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Hi Wizard, Once again I find it incredulous that the disbeleivers come up with so many excuses and tripe. How many helicopters is there in the New York Area?
Swamp and Delta excuses yet again! are you saying their are not brave Americans who would know what to do and do it with out the say so of others.
Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
[Excuses? How much time have you spent with helicopters? Or training for performing helicopter rescues? Ive spent a chunk of my life assigned to Navy helicopter squadrons, we trained to rescue people from a variety of situations and there are times where you just dont try.
NYPD rescue teams were directed to mobilize at the intersection of Church and Vesey Streets. The first of these officers arrived at Church and Vesey at 8:56 a.m. At 8:50 a.m., the aviation unit of the NYPD dispatched two helicopters to the WTC to report on conditions and assess the feasibility of a rooftop landing or special rescue operations.
At 8:58 a.m., a helicopter pilot reported on rooftop conditions. James Ciccone, Police Officer, NYPD Aviation Unit: On the morning of September 11th, as I arrived at World Trade Tower 1, I was accessing the damage
on the north side of the building, and the rooftop area for the possibility of
rooftop extraction from one of our heavier lift helicopters. And at that point, a few passes, and slow passes, we made a determination that we didn’t see anybody up on the roof, but more so we had problems with the heat and the smoke from the building. The heat actually made it difficult for us to hold the helicopters because it would interfere with the rotor system.
At approximately 9:30 a.m. one of the helicopters present advised that a rooftop
evacuation still would not be possible.
Mr. Ciccone: After the Second Tower was hit, we tried to make our way towards
that area, but the smoke from the first building, Tower 1, obscured the rooftop of Tower 2. It was the first hour-and-a-half that was critical for these observations—for rooftop rescue. We flew a horseshoe pattern—in that horseshoe pattern—for over a pattern of about an hour-and-a-half before the buildings collapsed. That, the same observations were made. There was no one on the roof. Our ability to get in that type position was still factored in by the heat, and made it difficult to even, to make it plausible, to get on the roof.
Originally posted by CameronFox
Thank you Ultima for doing what the Wonderful Wizard should have!
Wizard...once again your thread you started was proven FALSE!
Prior to 9:59 a.m., no NYPD helicopter transmission predicted that either tower would collapse.
Originally posted by craig732
Roof doors are locked for safety and security reasons.
Originally posted by Wizard_In_The_Woods
Dear Ultima1, kokoro and CameronFox:
Well I’ll be a monkey’s uncle. My profoundest apologies that I didn’t think about consulting the 9-11 commission report first! Boy I really am dumb. How silly of me. How could I allow such an oversight to happen? I must confess, I don’t have a copy. Where can I get one? So that’s were ALL the answers are! Stupid, stupid me for trying to figure this out on my own — all along all of us foolish ‘conspiracy theorists’ have been doing nothing but reinventing the wheel.
The Wizard In The Woods