Cushman, AR and Blowing Cave's entrance to Teros, page 1
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Topic started on 23-2-2007 @ 09:50 AM by whiterabbit
If anybody gives a crap, several of us from Underground Ozarks are headed down to Blowing Cave this weekend, partly for caving and partly to see if there's even a kernel of truth in the whole entrance to Teros thing. I don't think any of us really believe in it, but we're curious if there's some truth in it, like maybe a secondary cave under the main one or something. Some of us are even camping there.

So, I'll show some pictures or something come Monday.

[edit on 23-2-2007 by whiterabbit]


reply posted on 25-2-2007 @ 07:16 PM by whiterabbit
Okay, I don't know if I should bother from the overwhelming response, but here's some pictures of our trip.

This is the entrance to blowing cave:

www.undergroundozarks.com...


This is the breakdown area, where the entrance to the subworld was supposedly located. Note the flowing water in the right hand corner:

www.undergroundozarks.com...


Another shot of the breakdown room:

www.undergroundozarks.com...


Here's my thoughts, for anyone that might care. I didn't believe in this story in the first place, but having seen the place with my own eyes, I can now say that there's absolutely no chance it's true.

Any chamber below the breakdown room would almost certainly be filled with water. There's a heavily flowing stream that runs through the cave. While we were there, it rained, and we observed the stream rise a whole foot. Plus, further back in the cave, there are several chambers that sit lower than this one and they are all inevitably full of water.

It's just not true, guys. Any shaft leading four miles down would be well below the water table and full of water.

Plus, this cave is visited just about literally every weekend by locals and others. When we were there, there was another large group of people camping there, as a matter of fact.

People are in and out of this cave all the time. Every nook and cranny of that cave has had people in it one time or another. If there were an entrance to the underworld, somebody would have found it long ago.

[edit on 25-2-2007 by whiterabbit]


reply posted on 10-5-2011 @ 04:08 PM by christianmengele
Thank you for posting these photos. I'd suggest looking at this thread as well:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

In it I address a few things regarding the cave, including my opinion as to why you couldn't find the entrance to the Underground Empire in your trip. Still, I'm appreciative of your post and photos. I intend to go into that cave at some point, we'll see.

In a nutshell I believe you couldn't have casually discovered the entrance because Wight's group sealed it off. I think this part is mentioned in Branton's file. Remember they'd been in the cave a great deal of times before they accidentally discovered what led them into the entrance. For this they had to move stones. They were twelve men, so there's enough there to move a boulder....and to put it back in place.



reply posted on 10-5-2011 @ 04:48 PM by christianmengele
reply to post by ShadeWolf



Hi ShadeWolf,

in my view I'd like to continue calling it the Shaver Mystery. This is because, in spite of David L.'s correspondence to Richard Toronto pointing out that Shaver was wrong, the connection starts with Shaver.

If I may point you to this document: www.softcom.net...

I quote:

...logic and common sense will assure you that Shaver's world does not exist, as he described it, but that a world does exist composed of human beings, not spirits.


The origin of dispute starts with Ray Palmer. This is because RAP (as Palmer was known) was a believer in the spirit world. Shaver wasn't. RAP reshaped Shaver's original 10,000 word letter into the fiction tale known as "I remember Lemuria". This was entirely out of character for Shaver himself, who had absolutely no spiritual beliefs whatsoever, in contrast with Palmer who maintained a belief in spiritualism and reincarnation. Therefore, the "world of Shaver" was massively transformed by Ray Palmer.

Why would Palmer do this? Ray Palmer was a smart entrepreneur with an eye for what sold. He took a gamble in printing Shaver's material and it paid off handsomely. Naturally, he wasn't going to retire a winning horse and so he doctored and retailored everything Shaver submitted. I don't know exactly why Shaver put up with this, but my theory is that it made both men some much needed money, especially at a time when most post-war pulp magazines were folding, with the advent of television. Many years later Shaver would speak of how Palmer destroyed his stories to suit his own spiritual beliefs.

George D. Wight, author of the (apparently still missing) Wight Manuscript called the beings he encountered in Arkansas "Teros", in deference to the Shaver mystery. So while the mystery was exploited and perverted into esoterism, there is always the possibility that Shaver had it right, but was too heavily edited by RAP.
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