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Teacher tells students that they belong in hell, and student gets punished.

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posted on Feb, 21 2007 @ 04:09 AM
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School penalizes student for recording his teacher telling he is going to hell for not believing in Jesus.


Source Link: www.delawareonline.com

The American Civil Liberties union is backing a Kearny High School student who objected when a teacher made religious statements in the classroom, including allegedly telling students that those who do not believe Jesus died for their sins belong in hell.

The student's lawyers filed a notice of claim on Feb. 13 against the school district, claiming that instead of addressing the teacher's conduct, it penalized the student for secretly taping the teacher.
(visit the link for the full news article)

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[edit on 21-2-2007 by DJMessiah]




posted on Feb, 21 2007 @ 04:32 AM
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This teacher is a moran and should be fired for violation of the first amendment. A teacher MUST be independant in class and don't try to show and influence their students... what kind of loony this guy is...





Among other things, LaClair claims that Paszkiewicz told students evolution is less fact-based than the Bible, there were dinosaurs on Noah's Ark, the Big Bang theory of creation is unscientific, and that the Bible has been proven to be literally true by the fulfillment of Biblical prophecies.


HAHAHA, who hire this kind of extremist to teach our childrens? Hell, he's a history teacher and believe that the bible is FACTUAL, WHAT A JOKE.
This guy must have a very twisted mind...

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posted on Feb, 21 2007 @ 04:56 AM
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The dinosaurs on Noah's ark really made me laugh too. Scholars have the dimension of the ark, so how does that teacher explain Noah bringing in two 46ft tall, 87 ton Bruhathkayosaurus on to his ship?



posted on Feb, 21 2007 @ 06:01 AM
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Originally posted by DJMessiah
The dinosaurs on Noah's ark really made me laugh too. Scholars have the dimension of the ark, so how does that teacher explain Noah bringing in two 46ft tall, 87 ton Bruhathkayosaurus on to his ship?


Not to mention the problem of a T-Rex or Velociraptor causing mayhem.....



posted on Feb, 21 2007 @ 06:05 AM
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Originally posted by DJMessiah
The dinosaurs on Noah's ark really made me laugh too. Scholars have the dimension of the ark, so how does that teacher explain Noah bringing in two 46ft tall, 87 ton Bruhathkayosaurus on to his ship?


Not to mention the problem of a T-Rex or Velociraptor causing mayhem.....



posted on Feb, 21 2007 @ 06:12 AM
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The students were wrong by infringing on the privacy of the individual. The law is the law and you cannot secretly tape someone without their permission in Delaware. I do not agree with the teachers opinion, but give me a break. You are in high school, suck it up and come up with some opinion to debate and refute the teachers opinion.

The teacher in no way forced the students to believe his ignorant jibber jabber. I was told the same, especially because I was a Roman Catholic. I pwned the teacher using the Bible itself and historical fact proving that Catholicism was not only a Christian denomination but the original form of such a religion.

The infringement of the first amendment would have taken place if the school condemned the students for speaking of their beliefs. They however avoided standing up for their beliefs and instead infringed upon the privacy of the teacher.

I doubt the courts will uphold this opinion, but its a privacy law matter, not constitutional. Its the equivalent of someone calling you ignorant because of your politics and then them blackmailing you as a racist because you happen to be of another race.



posted on Feb, 21 2007 @ 06:14 AM
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The infringement of the first amendment would have taken place if the school condemned the students for speaking of their beliefs.

Maybe you didn't read the article... The teacher denigrated the student because of his views in front of the class, thus violation of first amendment.



posted on Feb, 21 2007 @ 07:15 AM
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Then again, I haven't been educated in the public school system for years, and not to mention I could actually defend my beliefs at the High School age, not being a useless tool who could have my intellectual rights infringed upon.



posted on Feb, 21 2007 @ 06:32 PM
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I've found that debating with the teacher isn't always a good thing. Some don't like it at all and will not hesitate to suspend you or give you a failing grade if you try to debate with them or correct them.



posted on Feb, 21 2007 @ 07:44 PM
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Originally posted by CAConrad0825
Then again, I haven't been educated in the public school system for years, and not to mention I could actually defend my beliefs at the High School age, not being a useless tool who could have my intellectual rights infringed upon.


first off the teacher told the kids they were going to hell. Whatever reason, christ or whatever, you dont tell students they are going to hell because they dont believe something. In a public school, with public tax dollars, I don't want some fundie spouting off his personal views as facts to a bunch of highschool students, and condemning them when they don't believe in it.

This is a public school, public money. Its not his school, therefor we don't follow his rules. We follow OUR rules, and OUR rules don't allow people to condemn other people based on religious views. Plain and simple.

Its a principle of the matter. It should NOT slide because the kids should be able to debate a teacher. Thats ridiculous. The teacher is there to teach what we tell them to teach, not his political or religious views.




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