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reply posted on 23-11-2002 @ 01:20 AM by Toltec
If memory serves Byrd a recent FBI report on the organizations indicates they are expecting the end of the world. One in which Jesus will come and vindicate there point of view. As it becomes increasingly apparent that reality has dealt them a foul ball, there could very well be violence.

Essentially though they are using the Christian angle to do something such groups as the KKK and ANP have never been able to do before. That is gain access to positions of authority within US government. Again why would such groups be interested in control over an agency such as Health and Human Services (as was described in link and prior post)?

At present we do have a Conservative Congress, Senate, Executive branch and Supreme Court. Who by the way are focused less on domestic issues and more foreign interests (Iraq and Al Queda). This is not to imply those issues should be devaluated, personally that Saddam Hussein releases prisoners from his jail and about a month later Al Queda is talking the talk says a lot about the impression Iraq is assisting that agency.

Nonetheless I am reminded of an incident during W.W.II, in which while the focus was one the war the insurance industry was able to get though the Federal system a mandate that the Fed could no longer regulate the insurance industry.

My impression is that there are, what seem on the surface to be irrelevant issues which can bite us real bad on the back side (such as how that decision made in W.W.II affects us now) and we do need to find ways to interceed in any such effort.


reply posted on 23-11-2002 @ 05:06 PM by James the Lesser
JamesG, don't have problem with legal foriegners(sp?) have problems with the illegal ones.

Why we need to know spanish? Mexicans swim across Rio Grande or Htians jump off a boat and swin to shore and invade the country. INS does nothing to stop them. We need to build a wall with barb wire and out posts every hundred feet. Then get sharp shooters with the right to shoot any invader. For that is what they are, invaders.

They are invading peacefully, but still invading. Get everyone to gether, find the ones here illegally, and ship their butts back home.

Plenty of legal ways to get here, so why invade? Also, to get here legally, one has to know some english, so no more need of second language. Soon we will lose the southern states to Mexico, and then what? Will we allow them to move north? Let them take Oregon, Washington, the Dakotas? Idaho? Where do we finally go hey, the nation of Mexico is invading us and stop them?

I already tried to talk to my representitive from here, wrote letters, made phone calls, nothing. Heck, went to Washington D.C., but gave up when I got to my hotel and couldn't talk to anyone. All of them didn't know a word of english. Desk clerk, manager, bell boys, none of them. All Mexicans who knew no english.

In other words JamesG, don't hate all foriegners, hate the ones who come here illegally and work for one dollar a day while the citizens of America are homless living on the streets because they wouldn't work for a dollar a day.


reply posted on 23-11-2002 @ 09:54 PM by Toltec
James there is always ways to identify people an example being I am a Miami Dolphins fan. Yes in the past a lot of people have died, so why consider more killing a valid argument.

You stated Illegal aliens should be shot so you consider that proper treatment?

I do not and cannot Condon the acts which resulted in the trail of tears. At the same time the United States is responsible for ending the torture and Murder of indigenous tribal peoples, in Caribbean as well as South and Central America. Clearly the actions of men play a role in Institutions. In some cases those actions have resulted in harm to a culture in others salvation (to the same peoples), this by the same institution known as the United States.

The topic of this thread is in relation to racial intolerance and the groups (institutions) which promote hatred of individuals to other institutions. That you say that killing Haitian and Mexicans (who by the way are considered Hispanic), because the come to this country, for a chance at a better life. Food for there children and freedom from oppression And do so illegally makes me want to say a prayer that we do not end up with your Face on a $20 bill.

James at no point in time have I stated that this problem is specific to the US. Rather itís a worldwide problem that transcends Race, Creed and Color.

Individuals who have banded together everywhere in the world to promote hatred towards others not specifically there kind (Generally, we are all Humans). And in fact there are thousands of reasons why this issue is presented as valid. One very common one is lack of jobs. In fact, Adolph Hitler had as an aspect of his political agenda. To remove the Israelis form the community so real "Germans" could have jobs. The Germans thought this was a great idea and now most of them live with that guilt.

The word most is very important here James it reflects the existence of a social neurosis one which effects a minority of any population. The resultant effect is to motivate and even smaller minority to consider killing as a means to and end to social problem and after that an even smaller minority. To act out those paranoid delusions of persecution, by killing people who are in some way different

James I am not interested in excuses, the reason there are no jobs is because there are no recourses. Identify and ascertain those recourses and there will
Be jobs (the rest is BS).

You know James the way you are talking my impression is you can finally admit that you are a part of a minority group. In my opinion I would not try to apply for assistance because of it.


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