Originally posted by THENEO
Well we have all heard about it, many of us have seen pics and it is truly a beauty. The new centre piece of the WTC ground zero redevelopment
Personally, I think the thing's ugly and off-balance... but that's just me.
But isn't there something fishy about this building?
Yes. It's ugly. And offbalance
I mean we all know that 911 was fishy to begin with right?
No. What's fishy is that some folks will believe some of the truly lame stuff going around about it.
So tell me this why are all these masons running this redevelopment?
Name six or ten of them, please, and prove (beyond a shadow of a doubt) that they're masons. Links to their lodges would be good.
Why a building 1776 feet tall (the year of formation of the US - the NWO by the freemasons)?
Because that's the birth year of the US. And this will be a symbol of the US. So you tie it in with symbolic US things if you're a good
Why so much glass and crystal (they even mention this world numerous times)?
Glass, actually. It "looks like crystal" but it's glass. They don't grow quartz crystals in sheets that big. And it's done just because every
OTHER modern skyscraper is skinned with glass. Has to do with weight and so they won't fall over in the first big wind and go BOOM!
In fact much of the project is made to resemble crystal (actually many such similar projects in other major masonic cities in the world in
recent years too such as Paris, Toronto as two I know of), does this have relation to Atlantis and their obsession with crystals and their
No, it has to do with the fact that 2 inches of glass weighs a lot less than 2 inches of steel-and-concrete. And 2 inches of glass is cheaper and
easier to install than 2 inches of steel-and-concrete.
What about the references to the statue of liberty
Because it's our national symbol. Because making the shape resemble an eagle would be Awful Darn Impossible at 1776-plus feet high.
Why link this building to the statue of liberty in design and story?
Because it's to be a symbol of the strength of the United States. Because the statue is one of the landmarks of New York City. If it was in DC,
they'd probably have done a pentagonal tower.
(sigh) Neo, you don't seem to "get" symbolism and how you develop it in art and architecture. When you're doing a building or project for a city,
you add structural and detail and symbolic elements that reflect that city. If they'd done it here in Dallas, the design elements would be far
different. No references to the Statue of Liberty because it's not a local Dallas landmark. It is, however, a local NYC landmark.
Why is the building referred to as a spiral (it does spiral and taper too like the famed tower at Babylon right?), and why only one tall
Yes, it spirals slightly (less than one full turn.) No, it's not like the famous Tower of Babylon (which was a zuggurat and had a winding staircase
structure and wasn't a full column with a twist.) And it's one tall building because that's what he submitted and the committee approved.
So tell me this, if you are with me this far, how long can the masons keep this obvious monument of theirs secret from the public, and what
message does it send to the rest of us?
It sends to the rest of you that you haven't suffered through courses on How To Design Monuments That City Councils Will Approve. Seriously.
And that you haven't actually gone into any strongly Masonic buildings; like the lodges. Sorry, old bean, but they prefer the more classic style
with heavy use of concrete ornamentation and "crystals" don't figure anywhere. That's new-age. The Masons are rather traditional and they seem
to be concrete-and-marble junkies.
[Edited on 24-12-2003 by Byrd]