Originally posted by The Oak
and establish a secular state where jews, christians, and muslims will live in peace
It's already secular, before Israel existed it wasn't, and the closest place to secularism near Israel is Lebanon, and thats mostly due to western
I'm willing to bet that if the scenario you are describing went into place then well the secularism would go away completely, the Palestinians are
not westernized in general, they kill homosexuals, it's a death penalty there.
Israel and to a lesser extent Lebanon are the only places where homosexuality is not a crime in the middle east; the only one I can think of in the
region where it is not punishable by death is Kuwait, it's a ten year prison sentence if I recall.
And you know what, I don't care if the Muslims were there first, the area is better off now with a liberal government in place. Just read my previous
post, completely, okay?
In fact the one thing that does irritate me about Israel is that they seem to just nancy around randomly and not pushing with full force, little
treaties and bull and such, so yeah, if they actually went "THE PEOPLE AROUND US ARE BARBARIANS EXTERMINATE PURGE MWAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHA!!!" I'd be
like KEWL! How do they just let these ingrates who plagiarized their religion and spread it around in worse forms just walk around freely?
I'd sure be pissed, but to be honest, the majority of Jewish people, in my experience, are so overly tolerant and accepting of other religious
that it almost frustrates me. Mind you I'm speaking of the reform Jews that are all over the place here (Oh man how I love Jewish people
for actually having the guts to invent a reform version; now if only Christians and Muslims did it...).
It's like they had any direct hatred and toughness beaten and oppressed and murdered out of them through centuries of persecution, I find it almost
pathetic. And to be honest, neo-pagans too! They're afraid to say anything about another religion because they have enough people that hate them
already for paranoid reasons they don't want to actually DO SOMETHING that would make people hate them, even if it is merely vaguely justified! None
of them told me that, mind you, but that is really the impression a lot of them give me.
Look I'm generalizing...*sigh* I get the idea, you should too...
[edit on 12/13/2007 by Kacen]