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what are you suggesting that its ok for him to get a mortgage on his as yet unearned income, but what he "might" earn when out of office? well thats a new way to get round the 3 x your salary mortgage that "normal people have to rely on when applying .
You simply have a set of views in accordance with your political beliefs.
which is and are what sminkey?
Originally posted by spymaster
I dont care who is in government i just want all this S**t to STOP!!!
Originally posted by ubermunche
I don't see why people should have to 'give something back' or in some way justify their right to a peaceful existence just because they want to be able to walk a street in safety, or feel safe from criminal activity. Most people work hard and keep the law, that should be enough justification.
Originally posted by timeless test
I understand why you take that stance but, unfortunately, we have to deal with reality and not an idealised view of the world.
The fact is that small disruptive influences in a complex system like a Western liberal democracy can cause disproportionate disruption because of the high levels of individual freedom and trust that we generally enjoy. The decent members of society, (to use a simplistic description), therefore have a simple choice, do they accept disruption and wrongdoing and complain because some other entity like Government is not doing enough or do they try to influence the situation. The wrongdoing is an inevitable fact the question is how do we deal with it effectively.
Fundementally I don't believe that Governments can change society, certainly not in the short term. What they can do is facilitate and encourage change by incentivising certain patterns of behaviour and disincentivising others which is a help but it's not the whole story. I believe that only society at large can enforce change, it rarely does it consciously just as the descent to some of our present woes has not resulted from a conscious decision to allow lawlessness and lack of personal responsibility to permeate so many of our communities, but rather from a genearl apathy towards certain standards of behaviour.
If we, society at large, can begin to reverse that apathy and accept the personal responsibility of each of us to contribute to our communities rather than just to ourselves we still have a chance to reverse many of the bad things we see around us. It won't be quick and we may never be able to directly link change to the specific actions that each of us has taken but if we all just wait for someone else to do it then there will be no change.