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I saw a moving "star"!

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posted on Feb, 27 2007 @ 06:20 PM
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since the mods seems to like doing their job a little too much i'm going to sugar coat what i said earlier
"Have you considered that maybe what you saw moving across the sky wasnt a UFO, instead maybe it was the space station wich moves faster than any planet but slower than an airplane"




posted on Feb, 27 2007 @ 07:00 PM
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spacestations don't make random changes in direction. I've seen the space station too, and if he says the object changes directions than it ain't a spacestation. Also, those objects -satallites and spacestations flash intermitantly when the angle is right for us to see the sun glinting off of them. They don't remain illuminated from horizon to horizon like the stuff i've seen and they don't change direction either.

My above statements only apply if the object the guy saw did all the stuff I discussed in my earlier post and fits the chriteria I put forward.

Otherwise I'll have to agree with the other posters who have said that he could have been mistaken and that optical illusions or defults in basic human physiology. Perhaps satallites and maybe even the spacestation. It was moving fast after all. And if he did see what turns out to be a satallite than it probably was the spacestation.

However, he should be given the benefit of the doubt that he saw what he saw, and that he knows what he's looking at and it wasn't a satallite of some sort.

The stuff i saw was on a clear night in Los Angeles. Very high up in the atmosphere, but doing even more radical maneuvers than this thread's author's annomley. How am I going to see a satallite .ing from the pacific to edwards airforce base along known military flight lanes, in a city that amounts to 487 square miles of high intensity discharge sodium, magnesium, halyde and zenon lights. I'm not, infact I can't see anything other than stars past about 45,000 feet. Sometimes not even other commercial aircraft. It's like staring at the sky in the middle of times square and righting off an unidentafied flying object as a satallite.



posted on Feb, 27 2007 @ 08:36 PM
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Originally posted by Freezer

Originally posted by crowpruitt
The star I saw didn't "appear" to move it DID move in one direction until it I could no longer see it.I'm not saying it was a ufo,but I do know it was not a plane or a shooting star.


The space station can be seen by the naked eye as well. It looks exactly like a regular star in many instances. I can go outside with my 80mm binos and spot satellites any clear night. Their kinda cool to watch, and they move quickly.
Thanks for the info Freezer,that is definitely possible



posted on Feb, 27 2007 @ 08:58 PM
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The origin of these objects is definitely interesting. They could be satellites, airplanes, space junk, meteorites, planets or stars, or a combination mixed in with an optical illusion due to the Earth's atmosphere. Thanks go out to those members who have shared their eyewitness accounts with the rest of us. It is something we need to look into more deeply.
A nice astronomy website I use to figure out what folks might have seen on any given night from anywhere around the world is skytonight.com. They have a very nice interactive sky chart that lets you input your location or any other and it shows you the sky from that location. You can also specify the time and date which is very useful to look at the sky on a previous date. Great for investigating! Here are pictures of the sky chart:



Also, RoadGravel gave us an excellent link to www.Heavens-above.com... . They seem to have a lot of information about the skies. Not just about orbiting satellites, but astronomy in general. This is the main menu options at Heavens-above once I logged in: (click to view larger image)


I also would like to share I site I use. It is www.n2yo.com...
They too have a nice list of satellites. You can click on any satellite and track it and they use Google maps.
Here is a picture of the tracking page output:

Here is a picture of the satellites that are visible from my location in Texas once you register:


When it comes to satellites there are several types of orbits.
A geosynchronous orbit has the same orbit period as the Earth and is directly above the Earth's equator (0º latitude). It can be circular or ellipticel depending on its use. If a geosynchronous orbit is circular AND equatorial then it is also a geostationary orbit, and will maintain the same position relative to the Earth's surface and they appear motionless in the sky . Yes, there are more satellites over the equator, but the majority have a geosynchronous orbit.
Elliptical orbits are the interesting ones (to me) because they may at times seem to oscillate in the sky from the viewpoint of a person on the ground. I'm not saying that's what some folks here are seeing but it is a possibility. However, when speaking of the ISS and spy satellites, we start talking about sun-synchronous orbits.

Earth-centered orbits:
Geocentric orbit
1-Geosynchronous orbit
A-Geostationary orbit
B-Sun-synchronous orbit
C-Geostationary transfer orbit
2-Low Earth orbit
3-Medium Earth Orbit
4-Molniya orbit
5-Near equatorial orbit
6-Orbit of the Moon
7-Polar orbit
A-Polar sun synchronous orbit
8-Tundra orbit
Other orbits are:
Geostationary orbit (GSO): zero inclination geosynchronous orbit
Supersynchronous orbit - a disposal / storage orbit above GSO/GEO. Satellites will drift in a westerly direction.
Subsynchronous orbit - a drift orbit close to but below GSO/GEO. Used for satellites undergoing station changes in an eastern direction.
Graveyard orbit - a supersynchronous orbit where spacecraft are intentionally placed at the end of their operational life.

It just keeps going and going the further you dig. The more tools we share with each other the better informed we will be. By the way, does anyone know of a website that can track commercial flights here in the US?



posted on Feb, 27 2007 @ 09:09 PM
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What I saw was probably a satellite,because it did not change direction ,blink or fade.But to those who stated what they saw DID change direction and blink out all I can say is hmmmm.......



posted on Feb, 27 2007 @ 11:00 PM
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ok let me break it down for you

Originally posted by SocialistAgenda
Hello all. Yesterday, around 10:30 pm, I saw a very bright moving "star" high in the atmosphere. The sky was partly clear and some stars were visible. Initially, it was standing still but it caught my attention because of its brightness.

you mean like sirius or the space station?
]look at this link

After a few seconds it started moving left while pulsating

so it was twinkling like stars do at night because of the atmosphere


(or so it seemed) with orange lights. Then it stopped and turned back to approximately its original position. I watched it for a few minutes and then decided to go back inside my house. After half an hour or so I went back out and sure enough it was exactly were I left it!



perhaps it was a far away helicopter that was hovering over an accident they can stay up there for a while

there are some many things up in the sky that you can call a UFO just cuz u dont know what they are that it makes it hard for people that really see something deserving of that name i think we should call these things MMUO's (man made unknown objects) until we know it wasnt us that made it and can properly apply the UFO moniker to them



posted on Feb, 28 2007 @ 11:17 AM
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Razor1000,

I already said everything above. No it was not twinkling while moving rather it was blinking/strobing an orangish color much like any conventional aircraft. Again it only did this while moving! Before that it appeared as a motionless bright star.

I am not convinced it was an extra terrestial ufo. It could of been a modern spyplane or something similar. Perhaps even a spy satellite with boosters? Do some satellites have boosters to change their orbit profile?

In short it could be a lot of things but I just ruled out what I already know from past experience.



posted on Feb, 28 2007 @ 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by SocialistAgenda
Razor1000,

I already said everything above. No it was not twinkling while moving rather it was blinking/strobing an orangish color much like any conventional aircraft. Again it only did this while moving! Before that it appeared as a motionless bright star.

I am not convinced it was an extra terrestial ufo. It could of been a modern spyplane or something similar. Perhaps even a spy satellite with boosters? Do some satellites have boosters to change their orbit profile?

In short it could be a lot of things but I just ruled out what I already know from past experience.


Many satellites have their own propulsion systems, but their maneuvers are generally subtle. Even with a very powerful thruster you wouldn't observe a sudden change in direction. The velocity of a low earth bird is about 7.5 km/sec - you can't instantaneously shift a velocity vector that big.

When you see a satellite, its motion is smooth.



posted on Feb, 28 2007 @ 02:16 PM
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Originally posted by Soylent Green Is People


DJMessiah - If you're going to get a video, make sure in at least some parts of the video that we can see the object move in the same frame against some fixed point of reference


Good tip. I have three points at which I film at. One is at my driveway, where there is moderate trees in the view and every little light, the next is my school's parking lot with lots of light, but no trees, and lastly at my sister's driveway where there is little tree and light, and a clear open sky.



posted on Feb, 28 2007 @ 03:21 PM
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Here is another good tool for investigating our skies guys! Wow, that rhymed. I found a good website to track commercial flights. It is FlightAware.com. It is very nice. If you don't know the airport designator for any given airport look for it here: wikipedia.
Here is a picture of flights near my area at the time of post:


Compare that to O'Hare at the same time:


Too bad we can't track military flights. However, with my previous post and this one, we can track commercial airplanes, satellites, and stars & planets. Of course it still leaves a lot of other things out there that can't be tracked like local helicopters, crop dusters, and oh say UFOs. But it is a start.
For those of us that live in the middle of nowhere, it isn't always bad. No noise or light pollution. Great for stargazing! Have a great day all!



posted on Feb, 28 2007 @ 06:41 PM
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Originally posted by SocialistAgenda
Razor1000,

I already said everything above. No it was not twinkling while moving rather it was blinking/strobing an orangish color much like any conventional aircraft. Again it only did this while moving! Before that it appeared as a motionless bright star.

I am not convinced it was an extra terrestial ufo. It could of been a modern spyplane or something similar. Perhaps even a spy satellite with boosters? Do some satellites have boosters to change their orbit profile?

In short it could be a lot of things but I just ruled out what I already know from past experience.

can u draw what you saw and then scan it so we can get a better idea then make sure to have a backdropt so its not just some lines on paper



posted on Feb, 28 2007 @ 07:03 PM
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Originally posted by SocialistAgenda
Hello all. Yesterday, around 10:30 pm, I saw a very bright moving "star" high in the atmosphere. The sky was partly clear and some stars were visible. Initially, it was standing still but it caught my attention because of its brightness. After a few seconds it started moving left while pulsating(or so it seemed) with orange lights. Then it stopped and turned back to approximately its original position. I watched it for a few minutes and then decided to go back inside my house. After half an hour or so I went back out and sure enough it was exactly were I left it!

Optical illusion or ufo? What do you people think?

What type of moves? And curved moves? or just linear?
Was it fast or slow?



posted on Feb, 28 2007 @ 07:09 PM
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Originally posted by Snoogans

Originally posted by Freezer
Closest thing I saw resembling a anything usual, was a object I thought was a star. I know a bit about astronomy, so it wasn't any of the planets. It was the brightness of Jupiter, and was at the top of the sky (San Francisco). After observing it for a couple minutes, the light very slowly dimmed out. I was gonna go home and view it through my scope, but it dimmed to darkness. I asked other astronomers what it could've been, but I haven't heard an explanation.


Ah, finally!
This is very similar to a mysterious light that I saw. This looked for all the world like a regular star, except that it was in the wrong place (An extra star in the tail of the Big Dipper). After several seconds, while I was staring and trying to figure out what it could be, it just slowly faded away to darkness. At no point did it ever move, it just looked like it was "switched off"


Coool


I saw a very bright star going for perfect still to a very fast curve moves before vanishing near james bay, in 2001, during a fishing trip with my brothers and my wife.
My wife saw that too, and she freaked out



posted on Feb, 28 2007 @ 07:50 PM
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Originally posted by SocialistAgenda
Hello all. Yesterday, around 10:30 pm, I saw a very bright moving "star" high in the atmosphere. The sky was partly clear and some stars were visible. Initially, it was standing still but it caught my attention because of its brightness. After a few seconds it started moving left while pulsating(or so it seemed) with orange lights. Then it stopped and turned back to approximately its original position. I watched it for a few minutes and then decided to go back inside my house. After half an hour or so I went back out and sure enough it was exactly were I left it!

Optical illusion or ufo? What do you people think?


I saw something like that once, I was looking at the stars with my boyfriend trying to decide which constellation(sp?) was which and then we both witnessed a star which had been static for the past 5 minutes begin to move about 10 cm's across the sky... I also had a similar experience not far from when I saw the previous one, but this was much lower and lasted in the sky for much longer. (about 3 minutes)

I think the latter one could have been explained as a sattelite (they move quite slow dont they?)



posted on Mar, 1 2007 @ 10:45 AM
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can u draw what you saw and then scan it so we can get a better idea then make sure to have a backdropt so its not just some lines on paper


Sorry, I but I don't have a scanner. You will just have to take my word for it!



posted on Mar, 1 2007 @ 04:38 PM
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There is A LOT of moving stars in the night. But they are just satellites, i am pretty sure.



posted on Sep, 15 2007 @ 08:27 PM
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I've seen a star that was moving also.It was too slow to be a shooting star,and way to high to be a plane.It did not blink or pulse.I showed it to my wife and she didn't know what to think of it.


I wanted to share what I saw tonight.. Aswell as many other nights here in Florida.. When laying on my back looking into the sky, I notice a star and its moving. I know the differance between planes, and stars..
This was far to high to be a plane, and moving north and then to the south.
So it wasnt a shooting star..

However, I have seen these a few times, along with other people.

WE often ponder what they are up there... We can only say.. Hmmm I really dont know what it was.. But it looks like a star moving..



posted on Jul, 21 2010 @ 12:28 AM
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fri night. 2 "stars" moving across the sky side by side same speed. 1 brighter than the other. did not change direction. did not change 4mation. lost sight of the them after they had travled 100s of mi. in mins. another that night shone bright and then faded as if it had burn out. another later traveled across the sky fading as if gaining alt. slowly, leaving the atmosphere as it 2 traveld 100s of mi. in mins. wtf



posted on Jul, 21 2010 @ 12:44 AM
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I've seen these moving-stars for more than one occasion ..... my dad said it's very common to see them 2 or 3 times every week back then during Vietnam war (at that time people called them "walking-stars"). Personally I just like the rest of you guys dont really know what it is; I assume that it is a satellite.


[edit on 21-7-2010 by the_0bserver85]



posted on Jul, 21 2010 @ 09:06 AM
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To the OP: Nice thread and story, the moving star UFO's are definitely among the best. I saw a "star" once no brighter no dimmer than the majority of others, but it was moving round in large circles. I'd estimate a similar altitude to you, maybe further (50,000ft) and the circles must have covered a good mile or two, I'm not good at maths. This was at 6.30pm.

It had stopped making circles within a few minutes, it was like that was to "get my attention". After that is ascended and descended for 15 minutes in a regular pattern, not getting closer but perhaps ascending another 5,000ft and then coming back down and repeating. I got my mum to see if I was tripping out (she said she saw something moving but doesn't really believe in aliens and stuff so I didn't get much more than that). I was sober, just had dinner with my parents & had to . to work a shift an hour later.

I lost sight of it but had noticed a bright blue star to the West which had not been there any previous days, so tried to video it with not much luck as a massive towering cumulus cloud covered the area minutes later.

Now, the questions I've always wondered afterwards are if my mind was playing tricks on me or not. There are times when you can take a brief look up to the stars and they seem to be moving, but when you take a reference point (ie another star close) you realise no movement has occured, and it was just your brain/eyes adjusting.

When I look out through glass this can happen a lot, I can feel my mind distorting and "moving" stars sometimes, but I've come to conclude that the incident mentioned before was real.

So I say if it was a momentary observation (the movement lasted say 10 seconds and happened as you turned your . upward) then it's a high chance of your mind/eyes adjusting and not much else. If you saw movement for a good minute, you were probably granted the greatest show on Earth, and you went inside!!!!! -- there could have been more to come!

I'm almost certain your mind will only move a star for 15 seconds as it or your eyes adjust, and no more than that - unless you're intoxicated.

How long you see it move for?

As the others have said, these moving stars aren't un-common, and I'm talking the ones that don't just "float" over, the ones that follow incredible paths (circular, sharp angles) etc...

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