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What Aliens know about our Nuclear Weapons.

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posted on Feb, 18 2007 @ 09:38 PM
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That in the event of a intergalactic war they could shut us down quickly.

March 16, 1967- Malmstrom Air Force Base-USAF Headquarters Strategic Air Command-

According to Robert Salas- who worked underground- He received a phone call from security that a red glowing orb was hovering over near the base. Then another phone call later from a scared security officer who said that the Orb was just outside the gates. Then 10 of the 221 minute man missles in their inventory went off line. Later after taking the missles apart it was found that they had been fried with an EMP like weapon

www.nicap.org...

1975- Not sure of date- 5 major US bases Housing our Nuclear arsonnell Malmstrom/ Falcon Bridge (Ontario)/ Loring AFB (Maine)/ Wurtsmith AFB (Mich)/ Mynot (SD)-
Airforce Base space was being violated by a series of aircraft that should not have been there. They were tracked by radar. Many attempts by ground troops, fighter jets, failed to track or spot them. The situation were so chaotic and out of control that the base called Great Falls, Montana's police force for help.

www.nicap.org...

NORAD initiated an investagation and concluded it must be the Russians. Most observers who talked under the radar said that it seemed like the craft were testing our readiness in the event of an attack.

This is just two that I have mentioned. Its kind of scary how easily they made our military look ordianary.

Rendlesham Forest/ Suffox, England: www.ufoevidence.org...

After Chernobyl: www.nicap.org...

A good site that talks about the UFO/ Nuclear connection

www.nicap.org...




posted on Feb, 18 2007 @ 09:50 PM
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Alright this is way out there maybe, but I am wondering. I have always heard nuclear equals ufo sighting\event. And I am wondering if the radiation nuclear stuff causes makes the atmosphere wacked out enough to make ufos visible. maybe they are there the whole time, and the radiation makes xray through their cloaking devices...sorta makes them seem naked in a sense.



posted on Feb, 18 2007 @ 09:56 PM
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That could be plausable that the radiation would interfer with either their cloaking systems, or laser shields. I have ofter wondered if maybe all the radiation residue might have caused Roswell, etc.



posted on Feb, 18 2007 @ 09:58 PM
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I agree with that seems so random. as if some freak accident just sent ship haywire all of a sudden. maybe someone or some people purposely set it off like that to happen.



posted on Feb, 18 2007 @ 10:20 PM
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Was it was just a test to see how well they were shielded. Because the nuclear weapon is such a destructive force that it has probably been abandoned by futuristic civilizations. They were probably cut off guard that someone would use such a weapon.

Or on the other hand maybe their technology went the other way, and they never considered making this tech into a weapon.

Just a thought.



posted on Feb, 18 2007 @ 10:54 PM
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They're engines maybe nuclear powered...
...And they may have away of hovering and refueling..A nuclear engine would make a lot of power..Just a tought..



posted on Feb, 18 2007 @ 11:54 PM
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I agree there definitely seems to be a connection between nuclear weapons and UFO activity - the Rendlesham Forest Incident also comes to mind, since nukes were also (unofficially) being stored at the Bentwaters AFB.

I don't suppose it's really surprising - it's only natural they would take an interest in our most powerful weapon systems, especially if these UFOs are from a military rather than civilian source. Doesn't necessesarily mean they are hostile or planning an invasion, although obviously for our military forces if their security is being compromised (which it appears it is) it's a source for concern (despite official claims of "no defence significance").

I disagree with any suggestions that they may not have such powerful weapons of their own however - assuming they have had interstellar travel for some time and are not at the dawn of their space program they likely have weapons far more destructive then anything we could create. I'm thinking of anti-matter nukes with gigaton yields or black holes contained by strong magnetic forces - real solar system destroying stuff. Of course if their knowledge of biology is as advanced as their knowledge of physics I'm sure they could engineer a family of viruses to wipe out every human on the planet in very short order - they've had plenty of time to study our genetics after all.

Given this it's perhaps not surprising that those in the know choose to keep their presence a secret (although I personally believe that we have been warned by the ETs not to disclose their existence, which is slightly worrying) - what are they going to say? "Yes, they exist. Yes, they've been abducting people for experiments. No, there's nothing our military can do about it - we're completely at their mercy. Try not to worry about it". Not very reassuring really is it?

From my perspective, we really have no choice but to play the game by their rules. If they want their existence kept a secret, then government agencies will continue to cover-up and discredit any attempts at proving otherwise. Meanwhile we'll keep pouring billions of dollars into research/reverse engineering in a desperate attempt to gain technological parity (or at least enough to give ourselves a fighting chance). It reminds me a bit of North Korea developing nukes in order to gain "respect" (or a bargaining card) amongst the world powers.



posted on Feb, 19 2007 @ 01:35 AM
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I have heard of ICBMs having their tracking number scrambled and essentially rendered useless by UFOs. I have seen a video of an ICBM test at vandenburg that had a UFO fire some kind of beam weapon at it, of course it had a dummy warhead.

I have also heard of UFOs over nuclear installations in russia which activated the launch sequence on their ICBMs. Somehow, they were shut off before they actually launched. I remember the Russian Strategic Rocket Forces being concerned because, in order for the ICBM launch sequence to begin, the correct launch codes had to be put into the computer. This would mean that the UFO had inputed the correct launch code somehow or bypassed the system altogether.

I dont know why UFOs seem to be intent on starting a nuclear war, but tinkering with ICBMs is what I would consider a threat. IF they accidently caused the ICBMs to launch, that would be the end of our civilization.



posted on Feb, 19 2007 @ 05:16 AM
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Originally posted by sonicology
what are they going to say? "Yes, they exist. Yes, they've been abducting people for experiments. No, there's nothing our military can do about it - we're completely at their mercy. Try not to worry about it". Not very reassuring really is it?


I actually do find it reassuring. If all that they have done is just abduct a few people for research, then big deal. They could have wiped us out if they wanted to, but they haven't. They've also taken a few people with them to keep, so be it. We're another species on the predatory rung.

Mankind has done far worse to other species that we have studied on this planet. Look at what the Japanese do to whales in the name of research!

I don't feel threatened that on the off-chance I might cop an anal probing from an alien in the name of their research.

We've only got to be worried in case they want to invade - in which case, our nukes are just toys. We shouldn't have war-nukes on the planet, they're a disgrace to all educated, peaceful people.



posted on Feb, 19 2007 @ 05:33 AM
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The Chernobyl excert grabbed my attention, and went to read more.


"...about one month before the Chernobyl disaster I had a talk with an air traffic controller of the Kharkov airport. He told me that, according to pilots' reports, there was a rising number of UFO observations in the area of the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Station (ChNPS). Later it became known that on the night of the fire in the ChNPS, some 3 hours after the explosion, a team of nuclear specialists saw in the sky over the station a fiery ball of the color of brass. The witnesses estimated its diameter as 6-8 meters and its distance from the burning nuclear reactor No. 4 as some 300 meters. Just before the observation these specialists measured the level of radiation in the place where they were standing. It was measured at 3000 milliroentgens per hour. 'Suddenly two bright rays of crimson color extended from the ball to the reactor... This lasted for some 3 minutes... The rays abruptly faded and the ball slowly floated away in a north-westerly direction, towards Byelorussia. Then we again looked at our radiation monitor. It displayed only 800 milliroentgens per hour...'"

Just thought you'd like to know.
Jerry Washington
Former State Director,
Kentucky/MUFON


If you give this statement the benefit of doubt, it still raises some interesting things.

The craft did not completely get rid of all the radiation, if it did it would be world news!!, even with out the UFO sighting.
Something doesn't sound right with the above external exert, even if it does make fun reading.

Great subject matter.



posted on Feb, 19 2007 @ 07:12 AM
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I am thinking that if they are here and they are not interacting, maybe they have abducted or maybe they have interacted, and found that they are radioactive, and are in the best interest of both them and us that they keep there distance for the health of both until some other solution comes about. This could prove them being nice and respectful. But so sad that they cant talk to us directly. reminds me of the common person with the common cold...who does not stay home...



posted on Feb, 19 2007 @ 08:00 AM
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My opinion is that the aliens are trying to tell us, "look, look at what we can do to your little childish toys. Put away your childish weapons because they can only serve to destroy humanity."

I really think they are just trying to tell us their is no need to have these types of weapons.



posted on Feb, 19 2007 @ 08:18 AM
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I guess it is possible that some of our own secret technology and aircraft were being tested near some of these bases. Possibly the thinking being that bases with nuclear technology would be the best guarded.



posted on Feb, 19 2007 @ 10:11 AM
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From the way that I have heard it the ET's don't want US to blow ourselves up using nuclear weapons.



posted on Feb, 19 2007 @ 10:26 AM
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I started a thread a while ago:

Visitors may not have had Nuclear Technology.

www.abovetopsecret.com...


I always wondered about the civilizations right here on earth that have had certain technological advances, but ignored others. Like the Egyptians and the Wheel.

This made me wonder if it would be possible that these, "possibly" more advanced beings might have made great strides in certain technologies, like travel via Gravitics, Magnetism, even worm holes and such, but never went down the path of the "Nuclear Bug" as far as we have.

Maybe they just never had to. Maybe they didn't want to. Maybe they are some kind of race of "Idiot Savants". But, I think "Nukes" may be strange to them. Even though, electrically, they are able to shut them down. I don't think, from what I have read and watched and heard, that they can do anything about the process involved in fusion or fission. I think they can fry the electronics, and that's about it.
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posted on Feb, 19 2007 @ 11:46 AM
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Well, w.r.t. Chernobyl, the plant would have been emitting many radioactive substances with short half-lives and complex decay chains. Contrary to popular belief, there was a fast-neutron criticality explosion triggering the disaster at Chernobyl so there would be a pulse of short-lived fission products.

I don't know for sure, but conceviably the observations could have been only the result of natural physics. The change could have been the result of enough of the prior radioactive atoms decaying into a new state which emitted different kind of radiation. And it is not surprising that the radiation dropped quickly either.

The radioactive fireballs of nuclear detonations are known to show many strange and unusual colors according to eyewitnesses, things which are not easily captured on film, and presumably the result of similar interactions of fission products with the atmosphere.



posted on Feb, 19 2007 @ 12:49 PM
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This is an interesting topic.

I for one think that cloak and dagger missions are soley a man made (human) endeavor. It's no secret that the United States has ultra secret aircraft technologies. The idea of MADD is a good one - and I think the united states very well might be developing technologies to disable nukes remotely, before they can even be launched. It's not out of the realm of realistic possiblities.

I do however agree with the hypothesis that aliens, if they do exist, do not want our governments to disclose their existance, for many reasons. I also think our governments are in agreement with them. Wether you agree or not, MANY people around the world would not know how to react to full disclosure. Even in this day in age, I know people who whole heartdly believe in God, that we are his creations, the only creations in the universe. And if their faith, something these people have believed in who-heardtly their entire lives, were called into question - there would be hysteria. Even now, in our day in age.

This is the very reason why I believe there are more and more advertising, marketing and generally more exposure to aliens. Commercials like Mercury Insurance being aliens - etc etc. I believe everything you see and hear about Aliens are being used to acclimate us to the existance of otherwordly beings. Mass media has an extreemly powerful reach nowadays - and its the perfect medium for acclimation to a certain, very sensitive subject. If you can get the majority of the population to even accept the possiblity of ET's, then I full disclosure will happen.

Personally I think it'll happen in our lifetime (i'm 27 now), so we'll see



posted on Feb, 19 2007 @ 01:13 PM
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I remember a UFO case, shown on the History channel or something. Where a UFO somehow destroyed a nuke being stored at some kind of base. Lemme see if I can find a link 'bout that.

TD



posted on Feb, 19 2007 @ 03:06 PM
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Originally posted by Royal76
That could be plausable that the radiation would interfere with either their cloaking systems, or laser shields. I have ofter wondered if maybe all the radiation residue might have caused Roswell, etc.


Slightly off topic just to add another theory there.. that Roswell may have been caused by the Phillidelphia experiment, if it existed? flicking those switches, maybe they could have used it to bring the craft down out of the future..



posted on Feb, 19 2007 @ 06:35 PM
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I was back and forth from Nellis AFB to Bentwaters AB ,from 1980-83.
With new F-16A&B's (the base itself had only non nuclear A-10's).

This was called our Forward Operating Base for a possible war with the Soviet Union. The reason was our A/C were nuclear capable.

We would come for a month at a time .( And the locals would demonstrate outside the base when ever we would arrive ,cause they new ).
It was never told to us either ,but it was the biggest (at that time and may still ) Nuclear hardened underground bomb dump in England.

Thing was we would here stories when we would come in each year TDY ,
about the things that we no now that happened there .

But I'll never forget the last time that I was there in Feb. 1983 on the flightline (I myself was a Weapons Crew for 8 years in the USAF ).
So we would have live load exercise with the B-61 weapon ,2 man concept,no load zone ,SP's guarding our roped off F-16's ,the usually things when special weapons were present .

We had like a 30 min wait on the weapon coming from the bomb dump,and I was standing there with my load crew talking to the SP's.

They were all standing around ,and one made a coment that it might not work ! anyway ,I'am like what ? He says ( you don't no ? the ufo's are puting them all out of action ) because of the stories of the light's that we had alrerady been told in the woods . And I said ,man you better not let anybody hear you say something like that ! and then he starts laughing ,and tells me he's only kidding ,and then gave me this weird look .

I've told that story for 25 years now !.

But just think if it was found out that nuclear weapons around the world were a farce ,and they had been made inoperable ! All of them .

That sure would be the greatest secret of this world



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