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Howard Beach NYC, UFO Photo?


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Topic started on 23-2-2007 @ 10:18 PM by miguelbmx


Photo of a UFO that looks like the O'Hare object, from her balcony in howards beach NYC, the pic was taken on 12-27-2006 @ 4:23pm.




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reply posted on 23-2-2007 @ 10:20 PM by dgtempe


Nice picture, beautiful, is there something like a UFO

in the sky? It sure is a pretty picture.



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reply posted on 23-2-2007 @ 10:23 PM by miguelbmx


lol i havent been called miguelito in a long time yeah i reposted the pics now to show it more, you should se my other pics on myspace

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reply posted on 23-2-2007 @ 10:40 PM by dgtempe


e!!! Wow, that does look like a UFO of sorts.

Miguel, i am Spanish and i love that name.

Anyway, very cool, thanks for sharing. Those suckers are everywhere lately, huh?
I wonder what they want.

Awesome



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reply posted on 24-2-2007 @ 12:09 AM by miguelbmx


yeah its my belief that we are going to start seeing a lot more with in the next two years, well atleast i hope so , de donde eres?



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reply posted on 24-2-2007 @ 12:33 AM by Rotator


Looks like a light aircraft to me, nice picture all the same.



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reply posted on 24-2-2007 @ 11:58 AM by jritzmann


Miguel-
I've sent you a U2U, get in touch as soon as ya can.

~J



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reply posted on 24-2-2007 @ 06:24 PM by jritzmann


JUst to keep everyone abreast, I have the high resolution shot sent to me by Miguel, and I'll be speaking with the witness this weekend.

More updates to follow.



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reply posted on 24-2-2007 @ 08:48 PM by manastin



Originally posted by jritzmann
JUst to keep everyone abreast, I have the high resolution shot sent to me by Miguel, and I'll be speaking with the witness this weekend.

More updates to follow.


This means there are some important things here.. I cant wait for the followings..



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reply posted on 25-2-2007 @ 02:44 PM by jritzmann


Currently awaiting control sample shots of the area. I spoke to the witness yesterday and she related the day of the shot.

More to follow...



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reply posted on 25-2-2007 @ 03:51 PM by Springer


Come on Jeff! I can't stand the suspense!

Springer...



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reply posted on 25-2-2007 @ 04:23 PM by babiebrina05


Hi .. this is "the witness"/ miguelbmx's girlfriend.. I sent the picture to miguel and both he and I will be keeping in touch with Jeff... Just filling everyone in from the "horses mouth"



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reply posted on 25-2-2007 @ 07:07 PM by miguelbmx


just fowarded the pic's to JRITZ hopefully he can give us an answer soon but remember these things take time.



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reply posted on 26-2-2007 @ 11:09 AM by jritzmann


Ok, firstly thanx so much to Miguel and his lovely gal for giving me the skinny and the for being gracious enough to send me everything I asked for. I dont see anything unusualin EXIF data, nor do I see anything like tampering. I also dont believe Miguel or his girlfriend are blatent hoaxers...so lets leave that alone. Let do this from a bit of a different angle as if we didnt h

Looking at channel specific data, in this case in red/green/blue or RGB.

I've cropped to the object itself.

First the red channel:

image source: http://atsmedia.cachefly.net/uploads/ats41870_red.jpg


Essentially isnt telling us anything.

Now the Green:

image source: http://atsmedia.cachefly.net/uploads/ats41871_green.jpg


Interesting no? On the left side were seeing a bump from top to bottom we dont see in the red channel and not to this definition in the original RGB image. We also see that there's an arcing light grouping going from that appendange to the right, and tapering. Hmmm. Seems like something we've seen maybe.

How about the blue:

image source: http://atsmedia.cachefly.net/uploads/ats41872_blue.jpg


Aha. Now we have that appendage on the left more defined...and to boot, it's now highlighted by a tight white grouping (which would be dark in the combined RGB). The blue is emphasizing it out of lack of blue channel data. We also see another appendage that seems to be making a break of the "underside" of the object. It's angled so it's bottom in almost pointing right.

Now the environment this was taken in seems to be a maritime community. Boats, water, canal inlet.

I think we're safe in calling this a seagull. Looking at the green channel I believe we're seeing the head as the appendage on the left. The arc is the wing, as if it's in mid glide. In the blue channel, what we're seeing as the tight group of white? The beak/head.

Given the motion, the lack of definition, the environmental habitat of seagulls, and all these instances of similarity, it's pretty much a certainty what we're seeing is a medium distance seagull.

I will say Miguel's girlfriend told me she did not see any birds, nor hear them. That's something I considered, however it could be very easy to miss. It may not have been her focal point when shooting the pic, and it may not have been visible thru her viewfinder. And, lets face it, the little fellas can be quick. By the time the pic was shot and she looked back up...it could well have been gone.

So, thats what I got. In no way should Miguel or his girlfriend feel dumb...cuz honestly? I'd have thought it wierd too. I mean it does look similarly to the O'Hare and LaSalle object, but I dont see any of the structure I do in those here. The outward appearance is definitely odd, but channel specific data does show alot more at times like this.

Keep lookin up you two...with the northeast sightings as of late I wouldnt be shocked to see something come outta NY.

~J



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reply posted on 26-2-2007 @ 11:24 AM by torsion



Originally posted by jritzmann

I think we're safe in calling this a seagull.


Nice work. Looks like we came to the same decision by different routes! I had a crow in mind rather than a seagull but played safe and said 'bird'!

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reply posted on 26-2-2007 @ 12:30 PM by babiebrina05


Hey guys ... Thanks Jeff, like i said on the phone i wasnt intented on shooting this "bird"/ object in my photo at all... i so sorry for the work that everyone has put in to finding out the truth. I can say that it was not done by any part intentionally to try and fool anyone, im very new to this UFO and ET stuff and really didnt realize any object in the picture till miguel pointed it out... Again I am very sorry for the amount of work that was put into discovering the truth. at least we all know now and will be keeping our eyes open have a great week..

<3 always
sabrina/ miguel's girlfriend



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reply posted on 26-2-2007 @ 07:07 PM by Springer



Originally posted by babiebrina05
Again I am very sorry for the amount of work that was put into discovering the truth. at least we all know now and will be keeping our eyes open have a great week..

<3 always
sabrina/ miguel's girlfriend


NO WAY!!! You have NOTHING to "be sorry" for! Matter of fact I want to personally THANK YOU for bringing this image here, allowing an expert to look it over and deduce the reality about it.

There are so many hoaxes out there and so many people intent upon promoting them that it is a MAJOR WIN when critical thought, HONESTY and technological expertise are aloowed to prevail BEFORE the B.S. starts rolling.

You all are WELCOME at AboveTopSecret.com ANYTIME!

Springer...



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reply posted on 26-2-2007 @ 08:32 PM by miguelbmx


i would like to thank every one especialy jritzmann and springer for making us feel so welcomed here i feel a bit embarrassed but atleast we know the truth, thanks jritz for spending some time looking at our pic.



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reply posted on 27-2-2007 @ 06:42 PM by Palasheea


As always, a great analysis Jeff! I also like it that you show a lot of sensitivity in your interpretations of these photo's because you know that when people post their images here, they are hoping, just like all of us here are, that what's showing in those images are UFO's. And sometimes they are that, but when they are not, at least you take the time to explain everything in detail so as to back up your conclusions on why they are not.
Keep up the good work! You're doing a great job!



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reply posted on 28-2-2007 @ 12:40 AM by jritzmann


Thanx Pala, means more then ya know.

And Springer's absolutely right, in no way should Miguel or Sabrina feel anything other then gratitude from us for showing them as feely as they did. Sabrina was such an open book on the phone and was as I said so gracious to give me what I needed to get the job done.

Theyre both examples of what we need at ATS. Thanx to you both, you're the reason I care enough to do what I do here.



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