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Waivers to Army recruits with criminal backgrounds double from 2003 to 2006

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posted on Feb, 14 2007 @ 11:06 AM
This story outlines that the US military, which currently offers waivers for criminals to join, is doubling their efforts. This appears to substantiate previous findings that the military cannot meet recruiting requirements.
The number of waivers granted to Army recruits with criminal bacckgrounds has doubled in three years, according to press reports on data released by the Defense Department.

"The Army and Marine Corps are letting in more recruits with criminal records, including some with felony convictions, reflecting the increased pressure of five years of war and its mounting casualties," Lolita C. Baldor reports for the Associated Press.

In Wednesday's New York Times, Lizette Alvarez notes that "the number of waivers the military granted to Army recruits with criminal backgrounds has nearly doubled in the past three years, jumping to more than 8,000 in 2006 from about 4,900 in 2003, Department of Defense records show."

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How does this go again....honor, duty, theft of country ? I can't say I'm really surprised by this but given the nature of war and the battleground you would think those on the front lines would be of decent moral character. I'm not implying that a large percentage of the military is otherwise but when you have a person who has committed a felony, is a warzone really an appropriate setting? I guess if your in the Pentagon it is but I can't help but think that for the few that are other there (at least I think its a few) given some of these individuals backgrounds some might look at a combat situation with no regret. It would lighten the load on the judicial systems though.

More importantly I think if the military/US gov't can offer up waivers in situations that best suites them then this same logic should applied to the rest of society. Would it be ok for a convicted sex offender to teach at a school if there were teacher shortages provided they too signed a waiver. I didn't think so.

posted on Feb, 14 2007 @ 02:09 PM

News BBC

t says 824 felons were allowed to sign up in 2004 as opposed to 1,605 in 2006 under the moral waivers scheme.

Almost 59,000 drug abusers entered the military in the same period.

The report, sponsored by the American think tank Michael D Palm Centre, also showed that 43,977 people convicted of serious misdemeanours such as assault were permitted to enlist.

The director of the Michael D Palm Centre, Aaron Belkin, said in all about 100,000 people with what he called troubled pasts had joined the military over the past three years.

About 100,000 people with "troubled" past joind the Army?

I mean we are not talking about Dirty Dozen anymore here!

That is almost the number of US soldiers in Iraq.

Scary numbers indeed....

[edit on 14/2/07 by Souljah]

posted on Feb, 14 2007 @ 02:36 PM
Depending on what they did, I see no reason to bar them as long as it was nothing serious. Everyone has the chance to change, surely?

I agree with this as I was in the same boat myself. In 2002 I enquired about joining the RAF. I have been convicted of a minor crime (common assualt) when I was younger and for some funny reason the rules about declaring the past are a tad odd. If you did time in prison, you only have to declare this for the exact amount of time afterwards (so if you did 2 years, you declare for another 2 years after, etc etc) but if you got a fine (like me, only £450) you have to declare for 10 years, no matter what!

Fortunately, coming from the family background that I do, I did get accepted past the initial selection phase anyway. Decided against joining though as not long after I found out my partner was pregnant.

Thing is, without having someone pulling strings, I would have found it difficult to do a job for which I would have been good at and done well, merely because of a ruckus I had when I was 18 (boys will be boys...)

As i said, providing they have done their time (in a manner of speaking) why should they then be denied the opportunity? Surely giving "ex-criminals" the chance to have a career and reform is the best sort of rehabilitation you can get?

Personally, I think, at least in the UK, that our "chav" problem with anti-social behaviour etc could be solved with a little time in the Army for the young snots....

posted on Feb, 14 2007 @ 08:48 PM
Criminals? Eh, why not -- It's a criminal war.

Drugabusers? Beware all drugs originate from the Orient.
Beside, some contractors involved are reknown for drug peddling.

I would go there too, if I was an addict.

posted on Feb, 14 2007 @ 09:11 PM
I am not surprised. A brother of a friend was accepted into the Reserves despite his manic depression. Sounds like they're really desperate.

posted on Feb, 14 2007 @ 09:24 PM
Judging from replies, I would be safe to assume that once a criminal, always a criminal eh? Nice to see that once you have served your debt to society, the stigma is still there.

Who here can honestly say they have never committed a criminal act? Just because you were never caught or punished, does this somehow make you a better person?

Now, to clarify, I don't doubt that murderer's, rapist's etc should be barred and possibly always watched or tagged for the Public good, but minor criminal offences shouldn't stick with you for the rest of your life, surely?

The military can be a place where these miscreant's can learn some respect and discipline. Why not give nthem a shot at a decent life?

posted on Feb, 14 2007 @ 09:35 PM
I fail to see wht it matters if you have a criminal history or not
when it comes to joining the military.

If you are actually applying to join, than that means you comple-
ted whatever sentence you were given.

If someone wants to go join the military, I could care less about
there past offences.

posted on Feb, 15 2007 @ 07:26 AM

Originally posted by iori_komei
If someone wants to go join the military, I could care less about
there past offences.


Things like Drug Abuse, Rape, Murder do not bother you?

Want to have soldiers, who come and Rape Female soldiers or Iraqi women?

Want to have soldiers, who go to the battle on Drugs?

Want to have soldiers, who have no problem with killing inncent people?

We are not talkinga about a dozen charming criminals here...

But still - just shows what kind of Desperate state the Army is in.

That tells it all.

So where is that DRAFT already?

posted on Feb, 16 2007 @ 07:57 AM
Misdemeanor offenders deserve the title of criminals? Sure misdemeanors deserve minor punishments; the offenders dont deserve the title of criminal in my opinion however.

Now felons are another story. The rise in the felons joining is concerning. Does this country need more Haditha massacres?

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