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An evelution happan. or??

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posted on Feb, 22 2007 @ 09:51 AM
sorry this is in norwegian. havent find it on English yet

But its about our closes relative, the chimpanzee,
they have taken the first step to be called human ape,
some flocks/tribes have make spears so tt wil be easyer to hunt for them, this shows the chimpanzee can solve a problem. and see forwords, and make useful tools, can we call this evelution??

posted on Feb, 22 2007 @ 10:10 AM
Here's a very crude traslation I was able to do with the internets.
I'm sure there's a better way to do this, but I've never translated any text before, let alone an entire page, so this is the best I could do.

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Oh, and Norway rules, because together with Sweden they make the best metal bands.

posted on Feb, 22 2007 @ 10:28 AM
Thx for translade it =)

posted on Feb, 22 2007 @ 12:40 PM
ABC News is now reporting the story. For the link in English; check below:
Hunting chimps may change view of human evolution
What realy caught my eye though on this story is that it is the females that are the hunters with the spears and not the males.

the females, who seem to do most of this type of hunting

And they tell us women are the peaceful ones

It has been known for many years that chimpanezes as well as some birds use tools to get the job done. What is unique to this story is that it seems that the chimps had the foresight as well as the intelligence to plan the tactics. This is extremely unusual and may well be due to the fact that this tribe of chimps live in a different type of environment that what is typical of their species.
Good Find!

posted on Feb, 22 2007 @ 12:55 PM
This is just an innovative way of having to make up for a pretty harsh environment," Pruetz said in a telephone interview. The chimps must come down from trees to gather food and rest in dry caves during the hot season.

Interesting. So one could perhaps extend this to say that the ability to use innovation when faced with difficult circumstances existed in the Last Common Ancestor of Humans and Chimps.
The chimps choose a branch, strip it of leaves and twigs, trim it down to a stable size and then chew the ends to a point. Then they use it to stab into holes where bush babies might be sleeping.

Fascinating. This is similar to what they do with sticks to 'fish' for termites, they select and prepare a stick, then stick it down a hole that termites might be in, pull it out, and if successful there are termites all over it which they then eat.
It is not a highly successful method of hunting. They only ever saw one chimpanzee succeed in getting a bush baby once.

But if you think about it the payoff is pretty good, maybe it will prove successful for this population in the long one.

We've known for a while now that chimps use complex procedures, they make 'termite fishing sticks', and even the Portogeuse explorers in the colonial era noted that they will select and use stones as simplistic tools. We also know that they will use relatively complex hunting strategies, one group will cash the prey through the tree-tops, others will be prestationed to 'herd' them into the area of the actual chimps that have the task of catching and killing them. And we know that they do this to other chimp 'clans', specificalyl targeting, and not for food, the young of another clan.

This is a bush baby, by the way:

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