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Sandia secret base: Does it really exist?

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posted on Nov, 8 2007 @ 09:11 PM
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You really gotta wonder how a high speed rail like that could be kept secret. Wouldn't it put off seismic waves or what have you?




posted on Nov, 8 2007 @ 09:27 PM
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Not Necessarily if the high speed train is deep enough beneath the surface and runs down a vacuum tube it would be a relatively quiet propulsion system. Go to your bank you will see a mini vacuum tube transportation system in progress. With advanced technologies that the elite have at their disposal who knows, maybe John can share some light on what propulsion system he thinks they use for the high speed train. Rik Riley



posted on Nov, 8 2007 @ 11:54 PM
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Originally posted by rikriley




Not Necessarily if the high speed train is deep enough beneath the surface and runs down a vacuum tube it would be a relatively quiet propulsion system. Go to your bank you will see a mini vacuum tube transportation system in progress. With advanced technologies that the elite have at their disposal who knows, maybe John can share some light on what propulsion system he thinks they use for the high speed train. Rik Riley


Thanks for the post RK. No I don't know what the propulsion system is.

The problem of transporation to Sandia was trying to keep a secret how many people worked there. It has been operational since 1987 and keeps getting bigger and bigger as new facilities are added.

They didn't want to call attention to Sandia by adding extra flight or planes to Special Operations which fly the 737's. There are highway tunnels that lead there but it is a little over a hundred mile drive. Too long and too far for the average commuter.

So they built a high speed train which travels under the entire test site and which has several stops. The Vegas end has several stops under major hotels and the reasoning here was that workers could park anonymously and walk in unnoticed to a secluded alcove or shop, enter an elevator to which only they have the combination of access and descend down to the train level.

I don't know the speed of the train but I hear it is extremely fast.

Thanks for the post.



posted on Nov, 9 2007 @ 01:30 AM
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Just watched the George Knapp special on Area 52.

My apologies to George, I didn't believe Area 52 existed but in fact, it does. Thats what they officially call the Tonopah Test Range. He showed the documents to prove it.

I only got a 30 second (or less) part where I talked about the F-19. The F-19 has been pooh-poohed by the best, but in fact it existed. It was the airplane that General Bobby Bonds was killed in in 1984. (No, it was not a Mig 23.)

The second part of Georges report will be shown tomorrow night in which he promises "wild allegations" will be presented. I can't imagine who he is talking about or who will hurl those "wild allegations".



posted on Nov, 9 2007 @ 02:39 PM
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Originally posted by SkipShipman
You always retain your God given rights. The Constitution was put there to insure that governments would be observant of that as a matter of trust.

Somehow I find that very hard to believe. If a government had some part in the 911 conspiracy, for example, then any Constitutional rights are not worth the paper that they were written on.

Silencing a disillusioned worker in a secret military facility would be nothing compared to the murder of 3000 people, right?

I also find it somewhat amusing to read the words 'government' and 'trust' in the same sentence, especially when the first word is supposed to imply the nature of the second.


When they violate that, they are no longer a valid government, and the Constitution itself is divided between its granting of their office and their dissolution of observing your rights.

That goes without saying. So, what are we going to do about it? Trying to bring them down legally won't work, considering the whole system is stacked to support them. Remember, they can do what they like to maintain 'National Security'.



posted on May, 23 2009 @ 04:14 PM
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yes it exists...i even know someone who works there.



posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 03:17 PM
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Originally posted by johnlear
Originally posted by rikriley




Not Necessarily if the high speed train is deep enough beneath the surface and runs down a vacuum tube it would be a relatively quiet propulsion system. Go to your bank you will see a mini vacuum tube transportation system in progress. With advanced technologies that the elite have at their disposal who knows, maybe John can share some light on what propulsion system he thinks they use for the high speed train. Rik Riley


Thanks for the post RK. No I don't know what the propulsion system is.

The problem of transporation to Sandia was trying to keep a secret how many people worked there. It has been operational since 1987 and keeps getting bigger and bigger as new facilities are added.

They didn't want to call attention to Sandia by adding extra flight or planes to Special Operations which fly the 737's. There are highway tunnels that lead there but it is a little over a hundred mile drive. Too long and too far for the average commuter.

So they built a high speed train which travels under the entire test site and which has several stops. The Vegas end has several stops under major hotels and the reasoning here was that workers could park anonymously and walk in unnoticed to a secluded alcove or shop, enter an elevator to which only they have the combination of access and descend down to the train level.

I don't know the speed of the train but I hear it is extremely fast.

Thanks for the post.

Hi John, huge fan of your aviation history and achievements. Thank you for your service!

Quick question regarding the above post, in which you mention (highway tunnels) that lead to/from the NTS (now referred to as the Nevada National Security Site, or N2S2. Where exactly do these tunnels start out? Like, where would one enter said tunnel to begin their 100 mile drive?

Thanks!



posted on Jul, 26 2015 @ 01:39 PM
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I know this thread is very old, but I came across This PDF regarding waste management facilities would this not explain the underground facilities, security, and etcetera? True, if the government wanted to create a secret base, what better way than to use this all as an excuse. Personally, as far as all of the suspicious activities posted in this thread, seem to be quite explainable via the above PDF link.



posted on Jul, 26 2015 @ 02:04 PM
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originally posted by: CynConcepts
I know this thread is very old, but I came across This PDF regarding waste management facilities would this not explain the underground facilities, security, and etcetera? True, if the government wanted to create a secret base, what better way than to use this all as an excuse. Personally, as far as all of the suspicious activities posted in this thread, seem to be quite explainable via the above PDF link.


250 some pages. Beside the perched water from the bore holes around Yucca Mtn, why do you feel this is related to a secret base. ps, nice back pack, if your ever down here in Albuquerque, I know of some beautiful campsites near Taos.



posted on Jul, 26 2015 @ 02:52 PM
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Throughout this PDF, there is detailed specific discussion on the processes being taken in putting in the nuclear waste underground facilities. This all was occurring during the same timeframe and basically describes all of the underground tunnels, transporting, and private security measures. I didn't go into detail responses to each and every poster, being this was such an old thread. I thought those interested in this subject, whether they think there is secret base or are just curious, would find the detailed information and data in the PDF effective in furthering their current research projects.


Edit add: I am not one for known campsites. I love hiking and camping wherever I please. Its the rebel in me.
edit on 7 26 2015 by CynConcepts because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 26 2015 @ 02:54 PM
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originally posted by: Violater1

originally posted by: CynConcepts
I know this thread is very old, but I came across This PDF regarding waste management facilities would this not explain the underground facilities, security, and etcetera? True, if the government wanted to create a secret base, what better way than to use this all as an excuse. Personally, as far as all of the suspicious activities posted in this thread, seem to be quite explainable via the above PDF link.


250 some pages. Beside the perched water from the bore holes around Yucca Mtn, why do you feel this is related to a secret base. ps, nice back pack, if your ever down here in Albuquerque, I know of some beautiful campsites near Taos.

Agreed. There are some fantastic places by Las Vegas too.

Nice to see someone else from Albuquerque on here!



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