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Vision of John Lennon in Hell

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posted on Feb, 16 2007 @ 01:23 PM
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Document of Alleged Visions

No ... I do not believe these are real visions.
I am passing them on to ya'll to discuss.

Apparently there are seven youths who are claiming that Christ appeared to them and showed them Heaven and Hell. The original text is in Spanish and has been translated to English.

Apparently one of the youths claims to have seen John Lennon while he was being shown Hell. Lennon asked Christ to let him out; Christ said no; and then Lennon (allegedly) blashemes Christ for not letting him out.

I have linked to the Hell 'vision'. You can click on the Heaven 'visions' from the site.




posted on Feb, 16 2007 @ 02:21 PM
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It was a "demon" disguised as Christ that they saw... The bible is quite clear that "demons" can take on any form that they wish in order to deceive the masses.

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posted on Feb, 16 2007 @ 02:24 PM
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Paints a pretty grim picture of what God is like. It's amazing how many will read their "testimony" and take it at face value. It's all according to the great deceiver's plan though. :shk:



posted on Feb, 16 2007 @ 02:53 PM
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Well, I thought that's where all hippies go...
Just kidding.
If this supposed vision of Christ had it out so hard for "drunkards", then why did he drink wine. Oh yeah this vision is from a group of kids in Mexico....the same people who see the Virgin Mary in their toast and in a spot of mold on the wall. Don't get me wrong, I belive in God and Christ, but this sounds like another work of propaganda to scare the kiddes away from beer and those evil homos



posted on Feb, 16 2007 @ 03:14 PM
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I read the link and agree with others that demons could very well portray/pretend to be 'others' in hell.

You know, everyones perception of hell/heaven may be unlike what 'actually' occurs at the end/beginning of one's existence.

From what was described in the link, it sure isn't 'a walk in the park and getting mugged' scenerio. Far from it. I sure wouldn't want any of that happening to me or anyone else.

As far as seeing Mr. Lennon in hell? Hmmmm...

Of all characters that could 'pop-up' in ones travels, why discuss him?

Hitler wasn't mentioned, or any other nasty prominent character in our past.

What we 'deem' to be evil of a persons traits, was personified in hell.

I don't doubt that people have 'visions' relating to the here-after, however, according to the link provided, the only big celeb or big-named individual that came up was John Lennon.

Don't get me wrong or anything, I'm just wondering if there might have been a 'bias' towards this man or whatever.

The link provided other generic names with stories entailling, however gut-wrenching the tales were, you have to think, why mention John Lennon?

Some of you might say: "Why Not"?

And my question is: "Why just mention this man, when these 7 children ventured into the depths of hell"?



posted on Feb, 16 2007 @ 03:18 PM
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John didn't get to heaven
We can't imagine why
No harp for Lennon
He got no wings to fly
The poor old former-Beatle
Went the other way... oohoooo

Imagine down in Hades
There's a demon or two
Singing along together
"Instant Karma got you!"
They've got John on a brazier
Toasting for their teas... oohooo

Now poor John is a-screamin'
And a-roasting on a spit
Instead of leading God's chorus
Who would've ima-a-agined it!



Sorry, bit of sick humour..



posted on Feb, 16 2007 @ 03:30 PM
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Well, to say that these "visionaries" don't have an agenda is like saying that lobbyist don't. It seems to me that these "visionaries" have presented Christ in a very trite and even diabolical manner. I have to say that I don't believe a word of it.



posted on Feb, 16 2007 @ 03:31 PM
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Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Paints a pretty grim picture of what God is like.


That's EXACTLY what I came away with reading this 'revelation'. I know that God's judgements are different than human judgements' and all that .. but YIKES! This was absolutely a horrid depiction of God .. why would anyone want to worship a God that was like the God depicted in that 'vision'???

What happened to eye hasn't seen, ear hasn't heard ??
It's not possible to see the real heaven and live to tell about it.
If you see the beatific vision of God in heaven there is no way you
would be able to stand coming back to this (yuk) planet. The brain
and soul would die in agony of having to be back here. IMHO



posted on Feb, 16 2007 @ 03:36 PM
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If you read further down in Sandra's "testimony" it has people burning for eternity for not giving their tithes......C'mon. "Better pay up or you'll have demons climbing up your backside forever and you'll be hangin out with Lennon". I don't know about you, but my God doesn't extort cash from me with threats of fire. So according to this "vision" you can be a saint your whole life, but if you don't hand over a fiver on Sunday ya gonna burn!



posted on Feb, 16 2007 @ 03:40 PM
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Originally posted by shai hulud
" it has people burning for eternity for not giving their tithes


I noticed things like that. And the depictions of heaven and hell were ... for a lack of better words .... worldly. There wasn't anything etherial about them. Heaven and Hell were textbook right out of the fire and brimstone WORLDLY view of these places.

I suppose they COULD be like that. But I really doubt it.

Anyways .... that 'burning in hell for not tithing' .. I'm surprised that there wasn't a pay-pal link to send your donations.



posted on Feb, 16 2007 @ 03:41 PM
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Flyers, I would say so.

I don't think I have to reiterate my whole opinion about the doctrine of "hell," I am sure you have seen it more than once. The modern day vision, I say modern, it's existed probably for the last 500 to 600 years, at least, of "hell" is a frightening one indeed,as was the plan. I am not saying that we go unpunished, but I just don't see the God that I love doing to people what many say he will.

Christians have certainly emblazoned the idea of "hell-fire" upon the mind of the populace... However, when one examines church history and the motives behind such ideologies, it becomes apparent what the whole "hell-fire" threat was intended for.

I kind of rebuke people who claim to have "visions" such as this because it states to me that, if it is true that they "saw" such images, then that must mean that their life is not necessarily in order either. So why believe them?

Like I said, I'd lay you odds that these, if they occurred at all are nothing more than "demonic" images. There is nothing more that Satan would like than for the masses to think that God is this cruel, maniacal being that is all too eager to throw his creation into the pits of some "fiery hell." Believe me, he'd love for the masses to believe that.




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posted on Feb, 16 2007 @ 03:55 PM
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Exactly folks!

Burning in hell for NOT tithing?

Now that strikes a very WRONG chord with me.

For those that can't afford to tithe, and to be burned in hell for it?

Like I said, it's getting rediculous at that point.

Sounds like scare tactics to me.

Then look at my previous post about John Lennon.

Why single him out?



posted on Feb, 16 2007 @ 03:58 PM
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Duckster, that's a very good question. How about Joseph Stalin? Since all of these people are "burning in hell" I would assume someone like Joeseph Stalin, who murdered anywhere from 20 to 80 million people, are amongst them as well,eh? I am like you,Duckster, it sounds like a Church sponsored scare tactic to me. I may be wrong, but that is what it appears to be to me.



posted on Feb, 16 2007 @ 04:08 PM
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Speaker of Truth?

Thankyou!

That was the whole point of the topic of this thread.

If those children went to the depths of hell and were 'shown hades scenerios', then why bring up John Lennon; or rather what they percieved to be the 'dead-unsaved-soul of John Lennon?

Of all well-re-knowned individuals, one would want to have people take example, why SINGLE OUT John Lennon?

Hitler, Stalin, et al; - the epitomy of so-called-evilness? Why were these children allowed to see a ROCK ICON such as JOHN LENNON? - and have this man portrayed as evil enough to be in hell?

Sorry, but it sounds like bias to me?

Any comments?



posted on Feb, 16 2007 @ 04:16 PM
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Originally posted by TheDuckster
it sounds like bias to me?


Sounds rather suspicious to me as well. John Lennon may, or may not, be in Hell, but I highly doubt these seven individuals were given a Sunday-stroll-thru-Hell type tour like that which was talked about.

That's the feel i got from reading it. Like Christ was taking these 7 people on a stroll through Hell and He seemed to be oblivious to what was going on around Him ... even oblivious to the terror that the 7 people with Him were feeling.

Very strange. I admit that none of us knows the mind of God, but I found this to be very odd.



posted on Feb, 16 2007 @ 04:17 PM
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eye done let Lennon free.

i let John go
John is free
just so you know



posted on Feb, 16 2007 @ 04:20 PM
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Originally posted by skjalddis
John didn't get to heaven
We can't imagine why
No harp for Lennon
He got no wings to fly
The poor old former-Beatle
Went the other way... oohoooo

Imagine down in Hades
There's a demon or two
Singing along together
"Instant Karma got you!"
They've got John on a brazier
Toasting for their teas... oohooo

Now poor John is a-screamin'
And a-roasting on a spit
Instead of leading God's chorus
Who would've ima-a-agined it!



Sorry, bit of sick humour..

you're a dick.



posted on Feb, 16 2007 @ 04:45 PM
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I might freak out If I was taken to Hell even for just a visit. Yoko Ono is to blame, he's probably there because (besides not believing) of marring her and destroying the Beattles.


But all and all I don't believe that Jesus will leave them in Hell. I think Hell is being with out god. To be shown God's love then have it taken away would be Hell enough for anyone.

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posted on Feb, 16 2007 @ 05:06 PM
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Originally posted by skjalddis
John didn't get to heaven
We can't imagine why
No harp for Lennon
He got no wings to fly
The poor old former-Beatle
Went the other way... oohoooo

Imagine down in Hades
There's a demon or two
Singing along together
"Instant Karma got you!"
They've got John on a brazier
Toasting for their teas... oohooo

Now poor John is a-screamin'
And a-roasting on a spit
Instead of leading God's chorus
Who would've ima-a-agined it!



Sorry, bit of sick humour..


LOOOOOOL!!!!!:


LMFAO!!!!!
lol:

that was a classic, two thumbs up.



posted on Feb, 16 2007 @ 05:13 PM
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His flesh was almost completely destroyed and what was left of his clothes were muddy and burning. He had lost his eyes, mouth, and all his hair from the fire...

...The Lord, in His great mercy,


Mercy, what mercy is there in that? Thats for being an alcoholic, I dread to think what being something worse than that gets you.


The Billboard read, "Welcome all liars and gossipers." At the end of the slide was a small boiling lagoon. It looked like burning brimstone. Then I saw a totally naked person coming down the slide. As they slid, their skin would peel off and stick to the slide. When they fell into the burning lagoon, their tongue expanded until it exploded and worms appeared in place of the tongue.


Yes, i am beginning to feel that this is a scare tactic like the russians drilling down to hell was at this point. Speaking of which:


I grabbed His hand and we started to descend down that tunnel. The tunnel grew darker and darker to the point that I could not even see my other hand,


Sounds like we are supposed to believe hell is in the earth then. Have these people never heard of Plate tectonics and the structure of the earth?


I didn't want to believe it, but I believe it now! Now I believe that this is real! Please Lord take me out of here, at least just one moment!


So forgiving and merciful, i don't think. Honestly, if this were the case, why bother, you're pretty much damned if you do and if you don't. No forgiveness once you have the proof, but when you have no real proof either way you get forgiveness? Hmmmm.

I will also have to say, I agree, where are the truly evil people, such as Hitler, Stalin or Mao in this? Their punishment must be really bad in this vision.



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