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The ATS Thread Flagging System


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Topic started on 18-2-2007 @ 05:26 PM by SkepticOverlord


The Cunning Use Of Flags For a Better ATS



There is a new feature on ATS we've hinted about, and some members have already noticed: Thread Flagging. The new flagging tool appears on all threads, and looks like this:


Very similar to the ranking systems on DIGG and delicious, it enables you to flag threads you feel are important or interesting. Once you've flagged a thread, you cannot re-flag or remove your flag... you can only flag once:



Conquering The Web With Flags


While this might seem like a simple ranking system, it's a major aspect of giving our members control over new and important pages on ATS.

Before, during, and after the "Dark Matter" redesign, we engaged a lot of people for comments on the overall design, look-and-feel, and user experience of ATS. While we had a lot of positive comments on the new design, and forum layout on the board home page, we still have a significant problem for novice users, and users wanting to quickly gauge what's important on ATS -- the discussion board layout is designed for experienced users... not new users.

So we've been tackling the problem of:
1) How to better present the ATS home page, forum groups, and forum thread lists.
2) How to do #1 without "editorial bias" in a way that reflects the membership
3) How to do #1 and #2 without time-consuming effort so it's always fresh

The solution, Flags!

Each member who flags a thread increases its overall importance as compared to threads with fewer flags. We're developing brand new "home" pages for these:
1) Site home
2) Forum groupings
3) Forum thread listings

The new pages will provide a "short hand" version of what's hot, new, and important from all of ATS, down to individual forums. Your flags will have the most important influence on what is included in these new pages, and how the content is ordered and structured.

For the first time, you our members, will have direct influence on what appears on the home page. (timeliness and thread post-count will also have an important factor)


What's Next


Over the next two weeks, we'll be working on the design and layout of these new pages (we're not altering existing pages), and making any needed refinements in the flagging system.

After that, the ATS content presented to users who come to these new home pages is completely up to our members.



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reply posted on 18-2-2007 @ 05:36 PM by Lysergic


Well it's got a picture of the Izzard, so it can't be too bad

" "What is it, Lieutenant Sebastian?" "It's just the rebels, sir. They're here." "My God, man! Do they want tea?" "No, I think they're after something more than that, sir. I don't know what it is, but they've brought a flag." "Damn! That's dashed cunning of them!



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reply posted on 18-2-2007 @ 05:41 PM by Mechanic 32


Seem like it might just be a good idea!

You guys might as well go ahead and close the thread I started inquiring about the flags...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Since this official announcement is up.

No need for the redundancy.



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reply posted on 18-2-2007 @ 05:42 PM by Implosion


Simple question: Would it be considered poor form to flag one's own thread?



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reply posted on 18-2-2007 @ 05:45 PM by Mechanic 32


I do have one question:

Is the flag column going to be put on the individual Forums thread list as well, or is it only going to be showing in the "Recent Posts" list?



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reply posted on 18-2-2007 @ 05:55 PM by marg6043


Interesting concept I guess I will be flagging all over now.



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reply posted on 18-2-2007 @ 06:10 PM by Justin Oldham


Thread flagging sounds like a good way to see what the ATS membership thinks is important. It may give you more insight in to the tastes of those who post here.



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reply posted on 18-2-2007 @ 06:14 PM by Nygdan


Originally posted by Implosion
Simple question: Would it be considered poor form to flag one's own thread?

Heck no. Consider that we have thousands of people viewing these pages. One flag won't make a critical difference.



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reply posted on 18-2-2007 @ 06:16 PM by Mechanic 32


Originally posted by Justin Oldham
Thread flagging sounds like a good way to see what the ATS membership thinks is important. It may give you more insight in to the tastes of those who post here.



This brings up something else...

What about gangs of trolls and sock puppets? How would this affect the overall "ranking"?



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reply posted on 18-2-2007 @ 06:16 PM by ArMaP


I think it's a good idea.

And what about negative flags, to mark those threads that are just garbage? I know it's harder to control but it could be a good thing too.



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reply posted on 18-2-2007 @ 06:20 PM by Dragonlike


One thing i must add:
This forum always keeps me surprised



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reply posted on 18-2-2007 @ 06:21 PM by g210b


hm nice but
where is the overview page that contains the top 100 flagged threads?

Somehow I miss something or haven't found it yet...



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reply posted on 18-2-2007 @ 06:21 PM by Mechanic 32


Originally posted by ArMaP

And what about negative flags, to mark those threads that are just garbage?


Speaking for myself of course. I can say that one mans garbage may well be another mans gold.

Take certain large threads in one of the more controversial forums here. There are many participants who would flag that thread, while the mainstream users here may not.

It's all a matter of opinion sometimes.

my 2 cents



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reply posted on 18-2-2007 @ 06:24 PM by conspiracy_101


How about points per flag, any incentive for getting more flags?



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reply posted on 18-2-2007 @ 06:26 PM by SkepticOverlord


Originally posted by g210b
where is the overview page that contains the top 100 flagged threads?


Since we just started flagging, there's no point in such a thing yet.



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reply posted on 18-2-2007 @ 06:39 PM by masqua


I think this is a great idea. It gives each individual member the ability to vote for what they'd like to see prominently displayed on the Home Page.


Excellent



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reply posted on 18-2-2007 @ 07:10 PM by wellwhatnow


Eddie and ATS! What a combination!!! I love it!!!

Great job - I look forward to seeing the results from this. ATS is making some great changes and this is what keeps ATS on top.



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reply posted on 18-2-2007 @ 07:27 PM by Jbird


Hmmm... gonna take some time to reprogram my brain, me thinks.

Anybody else keep mistaking the Flag column for the Replies column, now?

Old habits die hard, I guess.



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reply posted on 18-2-2007 @ 08:10 PM by Mechanic 32


Originally posted by Jbird
Hmmm... gonna take some time to reprogram my brain, me thinks.

Anybody else keep mistaking the Flag column for the Replies column, now?

Old habits die hard, I guess.




Seek and you shall find.

It appears that the mysterious powers that be, had listened to your call.

The flag column has been moved.

I am glad to see that also.




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reply posted on 18-2-2007 @ 08:26 PM by Jbird


Sweet, hope it was as easy as it seemed, SO.

Dang , my knee's is gettin' sore, tonite!



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