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What I love about the rest of the NON US Countries of the World.

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posted on Feb, 16 2007 @ 08:50 AM
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1. That you ALL or so good at spreading the Love when you need our help.- I mean lets face it, nobody but you the rest of the world is great at getting on your knee's when you need to. Throwing Parades, Your ladies really, really do love Americans.

2. That I know when you are in a tough situation you will ask us for help Say you got involved in this war, and now somebody else owns your whole country, or is about to. You guys always know the right thing to do, call us.

3. That when you just had a natural disaster, you don't have to call US we always call you . You already know we have people who have been University train on alert to help you. So we will call and say we would like to help you. I love that you already know.

4. That when are having money problems, you know to beg us to cancel your debts to us . You know us, you know we are suckers to a good sob story, and will cancel, suspend, or really prolong payment when you owe us something. Especially when the shoe is one the other foot, and you would demand payment Immediately.

5. That when we have EVER needed help, you sure and nobody came .

6. That you always know when we screw up, because we tell you Our newpapers are the finest in the world at sniffing a coverup out.

7. That You guys have always seemed like family to us . Even if you act like the jealous brother who lacks the class to act like a human being.

8. That you are so quick to judge us while you spout at the top of you lungs how great the leaders of your country are. No matter what sesspool you call home.

9. That the moment our backs are turned you would put a shiv if you could , but you don't because you are afraid, you've seen what's happend to others who have tried.

10. That if the shoe was on the other foot, you would let the world burn

That just some of the stuff:


The only problem I have with everybody else is their military. I've never seen a finer class of people than the ones who serve our military. Why can't you say the same.




posted on Feb, 16 2007 @ 04:58 PM
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"The Truth Hurts"..."You can't Handle the truth"....But it is good to see that you have recognized my truth and can't refute it.



posted on Feb, 17 2007 @ 05:07 AM
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You can also love that the rest of us don't really take offence at other people's rants and either call for their a) death b) hanging c) silencing or d) sanctioning.

Have a good day



posted on Feb, 17 2007 @ 08:23 AM
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Originally posted by subz
and either call for their a) death b) hanging c) silencing or d) sanctioning.


Not sure what you mean by that ... but if you are talking to ROYAL then - that 'death' and 'hanging' part is against the rules of ATS. It is most definately can be viewed as a threat.



posted on Feb, 17 2007 @ 01:28 PM
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Hi Royal, well I dont want to disapoint you.

1) I'm sure the Iraqi's and Afgani's are well chuffed at the love your spreading in those countries.

2) Which wars are you talking about, Us Europeans did not need your help in WW1, as usual you came in at the end.
WW2 the US Goverment allowed the Japs to attack PH so you could get involved in the war which they knew would put them in a super power status at the end, especially when the whole thing was planned. And contrary to American beliefs the US did not win ww2 the Ruskies had the Germans well beaten.
America's race for atomic weapons was not for the purpose of taking the Japs out, that was jsut to see if they worked, the US was worried that the Soviets were going to role right across Europe.

Korea, again your paranoia with communism so you drag everyone else into the conflict.

Vietnam, an ass wuppin by men wearing pyjamas.

Former Yugoslavia we were there before you.

Iraq1 & 2, all about Oil and security for Israel, countries that dont come down on your side you either bribe or threaten.

Somalia, Another ass wuppin.

3) What you mean like Katrina when others had to help you.

4) You only do this if you can get something out of it and more to the point you give Israel more money than anyone else and not a penny paid back.

5) The US has had the help of many countires over the years, it just dossent like admitting it.

6) Untrue your mainstream media dose not actually report about whats going on in the world and what it dose say is biased towards the US.

7) Thats only a perseption, and none are jealous of the US, Most Americans lack culture and a good level of intelligence, and a passport.

8) Many countries have long cultural Histories with highly developed societies, such an attitude smacks of gross ignorance.


9) No one has attacked America and to say you are untouchable again smacks of gross ignorance, one does not have to fight wars to bring a country to it knees.

10) The world got along fine long before America was ever heard of, again such arrogance and ignorance is deafening. And the world will continue to do so after America recedes from the high table.

Some extra points

11) Sometime before PH the US sold its soul to the devil.

12) America's Foreign policy is about carpet bagging for the already rich and powerful. Most of the money made from war etc. goes in their pockets and the average American gets nothing other than the loss of loved ones.

13) America is in so much debt now that if the loans were called in the country would be bankrupt.

14) The American people have allowed their Goverment to murder its own people, Waco, Oklahoma, Ruby Ridge and 9/11 and there the ones we know about.

15) The American people are allowing a jackass to tear up their constitution, introduce draconian legislation which can remove their rights and freedom.

16) The American people have allowed their Goverment to wage wars of aggresion on those who do not pose a threat.

17) You tell us how powerful and strong you are but never go it alone.

18) If others dont support you their cards are marked.

19) Americans live in poverty and on the streets while billions are given to Israel.

20) A young nation and its people that showed so much promise is going down the pan and nobody seems to be concerned.



posted on Feb, 17 2007 @ 10:52 PM
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As a Canadian, I could feel somewhat saddened by the short-term memory loss of the help we have given to our southern neighbours.

Remember 9/11? Where did all those planes in the air go when they couldn't land in the US? Canada.

What nationality were those complete strangers that myself and hundreds of other Canadians took into our homes so they didn't have to sleep on the floor of an airport after their country had suffered a horrific attack? They were American.

After Katrina, where were the first rescue teams with boots on the ground from? Canada.

I don't expect thanks, we did it because it was the right thing to do. I do expect to not have to hear about how we never help out, because it just isn't true.



posted on Feb, 18 2007 @ 08:38 PM
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subz

The only people being hung and be.ed, etc are by are friendly neighborhood radical muslims.

The only whopping the United States of America has ever taken was by themselves.

Korea- Lack of vision by a President who pulled MacArthur

Vietnam-Started by the French and screw up by a President who refused to actually fight the war

The rest have been skirmishes that were not wars.

If at any time we had actually wanted all out war, we would have won.

Just keep telling yourself that you are right...Its the only thing your fragile little worlds can take.


By the way I like Canada. We Import some of the finest women, and hockey players from there. Plus they did help. Most of my rant was
for Europe and the ME.



posted on Feb, 19 2007 @ 02:49 AM
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Originally posted by Royal76
Most of my rant was for Europe and the ME.

Perhaps you could have made that clearer, and spared yourself the karma of being unnecessarily and unthinkingly offensive to so many people in so many other parts of the world. Instead of taking the time and trouble to choose our words, you chose instead to carpet-bomb us all with your insults.

Such insensitivity is very much in line with what people have come to expect from America in recent times.

By the way, my country sent yours money after Katrina. Only a few thousand dollars, admittedly, but then it's a small, poor country. And you've got so much money already...



posted on Feb, 20 2007 @ 08:53 AM
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Royal My fragile world is your fragile world or are you that delluded that you think you live on a different planet.

And you can brag all you want but you still dont have the ballls, you rely on technology to fight your wars which is a bad mistake as seen in past conflicts and the current one, coulped with the fact that your troops arent the best there is and your leaders are weak overall and your populace cannot stomach the casulties. All truths in my world but obviously not in yours.

In life one has to recognise ones weakness's rather than fooling yourself into everything is fine. America's role on the world stage has a relatively short shelf life as you will soon see.

And if your leaders really wanted all out war then you would not last 5 minutes, I know thats hard for you to accept but history has shown us that even the greatest fall and fall hard never to rise again.

But looking on the brightside when your country is bankrupt and piss poor we the Brits will still help our old friends out as we have always done, I mean were running the country anyway, well the Europeans that is. I hope you can handle all this truth I dont want you having nightmares.



posted on Feb, 20 2007 @ 09:04 AM
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I'll be honest, I think your post is a stereotypical hyper-patriot spew which the rest of the world is sadly becoming to believe is what the United States stands for, and I believe the below quote is one of the most hypocritical things I've read so far this year.


Originally posted by Royal76
8. That you are so quick to judge us while you spout at the top of you lungs how great the leaders of your country are.


Your post smacks of an over inflated hyper-patriot ego which views other countries as inferior and as sharpening their knifes ready to stab you in the back as soon as you show weakness.

Can you truly blame the world for being fed up with the interfering actions of your Government, can you blame the world for wanting change?

I raise my drink to those in America who view other country's as country's and not as potential future foes, I'm no anti-American diehard I view people as people and in each country there are those who need to get off of their flag draped high horse and stand eye to eye with people and actually look what the world is truly like.


[edit on 20-2-2007 by UK Wizard]



posted on Feb, 20 2007 @ 01:07 PM
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Originally posted by UK Wizard
I raise my drink to those in America who view other country's as country's and not as potential future foes
[edit on 20-2-2007 by UK Wizard]


Hear hear!

And Duzey, the rest of the world thinks Canada's cool! I think it's only the USAers that disrespect and take the p*ss out of you lol



posted on Feb, 20 2007 @ 01:59 PM
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posted by Royal76

subz: The only people being be.ed, etc are by our friendly neighborhood radical Muslims. (A) The only wupping the United States of America has ever taken was by themselves [alluding to the Civil War?].
(B) Korea - Lack of vision by a President who pulled MacArthur. (C) Vietnam - Started by the French and screwed up by a President who refused to actually fight the war. . (D) the rest have been skirmishes that were not wars. If at any time we had actually wanted all out war, we would have won. (E)
[Edited by Don W]




(A) I wish we Americans would not use “Muslims, Islam” and other religious terms so disparagingly. It helps feed the ignorant notion of a war of cultures, a war of civilizations, a war of religions as advocated by B43.

(B) A long time ago we said we lost more men in the Civil War than in all other wars combined. Here’s my count: War of 1775-1783, 15,000. War of 1812-1814, 10,000. War of 1846-1848, 5,000. The War of the Rebellion, a/k/a Civil War, 650,000. The Great Plains War on the Indians, about 2,000. Spanish American War, 1898-1899, 5,000. War of the Philippine Insurrection, 1900-1905, 2,000. [We distinctly lost that war which was waged against Muslims on Mindanao wanting independence from Catholic Manila. It goes on today.] First World War, 1917-1918, 135,000. War on the Red Russians, 1920-1922, about 2,000. [We were allied with the UK and Japan here. It also failed.] More than 25 armed incursions by our “enforcers” the USMC, into many Central American republics, China and Haiti, the last which we occupied from 1918 to 1933, and about which we still “boast” is the poorest nation in the Western Hemisphere. About 2,000 men KIA. Second World War, 450,000. Korean War, 45,000. Our part in Vietnam’s “10,000 Days War of Liberation,” 59,000. Granada, Panama, Somalia, and other unknown involvements around the world, about 250. Gulf War 1, about 120 men. Mostly by “friendly fire.” Afghan, about 300. So far. The Second Punitive Expedition to Iraq, 3,140 KIA and counting. I can safely predict the last American fighting man will leave Iraq by late spring, 2008. I wonder who will get the “distinction” of being the last man killed in Iraq? Should we erect a monument to him? Perhaps in Crawford, Texas? Pay his survivors the now standard $1 million? What do you think?

The number is 628,000 at the end of War 2. But, adding the Korean total brings the total to 673,000, thus exceeding the total of Civil War dead. Note: only 240,000 men were KIA, the remainder were WIA, sick or diseased and died in hospital or died in prison camps.

(C) In November, 1950, 5 star Gen. MacArthur wanted to nuke the Chi-Coms. Mao had just won the civil war over Chiang Kai Chek in late 1949, and Mac saw this as an opportunity to reverse Mao’s win and put China in its proper place. The Russkies had just detonated their first atom bomb in 1949 and so, would not have enough bombs to really pose a counter threat to the US. Truman, who in 1945 had ordered the atom bombing of Japan as his first great decision after becoming president did not want to do it again. He fired Mac for disobeying orders relating to the Yalu River.

(D) Ho Chi Minh was offered independence for Vietnam after War 2, by the OSS, if he would wage guerilla war against the occupying Japanese who had gained control of French Indo China from the Vichy Government. Ho did just that and kept 3-4 divisions of Japanese soldiers out of the war. As Tito had done in Yugoslavia against Germany. After the liberation of France in 1945, the Socialist government under Pierre Mendes France consented to the arrangement. Shortly thereafter, that government fell and war hero Charles deGaulle’s anti-socialist Christian (say Catholic) Democratic Party gained control and reneged on the deal. After making the classic military blunder - not securing the high ground - the French Foreign Legion - mostly ex-War 2 Germans - was bested at Dien Bien Phu. Americans were beguiled by the Dulles Brothers - John Foster as Secretary of State and Allen W. as Director of the Central Intelligence Agency - who persuaded Gen. Eisenhower - then president - that the Domino Theory required we - the US - defend the French interest in Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia. 59,000 KIA later, we decided the Domino Theory was not so bad after all.

(E) Denial is not a river in Egypt.


[edit on 2/20/2007 by donwhite]



posted on Feb, 20 2007 @ 03:10 PM
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posted by magicmushroom

Hi Royal, well I don’t want to disappoint you.
2) Us Europeans did not need your help in WW1, as usual you came in at the end. WW2 . . contrary to American beliefs the US did not win WW2; the Russkies had the Germans well beaten . . America's race for atomic weapons was not for the purpose of taking the Japanese out, that was just to see if they worked, the US was worried that the Soviets were going to roll right across Europe. [Edited by Don W]



2) Part A. Actually M/M, I believe you are wrong here. The UK, France and Germany each ended the war losing around 3 million men, KIA. About 1/3rd of the men of marriageable age. The Russians lost more men but sued for peace after Lenin’s revolt overthrew the Tsar. The Germans were beginning to realize trench warfare was not going anywhere, but the Allies’ leadership was plainly bumfuzzled. The French soldiers had to mutiny to get the attention of their High Command, but the Brits High Command was no better though their soldiers did not mutiny.

Pres. Wilson sent Gen. Perishing to France with orders that no American soldier would fight under foreign command. We were not going to be replacement gun fodder in the trenches. We finally had 1.5 million men in training in France at 11 AM on 11/11/1918. We lost 135,000 KIA. We ended the war. The Central Powers knew the Americans had more manpower to draw on. Therefor, the Allies won. The Republicans in the US Senate would not ratify the Peace Treaty and thus, France along with GB imposed a peace on Germany in 1918-1922 that led straight to Hitler in 1933. I can’t give you any mercy on this one, Mr M/M. As some say, WW2 was the LAST battle of WW1.

Part B. Well, let me remind you the Russkies lost 500,000 men in the Battle of Berlin. That’s a lot of casualties to lose to a “defeated and beaten army?” I accept that the Battle of Stalingrad was the turning point of WW2 in Europe. Clearly, the megalomania of Hitler caused that. But there is no point in what-if’s.

Part C. Au contraire, Mr M/M. Expatriate Jewish scientists from Hitler’s Europe and many others feared German scientists could use Norwegian heavy water to make an atomic bomb. In 1940, Einstein agreed to sign a letter to FDR asking him to take countermeasures. FDR ordered the Manhattan Project, the largest Federal program undertaken up to that time. It included building from scratch Oak Ridge, Tennessee, 15,000 population; Los Alamos, New Mexico, 10,000 population; and Hanford, Washington, 15,000 population.

To wire the transformers needed for gaseous separation of uranium at Oak Ridge, we used 10,000 TONS of silver - copper was in short supply. Because FDR had built the TVA and the Columbia River Power Authority in the 1930s, the US had sufficient surplus electric capacity to make it go. 10% of all electric power generated in the US from 1942 to 1945 was devoted to the Manhattan Project which gave us 3 bombs. Because neither Germany nor Japan had such huge quantities of available electricity, I contend neither could have made an atomic bomb with the knowledge then available. It was more than one year after VE Day, May 7, 1945, that the Russian say Soviet Army was replenished in men and materials. The Red Army was shot, expended, after Berlin. They were not going to roll across Europe then. Maybe later, but not in 1945.

Part D. We did not “test” the bombs on people of color, the Japanese. We did it because of the Battle of Okinawa. The US Navy lost 5,000 men KIA in that battle, the most the Navy has ever lost in a battle. We had lost 7,000 KIA capturing Iwo Jima and 20,000 taking Okinawa. Our battle plan called for 500,000 US Army to land on Shikoku - smallest of the 4 main islands - around November, 1945, to be followed by the landing on the east coast of a peninsula forming Tokyo Bay of 1,000,000 men by next March, 1946. The US Army Logistics Command ordered 1,000, 000 body bags.

This is my version of the truth.



posted on Feb, 20 2007 @ 04:34 PM
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posted by magicmushroom

Hi Royal, well I don’t want to disappoint you.

2) Korea, again your [American] paranoia with communism so you drag everyone else into the conflict. Vietnam, an ass wuppin by men wearing pyjamas. Iraq1 & 2, all about Oil and security for Israel. Somalia, Another ass wuppin. [Edited by Don W]



2) Part A. It is generally agreed that Kim Il Sung acted alone when he crossed the 38th parallel into South Korea on June 25, 1950. The USSR had walked out of the UN earlier and was not present to block the UN Resolutions that the US and its allies acted under. The PRC was almost certainly not consulted prior to the invasion. The political clean-up in China was continuing, the Nationalists having been expelled from the mainland in late 1949. China only came into the war in November, 1950. The Chinese had warned the US (indirectly) not to come closer to the Yalu River than 50 km or about 30 miles.

MacArthur wanted a war with China, and went right up to the Yalu River. The Chinese did what they said they would do, entered the war with “Volunteers” who pushed the UN forces back to the 38th parallel with heavy casualties on both sides. From then - mid 1951 - to July 23, 1953, the peace talks at Panmun-jon proceeded. (I have stood on the DMZ line overlooking Panmun-jon, by the way.) Pres. Truman was right to stop aggression. The UN agreed with him. He was right to avoid a war with China. It has long been a West Point maxim not to engage in a land war in Asia.

I have already written about Vietnam. I want them for allies. They are great people. I am not terribly happy about the rich ones who fled here after 1975, because they represent the worst in any society. Imperialist lackeys. They took our bribes and are now in the upper class here. Hmm? War criminals at home.

Part B. Mr Paul Bremer American Pro-curator of Iraq, negotiated sweetheart contracts with American (and maybe British) oil companies, then left Iraq. Mission accomplished.

Part C. I like Israel. I remember (vaguely) when Pres. Truman and our UN GA Delegate, Mrs. Eleanor Roosevelt, Dame of the New Deal, managed to get the UN to recognize the nascent state of Israel in 1948. I’m not Jewish but the pictures of the liberated Nazi death camps are impressed forever on my mind. Like too many American people in 1948, we did not realize - and those who did cared not - that the land we were giving to one group already belonged to another group. “Zion” was a place we were most familiar with in a church song, “We’re Marching To Zion” which we thought meant going to “Heaven.” Well, my first “second look” came in the 1967 Six Days War and the USS Liberty.

I have finally changed my viewpoint. I see the Israeli Government is engaged in ethnic cleansing. It is in long time violation of the UN Charter under which they ironically claim legitimacy. As rich Cubans in Florida control American foreign policy towards Cuba, so rich Jewish persons in America control America foreign policy toward Israel and the Middle East.

Part D. Yes, Mogadishu. A sad memory for Americans. We were there to help the UN feed the hungry people in the countryside. The criminals were either capturing the food outright or collecting tolls for safe passage. We planned to capture the leader of the major criminal gang. We missed and it cost us dearly. I believe Pres. Clinton was right to quit the mission. He knew we could lose a lot of men, kill a lot of innocent people, and end up in no better position than if we stayed away. Wisdom prevailed over hubris. Thanks, Bill, and here’s a $20 bill for Monica tonight.


[edit on 2/20/2007 by donwhite]



posted on Feb, 20 2007 @ 05:35 PM
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Its nice to see so many different opinions. Especially from sides who whine all the time about how the US is the root of all evil in the world.

Yes UK Wizard I am a patriot. Should I not be...What would I be worth, if I weren't one.

[edit on 20-2-2007 by Royal76]



posted on Feb, 20 2007 @ 05:51 PM
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Royal, thank you for doing your part to make Americans look arrogant.

Thank so much. *sighs*



posted on Feb, 20 2007 @ 06:47 PM
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Weither or not I'm arrogant changes nothing. The other countries will always blame the US for everything bad that happens to them. The bottom line is Jealousy. Thats all it is, that all it will ever be.



posted on Feb, 21 2007 @ 01:24 AM
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Royal76, can I ask you to please keep your thread civil. There are terms and conditions you signed up for to be allowed to post here, I suggest you review them at your earliest convenience. There is no place for belittling others on my forum. Please focus on your topic, rather than on your fellow forum members.



posted on Feb, 21 2007 @ 03:13 AM
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Royal the problem of being patriotic is that it is making you blind to the truth, are you patriotic or just well brainwashed by the system, how much do you travel outside of the US what other cultures do you know and understand.

Do you really believe that the peoples of the world go around each day saying oh I wish I was an American, no they dont most people are proud of their own countries and their roots, patriotism for you has made you ignorant of everything but your own country and way of life.

You can still be proud of your own country but it is wrong to think yours is the only one that matters and your attitude provides those who wish to criticise with all the ammo they need.

But keep living in your bubble because very soon its going to burst.



posted on Feb, 21 2007 @ 04:31 AM
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Originally posted by Royal76
Yes UK Wizard I am a patriot. Should I not be...What would I be worth, if I weren't one.


There's nothing wrong with being a patriot, but saying you'd be worth nothing if you weren't one now that gets me some what worried.

Patriotism does not deem your worth, you as a person not your patriotism deems your worth.

In my eyes there are two forms of patriot, the first is the flag waving "my country is better than yours simply because its my country" patriot, the second (and in my opinion the best) form of patriotism is someone who steps back and says look at all this ill within my country I will not stand for this, I and others like me will change it.

Patriotism is one of the life bloods of the masses, you must criticise what you follow if you are ever to progress as a nation and resist tyranny.




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