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Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
well, i know there are the scientific atheists that don't see god as being proven
that would be me
i was brought up a christian
spent 14 years of my life being an unquestioning religious person
then i started to question
i've been an atheist since age 15
and i'll continue to be one until someone proves the existence of any deity scientifically or i die
whichever comes first
Originally posted by GreatTech
madnessinmysoul, is your goal in earthlife to win a Nobel Prize in one of the sciences? There are more lofty goals in the Eternal Perspective.
Originally posted by runetang
Scientific proof of a diety = The undoing of free will.
not exactly, you could deny God even though God had been scientificly proven, but chances are you'd end up in hellfire. So naturally everyone would believe, and thus there would be no free will, and no workers of deception. The deceiver would be hard pressed to do a damn thing now wouldn't he?
Originally posted by GreatTech
List one or more reasons. I will list three:
1) Atheists have different thought patterns: rarely does God enter their mind for the cause and effect of any event.
2) Atheists have different vocabularies: frequently they score a little above average on "standardized tests" but these tests frequently have little to do with Sacred, Spiritual, and religious texts. They are more concerned with knowledge rather than wisdom. They frequently take part in the "selling of the soul syndrome."
3) Atheists' mind's eyes are underdeveloped: they frequently cannot associate the Creation of something as magnificent as the Universe to anything but a human or an atom of hydrogen.
Personally, I believe in God with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When God approaches you, it is filled with love and power!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by GreatTech
List one or more reasons. I will list three:
1) Atheists have different thought patterns: rarely does God enter their mind for the cause and effect of any event.
2) Atheists have different vocabularies: frequently they score a little above average on "standardized tests" but these tests frequently have little to do with Sacred, Spiritual, and religious texts. They are more concerned with knowledge rather than wisdom. They frequently take part in the "selling of the soul syndrome."
3) Atheists' mind's eyes are underdeveloped: they frequently cannot associate the Creation of something as magnificent as the Universe to anything but a human or an atom of hydrogen.
Originally posted by shizzle5150
Quite simply a lot of people can not fathom the idea that this life is all you have. So I would say yes, atheists do have a different thought pattern. Some people have such a hard time believing that they will cease to exist (period) when they die that they will hold on to any thing that gives them the glimmer of hope in immortality. They will strive so much for this immortality that they will believe something with all of their hearts that can not be proven (outside of dying) and say "well I have faith."
Originally posted by mojo4sale
Originally posted by GreatTech
List one or more reasons. I will list three:
1) Atheists have different thought patterns: rarely does God enter their mind for the cause and effect of any event.
2) Atheists have different vocabularies: frequently they score a little above average on "standardized tests" but these tests frequently have little to do with Sacred, Spiritual, and religious texts. They are more concerned with knowledge rather than wisdom. They frequently take part in the "selling of the soul syndrome."
3) Atheists' mind's eyes are underdeveloped: they frequently cannot associate the Creation of something as magnificent as the Universe to anything but a human or an atom of hydrogen.
So basically your saying that because i dont believe in a God that i'm.
1. Unable to have any influence on any cause or effect in my life.
2. I'm stupid.
3. I'm unable to appreciate the majesty or beauty of nature.
Originally posted by runetang
Allow me to pose a question or 3 to the Atheists reading. I'd like to see their opinions on these questions.
1) What existed before the big bang? (Nothing is not an answer. If you want to say nothing, simply say 'dark matter')
Originally posted by runetang
2) What caused the big bang to explode?
Originally posted by runetang
3) Where did the molecules within the big bang which exploded outwards in all directions come from? How did they come to be? Did they appear out of thin air? (Not being rhetorical..)
Originally posted by runetang
4) How did the laws of physics, such as gravity and motion, come to be? Why does a heavy object pull things toward it in space, ala gravity? Why don't they push things away instead, like two positive magnets? Where did the 'order of the cosmos' come from..
Originally posted by runetang
5) Where did the first strand of DNA come from? How did it form spontaineously into existance?
Originally posted by runetang
6) What is beyond the universe, which contains every star and solar system in existance? Certainly the universe cannot be never-ending, certainly it must have boundaries, because it is expanding at an ever increasing rate. If the universe is getting larger in other words, moving outward in all directions, what is it contained within? It must have boundaries if it is getting bigger. Something with no boundaries cannot become larger or smaller, because boundaries define size.
Originally posted by HIFIGUY
Or you can be an Atheist and do whatever you want too...
Originally posted by HIFIGUY
Christianity has made its own bed based on its actions through history and was warned in scripture.
Originally posted by GreatTech
Originally posted by mojo4sale
So basically your saying that because i dont believe in a God that i'm.
1. Unable to have any influence on any cause or effect in my life.
2. I'm stupid.
3. I'm unable to appreciate the majesty or beauty of nature.
mojo4sale, I am not saying that you are anything like the things you stated.
Originally posted by Royal76
They lack faith, and the courage to believe in something bigger than themselves. It real easy to say I don't believe, its alot harder to have faith.