Originally posted by supercheetah
You haven't disproven anything. If you split one, of course you end up with three numbers, but their sum is still two.
Ah, yes, but that is in a limited realm of reality. What about mitosis? I am not saying that they equal 1/2 each.
For example. Specific animals will continue to grow if cut in half or thirds. If we have 2 worms and one of them is cut in half and both halves grow
to the same length as the worm that was not cut in half, then do we not now have 3?
Or if we don't talk about math in wholes, because Existence is not a whole, and we talk about it in pieces and parts, then if we take 1 apple and 1
orange (2 pieces of fruit) and cut them both in half, we now have 4 pieces of fruit.
There is no thing that is truly whole, that is why we have repeating decimals and numbers like pi.
Of course any number can be split infinitely. That's not disputed, but redefining the axioms of mathematics means you're moving outside the
realm of mathematics.
Not entirely. It will be revised.
Logic doesn't create limits. It only creates understanding and order.
The system of "logic" creates limits, but the logic of Existence is unlimited. The logic of there needing to be order is illogical, it's an
obligatory expectation. Who determines what constitutes logic and order? Did Mr. Logic and Mrs. order introduce themselves to the Human species and
give them the laws of order and logic? Haha
(a little sarcasm with the seriousness)
Without it, nothing makes sense.
The concept of Nothing
(no-thing) is a real consciousness opener when it makes sense. "Systematized" logic is not needed. For example: If I
approached a philosophy teacher and told him/her that Nothing does not Exist, him/her would condemn it as a "tautology" instead of first trying to
understand it. Yet we see tautologies all over mathematics, "needless" to say in our own language. Aren't we all just tautologies? Tautology merely
creates tautologies by limiting expressions.
Existence may be unlimited, but there's no need to believe that understanding logic will create limits.
So If someone said that they oversat logic, would you understand? Or is that someone illogical? What if they said the opposite of right-side up is
left-side down and not up-side down?
Hey, this is why Athiests are Athiests, they get to the "bottom" of things.
Supercheetah, please u2u me! I think we are going way off topic
Or maybe we can create a thread of our own. Thanks
Enjoyed the convo
[edit on 10-4-2007 by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal]