' exists, wrt released balloons it does not apply here.


I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to figure this one out, when you clearly have a video showing his head explode like that apple, and plus knowing Oswald is behind them with a gun.


Originally posted by Badge01

There's a mechanical ''problem'' in creating the ''jet effect''. It requires confined energy with a sharply vectored the exhaust out of a small hole. All the Dallas doctors and nurses describe a large wound in the back of the head, not a large wound in the front.


I'm not concerned about the "jet effect". Look at the skin of the apple, it explodes like JFK's skull. The apple skin is giving the example, let's call it the "apple effect."


From what I read, The Parkland doctors only saw JFK for about 20 minutes and where confused. If it was in fact 20 minutes, that's not long enough to confirm anything. Then there's the video that clearly shows a large wound in the front, you can't debunk the obvious unless your looking to make money selling a book or movie.


Originally posted by Badge01

I'm quite surprised with the apparent low level of knowledge and lack of study of current assassination materials that exists on ATS.


So everyone is at a lower level if we don't agree with you, sounds like you got a chip on your shoulder. Maybe you need to learn how to use ATS, you'd be surprised how much more knowledge is here.



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