The SPP does not relinquish any sovereignty or diminish the United States' ability to protect our borders and enforce our laws.

Hmmm? ARE we protecting our borders and enforcing our laws??

...Learn something new every day.

Our borders are not protected. Might as well tear down all the fences down and let the Mexicans in. Their coming in anyway. The SPP is a joke. This NAU is expected by 2010. Thats not much time for Americans. I don't know even if people revolted I don't know if that will be enough. We can write and send petitions until we're blue in the face- our government cares nothing for us. If they did our freedoms will not be hindered and will have a better way of life.

Sorry if I'm a bit negitive.

Yes, there are issues with our borders that need to be addressed, however that's a far cry from just giving up.

Yes, illegal aliens are coming in at an astounding rate, and something needs to be done about it. It's up to all Americans to do something about it.

The SPP is very real, and it must be stopped before it's too late.

You're right, again. We don't have much time. We must act now.

Our elected officials are there to represent us, not take our rights, liberties and freedoms away. If they try/do, then it is up to us to remove them from office. It is our responsibility.


Your signature says, "United We Stand". Divided we shall fall. This is America, and it is worth fighting for.

How much longer shall we wait before taking up arms and fomenting a revolt? Our forefathers knew a time would come when such action would be undoubtedly necessary as they provided for this in our Bill of Rights and Constitution. Our "Public Servants" (It is interesting to note the term has been usurped by "Authority" and "Officials" - very telling indeed) have long ago stopped serving the public and have been catering to the plutocracy, meritocracy, oligarchy at our expense.

I, for one, am completely fed up with our government and believe that we are on the eve of a full-fledged revolution. I could spend hours blathering on and on about our government but do not wish to derail such a superb thread. Good job!

Thanks I'm not so blue now and thanks for the pep talk I needed it. Let us know if you get anymore letters from our dear congressmen. We don't have to fight now but I would say perhaps we should get ready- time to pull out the ole combat boots.

Originally posted by Infoholic
As far as putting on the combat boots... get em on. We all need to wear our "combat boots" because this is going to be a long uphill battle.

Sighs awwww do I have to. (Whines some more) Sighs..... Guess I better order some then I'm fresh out.

Originally posted by Leyla

Originally posted by Infoholic
As far as putting on the combat boots... get em on. We all need to wear our "combat boots" because this is going to be a long uphill battle.

Sighs awwww do I have to. (Whines some more) Sighs..... Guess I better order some then I'm fresh out.

Don't forget extra socks...Don't want you to get Trench Foot.

As for the government, probably the best thing to ask them, that could quite probably address all the issues at once is, "Why aren't you obeying the Constitution to which you swore an Oath?" After all, it's all the Offices of all three Branches, on both State & Federal levels that must take the Oath!

Originally posted by MidnightDStroyer

Originally posted by Leyla

Originally posted by Infoholic
As far as putting on the combat boots... get em on. We all need to wear our "combat boots" because this is going to be a long uphill battle.

Sighs awwww do I have to. (Whines some more) Sighs..... Guess I better order some then I'm fresh out.

Don't forget extra socks...Don't want you to get Trench Foot.

As for the government, probably the best thing to ask them, that could quite probably address all the issues at once is, "Why aren't you obeying the Constitution to which you swore an Oath?" After all, it's all the Offices of all three Branches, on both State & Federal levels that must take the Oath!

LOL yeah.. Guess I better order some. Sorry I didn't reply earlier.

Info Do you have a update yet?

[edit on 5/10/2007 by Leyla]

Unfortunately, no I don't have any updates as of now. I am anxiously awaiting some sort of reply.

Kelldor,

I do not mind, nor should there be a problem with others adding to this thread. I'm pleased to see others taking an interest. I encourage anyone/everyone to add their own activities here.

Thanks for your input and addition to this thread. It's going to take a whole lot more people doing the same to get anything done.

You, too, keep up the good work!



Info.

ATS are we allowed to throw major hissy fits on here? Any thing in the terms and conditions? Because I'm about to throw one....*Throws a major hissy fit...* I mean come on! Did they even ask us what we wanted? No.. They sneak around behind our backs. Hardly no coverage at all except from Lou Dobbs from CNN who talked about it perhaps a month ago. And that was the first time I even heard about the NAU.

That is messed up, that our own government that we elected, keeps things from us such as the NAU. I don't know about you but I feel betrayed here.

I have just received a reply from Sen. Maria Cantwell of Washington;


Dear Mr. X,

Thank you for contacting me with your concerns about the creation of the North American Union. I appreciate hearing from you on this matter, and regret the delayed response.

As you may know, some recent news articles have reported of the possible creation of a North American Union. The concept of building a North American Union comes from the Independent Task Force on North America . The Task Force, sponsored by the Council on Foreign Relations, the Canadian Council of Chief Executives, and the Mexican Council on Foreign Relations, analyzed the relationships between Canada , Mexico , and the United States since the implementation of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) in 1994. In its conclusions, it recommended the creation of a North American community by 2010. While this community would include a "common external tariff and an outer security perimeter within which the movement of people, products, and capital will be legal, orderly, and safe," it would not establish a union similar to that of the European Union and maintains that national sovereignty must be upheld and respected. Currently, there are no plans by the Administration or Congress to establish a North American community.

In March 2005, the United States did establish the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP) with Canada and Mexico . SPP set up a ministerial-level working group to address the different security and economic challenges facing North America as a whole. SPP is not a treaty nor a trade agreement; it represents a commitment to cooperation and joint action by the governments of Canada , Mexico , and the United States on economic matters.

I understand your concerns with the North American community and the SPP. It is important to note that the North American community is only a suggestion and that the SPP initiative is not a legally binding trade agreement. Both merely represent ideas on how to further the goals outlined by NAFTA more than ten years ago. Given the importance of trade to Washington state's economy, I believe that such discussions on how to expand market access for Washington state workers, businesses, and farmers are important.

Washington state has enjoyed substantial economic benefits from an increasingly global economy that has been largely dependent on trade. Indeed, our agricultural, technology, and aerospace sectors have helped make Washington one of the most trade dependent states in the nation - with one in three jobs related to trade. Opening access to overseas markets has helped create a positive effect on Washington state's economy by providing business opportunities and increasing job opportunities. I am generally supportive of a trade policy that expands access to overseas markets, but want to do so in a manner that ensures fair competition for domestic businesses and supports basic labor protections and environmental standards.

With an active and fair trade policy, I am confident that Washington state will continue to benefit from an increasingly integrated role in the international economy. Please be assured that I am committed to working with my colleagues on a trade agenda that best meets the needs of all Washingtonians.

Sincerely,
Maria Cantwell
United States Senator


This is from my state legislature Senator Val Stevens;


Dear Mr XX,

Thank you for your recent e-mail regarding the Security and Prosperity
Partnership, commonly referred to as the North American Union and the Real ID Act.

You may be interested to know that during the 2007 session I introduced
legislation opposing the Real ID Act (SJM 8005) and the North American Union (SJM8004). However, the climate in Olympia during the 2007 session was not friendly toward my proposals and they did not pass.

Thank you for bringing your views on these and other issues to my attention.

Sincerely,
Senator Val Stevens
39th Legislative District

Info? Any update yet?