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Originally posted by Allred5923
I think that our day and age, with the recorded history that we have, and with the boom of the 'Industrial' implication's , we realize that we are involved with the excelleration of the event. 16k years ago, weren't to many coal plants you know..
Originally posted by AlphaAnuOmega
Why are so many people trying to disprove that CO2 affects the temperature here on earth.
Originally posted by AlphaAnuOmega
Why are so many people trying to disprove that CO2 affects the temperature here on earth. The Global Warming trend is actually a climate shift. A severe one at that. If you look at data from all over the world, it demonstrates the amount of CO2's affect on the environment.
All skeptics even state that CO2 effects the environment, then they double-talk and contradict themselves by stating that CO2 has no effect and there is no proof.
There is proof. Look outside, there's your proof. Global Warming isn't a conspiracy, the government covering it up was the conspiracy. I bet you most of the people here on ATS said..."The government is hiding facts and documentation about Global Warming and we know it's real and it's been hidden for so long" Now, they say it's a hoax, because most of them can't see beyond their own nose.
Originally posted by TheAvenger
Debating the science is entertaining, but I think that based only on scientific past performances, I would love to make a large futures bet against anthropogenic global warming having any meaningful impact on the planet 20 years from now. I am prepared to deal with the ridicule if I'm wrong. I wonder whether the A.G.W. believers are?
An MIT meteorologist said three years ago that he would bet money that global average temperatures would cool back down in 20 years. The quote triggered a flurry of Internet dialogues and prompted scientists to challenge each other to make bets on climate-change issues.
One scientist took the wagering meteorologist, Richard Lindzen, up on his bet, but the deal fell apart over a disagreement about odds.
While new to most of us, betting on global warming is old hat to some scientists.
In 2005, Annan offered to take Lindzen, the MIT meteorologist, up on his bet that global temperatures in 20 years will be cooler than they are now. However, no wager was ever settled on because Lindzen wanted odds of 50-to-1 in his favor. This meant that for a $10,000 bet, Annan would have to pay Lindzen the entire sum if temperatures dropped, but receive only $200 if they rose.
“Richard Lindzen’s words say that there is about a 50 percent chance of [global] cooling,” Annan wrote about the bet. “His wallet thinks it is a 2 percent shot. Which do you believe?”
Soon after, however, Galina Mashnich and Vladimir Bashkirtsev, two Russian solar physicists who argue global temperatures are driven by changes in the Sun’s activity, agreed to Annan’s bet.
The two camps have agreed to compare global temperatures between 1998 and 2003 with those between 2012 and 2017. The loser will pay up in 2018.
Since 2005, Annan said he has offered to make bets with other global warming skeptics. “There have been a few nibbles since but nothing substantial has turned up,” Annan said in an email interview.
Few climate scientists seem willing to bet against the effects of global warming. “A couple of colleagues have offers on the table, but there are no takers on the other side,” he added.