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Originally posted by GreatTech
For all atheists: who do you believe is the Supreme Being of the Universe? Yourself, the President, a famous scientist, a famous writer, a famous athlete...? Why?
Originally posted by ixiy
Atheists have no need to spread their science to others who do not want, need or believe in it.
Why do the religious need to spread their faith to others who do not want, need or believe in it?
Why do the religious see the need to spread their faith to others with a different kind of faith than their own?
When everyone believes that their views are correct and have a desire so strong that force is used to make another follow what one believes to be correct causes conflicts.
Why is there a need so strong that one is willing to kill another over it?
Who is truly correct?
Can we all be wrong about what we believe?
Is one willing to see if they may have been wrong?
Can blind faith be dangerous?
Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher
then atheists are lying to themselves. Atheists want to be accepted for who they are. Atheists want to belong. Atheists need to both be accepted and belong. Time spent in self reflection would reveal this as a truth from any perspective other than those who do not want or need to be accepted, and do not want or need to belong.
Originally posted by GreatTech
For all atheists: who do you believe is the Supreme Being of the Universe? Yourself, the President, a famous scientist, a famous writer, a famous athlete...? Why?
Originally posted by mojo4sale
Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher
then atheists are lying to themselves. Atheists want to be accepted for who they are. Atheists want to belong. Atheists need to both be accepted and belong. Time spent in self reflection would reveal this as a truth from any perspective other than those who do not want or need to be accepted, and do not want or need to belong.
Now were liars on top of everything else weve been labeled in this thread.
How do atheists want/need to belong to anything, we deny the existance of a supreme being and his/her teachings, how is that lying to ourselves, except from your perspective, given evidence to the contrary i may change my opinion, i may also win 25 million in the powerball next week.
Those who believe in God are those that need to belong, who is it that needs to gather in groups each week to pray and hear the word of the lord, who needs re-affirmation of their beliefs each day through prayer, which group of people is it that needs to spread the word, who needs to believe in an afterlife to gain forgiveness for their sins committed in this life. Who is it that needs to belong.
Not Atheists.
Cheers.
Originally posted by GreatTech
melatonin, are you happy or unhappy with "nature"? Why?
Originally posted by VladTheImpaler
As an Agnostic Athiest I have to disagree with you mojo4sale and agree with Esoteric Teacher on this in spesific. What Esoteric Teacher writes is true, however this has nothing to do with Athiests versus Thiests. Everyone has a underlying need to belong and to be accepted, this is basic human nature and has nothing to do with the belief or non-belief of God(s).
Originally posted by GreatTech
Originally posted by shihulud
Do you feel that theists are more intelligent due to their faith???
I will not use the word "intelligence" due to its controversy and how it may hurt people's feelings; instead, I will use the word development. I believe theists are more developed in Spiritual matters and that atheists are more developed in scientific matters.
Originally posted by shihulud
Why would you feel that theists were more 'developed' in spiritual matters than atheists when the spiritual is a subjective subject and therefore not quantified by belief. Atheists can be very spiritual sometimes moreso that theists. While in the case of scientific matters its all down to how you perceive the world around you, sometimes subjective but has more of a factual objective basis than the subjectivity of spiritual matters.
Originally posted by GreatTech
What would the world be like if it were 0% theistic and 100% atheistic, or 50% theistic and 50% atheistic, or 100% theistic and 0% atheistic?
Originally posted by GreatTech
What would the world be like if it were 0% theistic and 100% atheistic, or 50% theistic and 50% atheistic, or 100% theistic and 0% atheistic?
If it were 0% theistic, I believe the world would be gone.
If it were 50% theistic, I believe the world would be a partial struggle for survival.
If it were 100% theistic, I believe the world would be Heaven-like.
Then why is it still here?? Depending on the diety of worship then theism is not that old in the context of length of time that humans have been on this planet
Originally posted by GreatTech
What would the world be like if it were 0% theistic and 100% atheistic, or 50% theistic and 50% atheistic, or 100% theistic and 0% atheistic?
If it were 0% theistic, I believe the world would be gone.
The world struggles for survival as it is, no need to add faith into the mix.
If it were 50% theistic, I believe the world would be a partial struggle for survival.
If it were 100% theistic, I believe the world would be Heaven-like.
Then why is it still here?? Depending on the diety of worship then theism is not that old in the context of length of time that humans have been on this planet
Originally posted by GreatTech
What would the world be like if it were 0% theistic and 100% atheistic, or 50% theistic and 50% atheistic, or 100% theistic and 0% atheistic?
If it were 0% theistic, I believe the world would be gone.
The world struggles for survival as it is, no need to add faith into the mix.
If it were 50% theistic, I believe the world would be a partial struggle for survival.
If it were 100% theistic, I believe the world would be Heaven-like.
Originally posted by shihulud
Then why is it still here?? Depending on the diety of worship then theism is not that old in the context of length of time that humans have been on this planet
Originally posted by melatonin
Originally posted by shihulud
Then why is it still here?? Depending on the diety of worship then theism is not that old in the context of length of time that humans have been on this planet
Quite true actually. In the 4.6billion years of the earth, the period of theistic humans is pretty inconsequential, even moreso if we take the history of the universe.
Originally posted by BASSPLYR
THe rennesaince(sp) was so succesful and flurished because it was an age of bringing back science. You think florence built all of those buildings without a deep interest in real knowledge. The rennesaince was mirrored after the greek and roman times where there was still religion but science was also prevelant.
Originally posted by GreatTech
I give you the concept of "think back." Correlating human age with theories of the creation of the Universe become inconsequential with respect to time. The more we "think back", the more we find God, but thinking back is not the only method to discover God. Prayer and meditation are effective methods for discovering God; if we cannot humble ourselves, we cannot be enlightened (compare the Dark Ages with the Renaissance).
And you think the theory of evolution is wrong ??? But then again I do suppose it depends on your definition of god
Originally posted by GreatTech
Originally posted by melatonin
Originally posted by shihulud
Then why is it still here?? Depending on the diety of worship then theism is not that old in the context of length of time that humans have been on this planet
Quite true actually. In the 4.6billion years of the earth, the period of theistic humans is pretty inconsequential, even moreso if we take the history of the universe.
I give you the concept of "think back." Correlating human age with theories of the creation of the Universe become inconsequential with respect to time. The more we "think back", the more we find God, but thinking back is not the only method to discover God. Prayer and meditation are effective methods for discovering God; if we cannot humble ourselves, we cannot be enlightened (compare the Dark Ages with the Renaissance).