reply posted on 27-3-2007 @ 03:18 AM by Mystery_Lady
It is a moral problem for me and many others who share the same beliefs as I do, and read the same Bible as I do. That moral issue is never going to
go away in society as a whole. It will always be there, because there will always be people who see it as a moral problem.
"Yet you can't even grasp that fact, you prefer to teach your child fear and hate. Why?"
Why is it always considered hate when Christians stand up for themselves and say homosexuality is not ok with us. It is immoral and a sin. Why is this
so? Do you actually think Christians ban together to beat up gays? I don't think so. Most of us true honest to God Chrisitans actually teach what you
call tolerance. We call it loving your neighbour and loving your enemy. Something many Christian bashers need to learn.
Besides there are just as many if non-Christians that are against homosexuality also. It is not just a moral problem for Christians.
"You yourself said that you wouldn't want your kids associating with gays. "
Exactly where have i said that?
This has nothing to do with a race issue, or how animals behave. You do realize that we are different than animals? I believe God set us above
animals. What animals do, doesn't necessairly mean we should do the same things, unless you really want to go back to basial nature.
Neither would I want to see any gay treated badly, as if they are abnormal, beaten up, or worse yet how Hitler treated them in the concentration
camps. That was a total atrosity. Gays are normal human beings just like everyone else, that includes sin and being immoral. Heck, just because I'm
Christian, doesn't mean I don't sin or not do things that are immoral either. Everyone is a sinner, and besides that is what forgivness is for. How
many times do you forgive a person in a day? 7x70 meaning indefinitly. Therefore to be able to forgive that much, there is no room for hate, or
looking down on others because of what they do. I'd be wrong for doing that, because I would be judging them. Your right gay is not a disease, but
neither is it in-bread or biological.
The gay agenda is to push it so far as to make people think they are gay when they are not. It starts with reading fairy tales to as young as age as
possible to be able to plant seeds in their minds, and to make them confused later on. The only reason people get confused about it, is because it is
a choice. If it wasen't, then there would be no confusion. We are suppose to be teaching them right from wrong, morality, values, and norms, not
confusing them. Yes, I'll teach mine my values, which has nothing to do with hate. Yes I'l teach them it is against the Bible, which I believe is
God's word, but I will also teach them love, and toleration that go beyond what the secular world thinks of toleration.
Later on if they choose to reject it and become gay, then so be it. I'll pray for them. At least I know I will have taught them what I believe is
right, and in a way so they don't hate. Why is that such a hard concept? It goes along the same line that if a killer kills someone you love, you
don't hate them. Yes, you are griving and angry, but you don't hate them. Yes, Christians have done that, and have truely come to terms of love thy
enemy. It can be extremely hard to do in some cases. Someone telling me that they are gay will never have the impact that a killer does, yet you
basically assume that I and all other Christians will act as if they killed our cloestest realitive, and want to severly hurt them. Why is that?
As I asked before, where do we draw the line? Let's assume that the gay's pushing their agenda won. Now the secular people who are bi-sexual and
love orgies start to say, hey this is normal also. Lets have fairy tales about the king, king, king, princess, and princess who all love each other.
Lets teach our little children that this is Ok and perfectly normal. We want marriage rights also just like the hetrosexuals and homosexuals. Then the
next group steps up, and say hey we had to be in the cloest such a long time. We should get recognition also, and beastality should be acceptable as
anything else. We should have the right to marry the animal we love. Oh, lets start by writing about the King and the Goat.
No matter what is said, the secular world will always assume that the Christians must give up their beliefs and values in face of what they call
tolerance. This is where real Christians, not so called Chrisitans, will not budge. They have stood up to worse, and are standing up to much worse in
other countries over other issues. I have already seen where pastors were jailed last year in Canada over this issue. Is that what your tolerance
dictates, when you feel the other person isn't tolerating your set beliefs? Is that what you want here for Christians and pastors in America?
I'm not advocating going back into the closet. I will advocate to keep it where it belongs in the bedroom, and to discuss it when a parent would
naturally discuss hetrosexual sex. I said naturally, not when the school says it is ok.
I don't see other groups who have other sexual prefrences coming out and demanding their rights and acceptance. Through the internet, unfortunatly, I
have found out there are much, much worse things that people practice sexually than homosexually. Some of those practices, I could never, ever, ever
tolerate. Yes, I would run, not walk, run away from those people. A gay I would go out to lunch with as long as we understood each other.
All I'm really trying to advocate, eventhough it seems like I'm doing a miserable job at it, is tolerance on both sides of the fence. Not
necessairly accetance. Homosexuals don't hate Christians just because of their beliefs, and Christians don't hate homosexuals, and to see them as
God sees them. To do that, you have to love and not hate.
Homosexuals, don't keep pushing and shoving your agenda on us and our kids trying to force us to believe it is ok and normal. Christians, don't keep
Bible thumping them on the heads. I litterally had that happen to me, and it hurts like hell. Had a headache for the rest of the day. Neither side
will get anywhere with any of those types of tatics. All it does is cause people to hate more.