One for discussion..., page 1

I havent done a damn bit of looking at this one, it's from www.ufoevidence.org, and was submitted by a guy who's wife found this series on the net...they are yet to find them again, and no one knows where they came from.

I'd be interested in what you all think. I have no knowledge of them whatsoever, but they do look alot like Walter's UFO from the Gulf. I find the idea of the UO being some distance away...at least as far as the far branch on the tree....

...interesting no?









There's another one like this out of Canaima, Venezuela, it's black and white shot and rather grainy.

If you think it's hoaxed, tell us why.

Ok, fairly difficult to find by its self........I WILL FIND THEM!!!!

But for now, I've found this, and you'll have to settle for directions


Ok..... look at the MIDDLE of the picture....se the CIRCULAR ORANGE BLOB?

there is FOUR of those craft together, just under the orange blob.....theres also one DIAGNALLY BOTTOM LEFT from those four.

I would like to find the origionals of these, if only to match up the similarities between each craft....

Ill keep searching...but for now.....heres the "montage".

Dont think i can embed the pic so ill inclued the link....


[edit on 15-2-2007 by Anomic of Nihilism]WHY DOSNT THIS WORK!!!!!

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[im]http://www.untoldmysteries.com/0-dec-2004/Worldwide-UFO's-1024x768.jpg[/im]

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Hmmmmm...

STILL looking for a DECENT pic(s).......

So far, i have found this site...(bit poor really)..... this has four pics of the same craft, starting from the second row down.

The second pic in the four on this site is quite interesting, because of the light reflection/glare off the floor....

But again, proberbly fairly easy to say that its solid, silghtly harder to say REAL, in the sense of a REAL UFO, alien or other wise....

Ill keep looking

Woops, forget to add the link.

Similar craft, from second line down

[edit on 15-2-2007 by Anomic of Nihilism]

Ok......

I have FINALLY found some images of similar, if not, exactly the same design.

Im gonna embed just 1 pic to start with.... if that works, ill then edit post to include the others.




[edit on 15-2-2007 by Anomic of Nihilism]

Cool it worked..... here are the others.....




I dont suppose those origionals you posted were by "Ed Walters" were they? He seems to have taken a FEW pics of this object...hmmMmm.


And HERES that one with the light glare on the ground, although, the object looks almost see through.


If i find others....and i KNOW theres more, ill post em.

[edit on 15-2-2007 by Anomic of Nihilism]
EDITED to add..... all those pics are found on this web site, on the SECOND page
THIS SITE

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HEY......i look to hours later, and all my pics have gone

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ED WALTERS seems to be a little bit blessed when it comes to photographing wierd objects.....

Hers another little gem from his collection....



And this is what you get when you run his name through google image search..

Google Image search....ED WALTERS

Interesting stuff....

Ill leave it at that for now, give you a chance to reply, otherwise this thread'll be 10 pages long and you wont want to read it

Peace my man

Originally posted by Anomic of Nihilism

It seems likely that this is just a very well timed photo of a jet breaking the sound barrier.


A photograph of the sound barrier being broken by a US Navy Jet as it crosses the Pacific Ocean at the speed of sound just 75 feet above the ocean. Condensation of water is caused by the rapid expansion and consequent adiabatic cooling of air parcels induced by the shock (expansion/compression) waves caused by the plane outrunning the sound waves in front of it. Shot by John Gay from the top of an aircraft carrier. The photo won First Prize in the science and technology division of the World Press Photo 2000 contest.

As for the other photo's, digital analysis probably won't solve them. It's most likely a model cleverly suspended from the tree branches - or a structure above the trees that's out of camera shot. It looks a lot like a ceiling fan without the blades...

Well at the moment im TRYING to see (as i am pretty sure) if it was on a documentary called "Nick Cook - UFOs The secret evidence".....

Are you talking about the "Project Silver Bug" part of that doc...great documentary by the way, love that one, anyhoo, if that's what you're talking about well here ya go...hey whadya know tinwiki:

tinwiki.org...

Is there nothing atsers can't do?

As for the photos They are pretty and do look like the craft from the ed walters photos but as stated before ed walters is suspect.

Much like billy meier there was talk of someone finding a model of one of ed's saucers so who knows.

Jritzman could answer this better than I but with the craft behind the branches it seems like an attempt at false perspective.

The craft doesn't seem too far from the tree so how big could it be...or am I just having a hard time judging distance.

It looks much smaller than the ed walters saucers, but again it could be my eyes more than anything.

I knew a kid in high school that used to make his own rc craft with mylar...he was a big brain type o'kid and made everything from blimps to bi-planes with mylar and that was in the early/mid eighties.

Not that one has anything to do with the other but I would say you have to rule out all possibility of hoaxing...which unfortunately in this day and age is incredibly tough to do.

Just my two cents.

Spiderj

Very interesting photo, but the more I look at it (one's in OP), the upper portion reminds me of a torque converter, found in automatic transmissions.

I can't say whether it's real or not but thought I'd throw that thought into the ring.

Here's a couple of converter images to show you what I mean.

Um about Ed Walters


Not sure what to make of it but I thought I'd add that to the conversation.
~ Cheers

Originally posted by Renshin
Um about Ed Walters


Not sure what to make of it but I thought I'd add that to the conversation.
~ Cheers

Renshin,
Yup, I know all about that. There's more then several issues about the supposed "model" found, which anyone can read about on the net.

I'll say this about the original Gulf Breeze photos, from the book "The Gulf Breeze Sightings": I held the original photos in my hands, and they look nothing like what one would expect. For instance, the road shot (probably the most famous of all Ed took) there is no UFO to be seen. What you see is a small orange elipse maybe the size of a pin head. Thats it. Only after processes were run on the Polaroids (such as emulsion examinations and subsequent emulsion leveling where a scope can look into the emulsion and extract visual data which was then in turn light blasted.) was the craft structure even visible. You see none of that in the originals. I mean none.

So, if theyre faked, they sucked. And I dont see anyone faking crappy looking non-descript photos with models that are only detectable in the photo with high end imaging equipment....much less going public with them.

There is always the chance. I never had the oportunity to examine the photos in any in depth capacity, but I remember being shocked at how lousy they really were and what they showed in hand before any enlargement and light blasting were done.

I also saw footage Walters shot many years ago long before the advent of any CG stuff, that showed an object that for all intent and purpose was completely "alien" to anything we've seen. It moved with such ridiculous speed when it left the frame of the video (from standing still to full speed at NO acelleration) that the actual speed calculated was if I recall right, was 6K mph approximately. It was truly absurd.

Ed was, also not the only person to video that object. To this day, to the best of my awareness the public has never seen this footage.

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