Patriot 2 act was signed by bush!!!!!

I just read an interesting e-mail I got. I will post the e-mail for people to read.

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While Saddam was Captured: Stealth enactment of the "Patriot II"
legislation
Various Sources

While CNN and other media outlets are rejoicing because of the capture
of Saddam Hussein, Bush again introduced new legislation last Saturday
which increased the federal powers to investigate and reduces the
privacy rights of American citizens :

H.R. 2417, INTELLIGENCE AUTHORIZATION AGREEMENT OF 2004
Whitehouse Statement on HR 2417 (December 13, 2003)
www.whitehouse.gov...
HR 2417 was cleared by the Congress on November 21, 2003
www.cbo.gov...
Comments of Ron Paul, Congressman for Texas on HR 2417 :

It appears we are witnessing a stealth enactment of the enormously
unpopular

"Patriot II" legislation that was first leaked several months ago.
Perhaps the national outcry when a draft of the Patriot II act

was leaked has led its supporters to enact it one piece at a time in
secret. Whatever the case, this is outrageous and unacceptable. I urge
each of my colleagues to join me in rejecting this bill and its
incredibly dangerous expansion of Federal police powers.
www.fas.org...

Bush signs bill extending FBI powers
Associated Press
WASHINGTON -- President Bush has signed legislation making it easier for
FBI agents investigating terrorism to demand financial records from
casinos, car dealerships, and other businesses.
The changes were included in a bill authorizing 2004 intelligence
programs.

Most of the details of the bill are secret, including the total cost of
the programs, which are estimated to be about $40 billion. That would be
slightly more than Bush had requested.
Bush signed the bill Saturday, the White House announced.

The bill expands the number of businesses from which the FBI and other
US authorities conducting intelligence work can demand financial records
without seeking court approval.
Under current law, "national security letters" can be issued to
traditional financial institutions, such as banks and credit unions, to
require them to turn over information. The bill expands the definition
of financial institution to include other businesses that deal with
large amounts of cash.

Supporters of the change say it will help authorities identify money
laundering and other activities that fund terrorism. But some lawmakers
and civil liberties advocates say the change does not provide enough
safeguards to ensure that authorities will not violate the privacy of
innocent people.
In other provisions, the bill:
Requires the CIA director to prepare a report as soon as possible on
what intelligence agencies have learned from their experiences in Iraq.

Creates a Treasury Department office to work with intelligence agencies
on fighting terrorist financing.
Creates pilot programs to share raw data between agencies.
Authorizes agencies to continue research on computerized terrorism
surveillance suspended by the Pentagon.

I can not believe Bush signed the Patriot 2 act and the media was too busy covering the Suddam capture stuff.

Maybe the entire story is bull#? Did that possibility ever cross your mind? Maybe you shouldnt belive EVERYTHING you get from fringe news sites.

What do you expect? they have milked the war on drugs for all they can now its the war on terriorism. ANY reason to take our rights, and the sad thing is most Americans are too fat and lazy to see what is happining. I am a lot less scared of a terrioist or drug addict than I am of our own Government.

it is a perfect opportunity to sneak something liket his by. I wouldn't put it past him. Besides the majority of people don't even know what the patriot act or patriot 2 is. I work at a bank, and we cannot adjust a customers address to a po box per patriot act regulations. We must have a physical address on file...pretty soon we won't be able to do anyhting in this country,.

Langolier, did you bother to go to the .gov sites that say when it was signed? It also has more information at the .gov sites. Last time I checked .gov sites were a reliable source.

Originally posted by ilovepizza
Langolier, did you bother to go to the .gov sites that say when it was signed? It also has more information at the .gov sites. Last time I checked .gov sites were a reliable source.

No I didnt. I probably should have. I saw "Prison Planet" and dismissed it right there. Either way, to be honest. Im not sure that i'm against the patriot act anyway..

Originally posted by ilovepizza
Langolier, did you bother to go to the .gov sites that say when it was signed? It also has more information at the .gov sites. Last time I checked .gov sites were a reliable source.

if i remember correct, the patriot act 2 had a totally different name than what you quoted...

Erm, that whitehouse link basically says he's signed a bill to fund the war on terror for 2004, i dont see anything saying he's signed Patriot 2, i've seen the text of the patriot 2 and it numbers 300+ pages. (342 i think)

Alex Jones... *sigh* He's one of the few people i hope the government would take away.

'nuff said...

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You know congress has to pass this as well. And if the president did sign such n act, not saying he did...But it would subject to congressional approval. I mean the Bicameral congress, not just one portion of congress.

Originally posted by ilovepizza
Langolier, did you bother to go to the .gov sites that say when it was signed? It also has more information at the .gov sites. Last time I checked .gov sites were a reliable source.

Hey ilovepizza,
It's true all right. What a coincidence it happened right around the time Saddam was being paraded before the world, huh? It figures. That's how the Federal Reserve Act was passed, too, way back when. By stealth.
It's some rotten shyte, indeed.

Originally posted by Springer
Consider the source...

'nuff said...

I don't know, I watched "911 - Road to Tyranny" and "Police State 3" and found both to be very compelling and make alot of sense...

Originally posted by JamesLimelight

Originally posted by Springer
Consider the source...

'nuff said...

I don't know, I watched "911 - Road to Tyranny" and "Police State 3" and found both to be very compelling and make alot of sense...

They were very compelling. The official story on 9-11 completely falls apart under the slightest scrutiny. If the mainstream media and network television wasn't bought off by the powers that be, there's no way these monsters could have gotten away with it. Someone, or a handful of someones at the highest levels of our government were clearly complicit in the crime.

This is not Patriot 2...Patriot 2 (as it has been called) is really the "Domestic Security Enhancement Act of 2003" and has been around since January being pushed by ashcroft. i doubt it will ever be passed, or at least not for a while

Originally posted by Shoktek
This is not Patriot 2...Patriot 2 (as it has been called) is really the "Domestic Security Enhancement Act of 2003" and has been around since January being pushed by ashcroft. i doubt it will ever be passed, or at least not for a while

Yeah, but that is the trick, or atleast a theory about it anyway. A theory that seems to be coming true unfortunatly though. Since the exposure of Patriot Act 2 earlier this year and the resistance to it, it is theorized that now the Officials will break it down into individual pieces and slip each little piece into other things they pass instead of trying to do it all at once. Hence, this is a perfect example. They are just going to make it happen one little piece at a time and all sneaky and underhanded too!! Similar to when Congress sold our Money to the Federal Reserve on Chrismas Eve in 1918. Sneaky Underhanded Bastards I tell ya!!

Originally posted by mOjOm

Originally posted by Shoktek
This is not Patriot 2...Patriot 2 (as it has been called) is really the "Domestic Security Enhancement Act of 2003" and has been around since January being pushed by ashcroft. i doubt it will ever be passed, or at least not for a while

Yeah, but that is the trick, or atleast a theory about it anyway. A theory that seems to be coming true unfortunatly though. Since the exposure of Patriot Act 2 earlier this year and the resistance to it, it is theorized that now the Officials will break it down into individual pieces and slip each little piece into other things they pass instead of trying to do it all at once. Hence, this is a perfect example. They are just going to make it happen one little piece at a time and all sneaky and underhanded too!! Similar to when Congress sold our Money to the Federal Reserve on Chrismas Eve in 1918. Sneaky Underhanded Bastards I tell ya!!

All we can do is hope some people in power will see it our way, but that is a slim chance........i was tripping out for about the last 3 minutes staring into your avatar....

Abracadabra! Here's one of the finest men in congress -Congressman Ron Paul, (R) from Texas discussing this issue. I sho wish he'd run for president.

Bush Cabal Hides Patriot II Police State in HR2417

Rep. Ron Paul/Rep Dennis Moore

Mr. Speaker, I rise with great concerns over the Intelligence Authorization Conference Report. I do not agree that Members of Congress should vote in favor of an authorization that most know almost nothing about--including the most basic issue of the level of funding.

What most concerns me about this conference report, though, is
something that should outrage every single American citizen. I am
referring to the stealth addition of language drastically expanding FBI powers to secretly and without court order snoop into the business and financial transactions of American citizens. These expanded internal police powers will enable the FBI to demand transaction records from businesses, including auto dealers, travel agents, pawnbrokers and more, without the approval or knowledge of a judge or grand jury.
www.prisonplanet.com...

Sorry that I said the patriot 2 act was signed by bush, just a part of it. If the pass the Patriot 2 act piece by piece it will be harder for them to all be appealed. I am going to be a lawyer after college and law school, and then I hope I will make it on the supreme court. It may be about a 1 in 100,000,000 million chance of me making it on the supreme court but I can hope. I am going to change things from the inside one way or another.

It is true they are passing it piece by piece. And you ignorant #s who think CNN, Fox, ABC, NBC, etc is a good news source wake up it's controlled media not government controlled but corporate controlled which in a fascist state is the same. You no longer can trust American news sources period. Only 6 companies own all of the media in this country WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by EastCoastKid

The official story on 9-11 completely falls apart under the slightest scrutiny. If the mainstream media and network television wasn't bought off by the powers that be, there's no way these monsters could have gotten away with it. Someone, or a handful of someones at the highest levels of our government were clearly complicit in the crime.

Well, I have to do some research on this, but I heard somehwere that bin Laden and Bush actualy have known each other for sometime. The CIA trained him, for christ's sake. I mean, come on. There is no way in hell that with all the defense we have in this country that someone in power didn't know this was going to happen. Someone HAD to have given bin Laden the go ahead. Like when Hitler burned down the Reichstag, so is Bush creating a pearl harbor in 911 to further the cause of the NWO, which is headed by the Omega Agency, which Bush Sr. has a high ranking seat on. You tell me.