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the english program most haunted

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posted on Feb, 25 2007 @ 04:00 PM
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i believe, at first, it was legit...but some elements of hoaxing are being carried out by some people, its obvious to tell the one's who are making things up.

but even the new parapyschologists is certain that some members are hoaxing stuff, their new medium does not trust certain team members aswell.

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posted on Feb, 25 2007 @ 04:17 PM
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My expert opinion of this this show, is that it is freaking' stupid!



posted on Feb, 25 2007 @ 04:33 PM
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Gets the ratings... Its not meant to be "serious" its entertainment.. or it would be on a different channel... Most Haunted is funny... some of the psychics are really psychics some of the things that happen might be real, might not be.. but it makes people watch. its a mix of reality and entertainment. but im still going on the fact that it makes people interesting in this kind of thing! thats the most important thing! makes them aware!? dont you agree?



posted on Feb, 25 2007 @ 04:38 PM
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I used to love MH, in the beggining I think there was a genuine intention to seriously explore locations and try to capture paranormal activity, unfortunately it was a victim of its own success and the pressure to get results has led to some very dodgy actions IMO. Nowdays I take it for what it is, a laugh.



posted on Feb, 25 2007 @ 04:51 PM
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I also WAS a big Fan first and nearly downloaded all episodes from the usenet
in 2005 until this happened
The "Mary loves Dick" thing,. watch here:
Derek Acorah Exposed (Youtube)

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posted on Feb, 25 2007 @ 05:01 PM
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I have yet to see anything even remotely convincing on "Most Haunted"... A door creaks and the girls go screaming down the hall. A dust bunny drifts through the frame and is replayed ten times, identified as "an orb." Somebody is "possessed" or "channels" a restless spirit, who invariably mutters "You don't belong here! Get out of my house!" Just not scary.

I think the "night vision" is waaay over-used — granted, it provides the glowing eyes, which is an eerier effect than anything else featured. Frankly, I don't know why the show is still on the air.

— Doc Velocity



posted on Feb, 25 2007 @ 05:14 PM
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The nightvision things where nearly always faked.
It was edited afterwards just look into the eyes of the "actors"
if it was realy dark their pupils ought to be big (acid style)
but in most cases they where normal sized.
By the way read this here about Derek Acorah an interview from Matt Roper from the british Mirror with parapsychologist Dr Ciaran O'Keeffe
who acted also in Most haunted as scientist but then finally exposed Derek Acorah of fraud.
Quote: Resident parapsychologist Dr Ciaran O'Keeffe has sensationally lifted the lid on the ghosthunting series, Most Haunted ... and claims that the public are being deceived by "showmanship and dramatics."

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Ciaran O'Keeffe Interview



posted on Feb, 25 2007 @ 05:39 PM
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yeah, i remember that interview.

he still does not trust the team.



posted on Feb, 25 2007 @ 05:54 PM
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who is watching it now?

they're justing hitting eachother and you can tell its scripted, you can see the reflection in the guys glasses.



posted on Feb, 25 2007 @ 05:56 PM
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Originally posted by kerrichin
o the one thing i dont like about this programme is when they do the live show they constantly try to encourage people to phone in and the cost is like 1.50 a minute so how much are they making on top of that all the merchandise and adverts.
so they are seriously making some dosh.

i dont trust the womans husband and his best friend because all the 'paranormal activity' always happens to them mainly.

the best thing is that derek acorah just recently got court lieing on the show and making things up thats why he left so what else is going on.



Very interesting. I didn't know that since I'm not in Britian and don't keep up with stuff over there unless it makes it to news over here. What did he lie about? I'll have to watch "Most Haunted" sometime and look for what you say about the husband and friend. What do you think about the skeptic people?



posted on Feb, 25 2007 @ 06:02 PM
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Originally posted by kerrichin
this an artcle on it


sorry tryed linking it but im useless so ill put the article on for you apoligies:

Most Hoaxed Live
by cj592 @ 2005-10-28 - 15:08:55
I watch most haunted, purely for the entertainment value, so I am not surprised with this article in todays paper

I remember the episode with Kreed Kafer and there was a lot of Hoo-haa over it on the internet, as the thing had been leaked before hand. A lot of web pages had to be shut down because it contained 'slanderous content' about the medium. But it is a surprise that the source is the resident parapsychologist Keiran O'Keefe.
Here is some of the stuff he did, as reported by the paper

He devised a plan to see if Derek was deliberately deceiving the public.
While on a shoot at Bodmin gaol he invented a long-dead South African jailer called Kreed Kafer - an anagram of Derek Faker.
"I wrote the name down and asked another member of the crew to mention it to Derek before filming.
"I honestly didn't think Derek would take the bait. But during the filming he actually got possessed by my fictional character!"
On the next shoot at Prideaux Place, Cornwall, Ciaran made up another fictional character, highwayman Rik Eedles - an anagram of Derek Lies. Sure enough, Derek made contact with the dead outlaw.
Ciaran says: "In my professional opinion we're not dealing with a genuine medium.
"When Derek is possessed he is doing it consciously - all we are seeing is showmanship and dramatics."
Ciaran went a step further at Craigievar Castle, near Aberdeen.
"I made up stories about Richard the Lionheart, a witch, and Richard's apparition appearing to walk through a wardrobe - the lion, the witch and the wardrobe!" True to form, Derek mentioned all Ciaran's stories - even though Richard I reigned 500 years BEFORE Craigievar Castle was built.

It makes interesting reading. I wonder how the crew will react to this (if at all) especially as tonight is the start of the next live show. Or is it just publicity to get viewers in?


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Interesting. The sad thing is he gives those of us who are real mediums bad names.



posted on Feb, 25 2007 @ 06:08 PM
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It's been poven faked many times there is a vid somewhere of Derek deliberatley breaking something too and Yvette pushing a glass etc, etc. I'm surprised no one has posted this yet though
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posted on Feb, 25 2007 @ 06:26 PM
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Originally posted by Wirral Bagpuss
Well now i had a good giggle at your posts. Best laugh i have had in a while !!!
Whilst i agree that Derek has obviously pulled a fast one on quite a few occasions i would not dismiss him completely. He does have a gift but for the purposes of making a living and so on he does overdo it and as pointed out has been caught out cheating. However i do beleive he does have a connection to the other side and can be in touch and sense the feelings of others around him. Why am i so sure? Well i met the guy once in a book promotion event. I had been on the phone to my Father and was terribly upset because we had argued a few days before and we had not spoken. Now it happens that my Father was not well at the time and i was dreadfully worried about not hearing from him. Anyhow i was having a cup of coffee in a cafe upstairs and my mobile rang and it was my Father. We spoke and then ended the call a few minutes later. I finished my coffee and went out onto the balcony and looked down below to watch Derek doing his book promotion thing. Well i was spooked when he looked up straight at me a few moments later. I was so surprised. Had he sensed something? And more to the point i was surprised because i often wonder if he saw something more. You see my Mother had died a year previously and obviously i was still very much greiving. In fact 5 years on and i still miss my Mother very much. Anyhow it made me think. Perhaps it was just coincidence or was it something more?? I will never know. But it spooked me !!



I wouldn't know. He could have just noticed you popped up where you were at and not noticed something. I have no idea. The interesting thing about him though is I can usually since pretty well when someone is lying etc. and it's a gift of mine and I've become quite good at it and it's never failed me before. I do get that feeling with Derek sometimes but it's not all the time. It's very strange.



posted on Feb, 25 2007 @ 06:31 PM
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Originally posted by Doc Velocity
I have yet to see anything even remotely convincing on "Most Haunted"... A door creaks and the girls go screaming down the hall. A dust bunny drifts through the frame and is replayed ten times, identified as "an orb." Somebody is "possessed" or "channels" a restless spirit, who invariably mutters "You don't belong here! Get out of my house!" Just not scary.

I think the "night vision" is waaay over-used — granted, it provides the glowing eyes, which is an eerier effect than anything else featured. Frankly, I don't know why the show is still on the air.

— Doc Velocity


I agree with you. The night vision ordeal is pretty much the whole show where as they're in the daylight at the beginning and end. I've seen plenty of orbs in my time involved in the spirit world and orbs are really bright colors and what they show is dust bunnies it looks like. I've seen orbs (with my actual eyes) in purple colors, gold/yellow, green, blue. A lot of really bright colors and they flash up like for a few seconds and it happens so fast you're not sure if it hapened at all. I've never experienced white orbs.



posted on Feb, 25 2007 @ 09:16 PM
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And just one more thing... As a kid, I used to accompany my mother to our church all during the week, where she offered her secretarial services for free — for years, she wrote the minister's sermons, single-handedly wrote and printed and mailed out the church's weekly bulletin, and handled the church's bookkeeping.

In the meantime, I would wander alone through this huge, empty, dark old church — investigating the long, dark hallways and classrooms, the kitchen and storage areas, the auditorium, the baptismal chamber and so forth. I was a little kid, mind you, and this was the freaking most eerie place you can imagine. Yes, a spiritual presence permeated the building and grounds, but some areas (certain classrooms, in particular) had an oppressive and ominous atmosphere. In those areas, yes, you could feel another presence, and it wasn't a loving & forgiving presence.

After years of taking these private childhood tours of the creepy old church, I developed a kind of paranormal courage that allowed me to march into even the most forbidding areas of the church grounds, in near total darkness, and in spite of whatever entities wanted me the hell out of there. I essentially became fearless in regard to the paranormal, and have remained so throughout my life.

Now, the reason for this yawn-inducing stroll down memory lane is to ask a simple question: Why are the so-called "paranormal investigators" — the Pros from Dover, as it were — so flinchingly frightened by creaks and bumps and groans in the dark? I was just a little kid who learned how to control my fear on my own by simply facing it; but these investigators who, I presume, have years of paranormal encounters under their belts, are still as nervous as a troop of Girls Scouts, all shrieking and squealing and scrambling away to safety at the drop of a hat.

I mean, their behavior doesn't instill me with confidence in their professed abilities. Or, more bluntly, I don't think most of these "experts" have ever even marginally encountered a paranormal event in their lives.

— Doc Velocity



posted on Feb, 25 2007 @ 09:46 PM
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I have been watching these kinds of aired show's for as long as I can remember, going all the way back to the days/nights of "Twilight Zone" and the "Night Stalker". I am not comparing these shows to the newly updated version's of paranormal study, but there is a definate 'Fine-Line' with what the "Most Haunted" crew produce's as an act of 'scripted' account's. Way too much talking and screaming for the liking. Yvette herself has so many 'spooks' she's afraid of , it makes it difficult to really stay embelished in the moment of possible contacts with a paranormal experience of any kind with her and her mates constantly screaming, jumping, and quivering from one crew member to the next. I still watch for the entertainment, just watch very openmindedly, to say the least.

As for the "Ghost Hunter's", they have alway's got thier prioreties together when it comes to the physical investigation's and they tell it how it is. Seem's there were a few post's pointing in this direction already for thier crew, but I will give my agreement for the same deduction's.
They have had so many good episode's, they by far out weigh the investigation's of "Most Haunted" series.IMHO....



posted on Feb, 25 2007 @ 10:23 PM
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Still, even Ghost Hunters is flawed, IMO. This program is like a local termite-control operation with night vision. I haven't seen anything in GH that would qualify as hard evidence of the paranormal. All I see is a crew of plumbers wearing custom-monogrammed blazers and ballcaps, displaying no particular sensitivity to ghostly vibes, and crashing through "haunted" sites like a bull in a china shop.

Then again, it IS on the Sci-Fi Channel.

— Doc Velocity



posted on Feb, 25 2007 @ 10:42 PM
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Originally posted by Doc Velocity
Still, even Ghost Hunters is flawed, IMO. This program is like a local termite-control operation with night vision. I haven't seen anything in GH that would qualify as hard evidence of the paranormal. All I see is a crew of plumbers wearing custom-monogrammed blazers and ballcaps, displaying no particular sensitivity to ghostly vibes, and crashing through "haunted" sites like a bull in a china shop.

Then again, it IS on the Sci-Fi Channel.

— Doc Velocity


Well, compared to MH, I would beg to differ from that opinion.
Some startling investigations GH:
"The Bird Cage" Tombstone Az.
That investigation that took place where Steven King wrote "The Shining" and all the paranormal video and EVP's they retracted from that investigation.
The civil war morgue where they caught an apparition with thermal's, even outlined his face, hat,ect.
Not to mention, when they didn't find anything to support the 'facts' for private home owner's they simply and bluntly told them.

Disclaimer from TAPS:

Among the best evidence we have of the paranormal are videos. After each case we spend hours scouring each tape for evidence. TAPS maintains strict confidentiality on all cases but when stunning evidence is captured,we do our best to work with the family to get it published for you to see.

Source:

www.the-atlantic-paranormal-society.com...

These videos are quite intriguing, Take a look Doc Velocity and give your opinion..
By the way, I am only defending my opinion for the sake of "Good Research" of the paranormal. As far as we all know, "What is real?" right?



posted on Feb, 25 2007 @ 10:51 PM
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Most Haunted feels like a Disney ride; harmless, a bit cheesy, and a good show to get your girlfriend to cuddle up with you a little closer.

Ghost Hunters, though needing a pinch of salt, at least is not the fluff I get from MH. No psychics blathering or mumbo jumbo, just some guys looking for ghosts and about ready to punch each. The Stanley Hotel with the little girl voice in the tunnel was uh...a bit unnerving.



posted on Feb, 25 2007 @ 11:50 PM
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Originally posted by Allred5923
These videos are quite intriguing, Take a look Doc Velocity and give your opinion..
By the way, I am only defending my opinion for the sake of "Good Research" of the paranormal. As far as we all know, "What is real?" right?


Well, I viewed everything TAPS had to offer, and I see nothing that is irrefutable evidence of the paranormal. I see wisps and shadows and puffs of vapor and doors and chairs and mirrors moving, et cetera. I can honestly say that I've seen it all before and I don't consider it paranormal in nature. What makes it even less convincing is that the videos are very, very one-sided and unrevealing.

I would be more inclined to accept such evidence if there were multiple videos of a single event — say, from three or more angles. Even better, I would prefer to see both video and film of a single event, shot simultaneously. Why? Because, as you may know, the process of video-taping is filled with peculiar electronic artifacts that do not appear in film.

Take, for example, the case of José Escamilla, the "discoverer" of the so-called "rods" phenomenon. When he first came out with his story and videos many years ago, I wrote to José and specifically asked him if he would try to shoot some footage of the "rods" using both video and film simultaneously. He wrote back, saying that film was "too slow" to capture the rods in flight. More recently, however, it was shown that the "rods" were videotape distortions of much more common entities — namely, flying insects. Flying insects are easily identifiable on film, but they are electronically elongated and distorted in videotape.

My point is that recording a paranormal event from one angle using a technology that is already known to produce defective images is NOT, in my humble opinion, convincing evidence. Bring in some high-speed, low-light film and shoot your footage with a videotape backup, at least, and then compare images afterwards. You know, redundant verification.

Let me tell you something, I live in a 91-year-old house that was built and lived in by a small-town doctor for 70 years. God only knows how many people were born and died in this house during that time, and there was even a murder in the backyard in 1922. Today, several doors in my house open and close by themselves, rockers start rocking out on the front porch by themselves, there are creaks and bangs and bumps and groans and all sorts of peculiar electrical anomalies.

How do I explain it? I live in a 91-year-old house. 'Nuff said. If you live in a very old house, you know there are lots of weird gravity effects, strange smells, and enough odd noises to fill a CD quite easily. For the longest time after I moved here, I swore that I could hear very faint opera music in the kitchen. As it turned out, it was an undersized, whistling water line leading to the refrigerator. I changed out the water line, no more opera.


So, whatever the question was, I need a lot of solid evidence before I break down and admit Okay, now THAT is paranormal.

— Doc Velocity



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