Barack Obama is he a member ?

7 pages and still no answer for the original topic at hand...

Do you even know what the Weather Underground is? Obama was about 10 years old when they were engaging in their terrorist activities....



No, it's not.

If he is, and at the 32nd degree, then the next step is a Shriner after taking the oath on the Koran. Dont believe me??, the following link explains the steps of the Masons, excellent info and insight.
www.lamblion.com...

The Shrine isn't a "step" after the 32°. It is a separate fraternal organization that Masons can join should they so desire.

Also, Shriners do not take oaths on the Qu'ran unless they themselves are Muslim.

I never could figure out why there are so many GREEK fraternities on college campus. They spank each other with custom wood paddles!. They don't admit women and force blacks to join their own "brotherhood". Seems this whole country is "one nation under Mason". The only way America and American foreign policy makes any sense is if you see it through the eyes of a Freemason!. I think the American feminist women are just a natural reaction to this Masonic value system.
The rest of the world sees America as the 3 F's: Feminists,Freemasons,&Fagots. The French revolution started from these Jacobin clubs in Europe. I think were better off with Capitalistic Masonic Imperialism than British Imperialism but it is still really just the lesser of the two evils. We don't really have freedom we have Masonic freedom, I guess real freedom would mean Anarchy. The whole 11 year prohibition "temperance" movement is a good example of what a Masonic view of freedom really is, they preach temperance at their "Temples". The Catholic church has been watching this secret fraternity for hundreds of years, long before the Masonic U.S. Declaration of Independence. It REALLY IS the oldest secret fraternity! and thats why they don't teach this in U.S. schools.
I have seen a lot of completely ridiculous things about Freemasons on blogs and u-tube, and websites but thats exactly what happens when you keep secrets and discriminate. As far as the whole metaphysical argument goes it's really quite simple: If you are hungary nobody can SEE that, or HEAR that, but that doesn't mean that you are not hungary!. In other words it's where your heads at!, and the next time you drive bye a fast food joint you will probably stop in and grab a bite to eat! but nobody knew you would, probably not even you!. The oldest guide to this metaphysical reality is the Jewish Kabala, and freemasons have embraced this Jewish system of knowledge for hundreds of years! it originated during the days of Jewish slavery under Pharaoh and this is the REAL reason we have the pyramid on or dollar bill!. America doesn't have a Jewish culture, We have a Masonic culture. Deal with it.

Apparently you believe anything you read and know nothing about the Shrine.

...no matter what you "Googled"

{sigh}

Oops. (Edit because ML already said most of what I had to say)



[edit on 24-5-2008 by senrak]

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This is what I call the "Lord of the Rings" type of conspiracy theory. I call it that because, much like Lord of the Rings, its "one theory to rule them all."

I understand why people like to do this. I understand the need to boil everything down into 1 massive conspiracy where the same group of people are responsible for everything. In just this post alone, the Masons were blamed for: college fraternities, the French revolution, and feminism. There is no evidence that I can see, simply a deep seated needed to connect everything into 1 over arching conspiracy.

In some sense, I wish it were true. Really I do. It would be nice if the world were so simple, if all the blame could be put on one group. But I'm afraid its not. Its just the need for a scapegoat, in my opinion.

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Truth really IS stranger than fiction. And life really DOES follow art. The word BLAME here is way to harsh, use responsible instead. The Jacobin clubs in Europe were responsible for the French Revolution, this is a good thing because it's much better than French Imperialism. The American Freemasons are responsible for college GREEK fraternities, and promoting brotherly love. Again, this is not a bad thing it's just very confusing because SO few people are able to correlate the material. I think most people just figure that there all gay. I DO think American Feminist Culture is a bad thing though, and that is why this all ties together with Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. Why should Barack Obama have to join a Prince Hall Masonic Lodge anyway? answer: Because the Freemasons wouldn't let him in!!!!. Or Hillary Clinton!!!!!. Ask your wife to go to the local Masonic Lodge open house and ask to be admitted and see what they say, they have to make separate categories for everyone!!!. Bill Clinton was even big enough to admit in his book MY LIFE that he dropped out of the Freemasons because of there discriminatory practices!!! yet he was still a leader in the "youth" Masons [IF YOU CALL 16-21 A YOUTH GROUP!]. But that still makes him O.K. with Masons and it still puts him in an exclusive club that DOES NOT ADMIT WOMEN and so the competition between him and his wife just keeps getting worse. The rest of the world calls us stupid ugly Americans [until they need our help]. Deal with it.

Obama's primary foreign policy advisor is the author of the book "The Grand Chessboard".

The author is a leading NWO architect/enthusiast who wants one world government, just like George Bush Sr. and Bill Clinton.

Obama is no different and may even be more detrimental in this regard. His advisor claims China must be conquered (in the book mentioned above).

Obama should be the President of Iran, not the USA.

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I agree, it really doesn't matter if hes a member or not. He's an NWO propagandist and will only lead us down a path of less freedoms.

He's CFR. He's also a member of that 'church' in Chicago which is SLIMEY and is racist. So I'd count that. It's not secret .. but it is slimey.

Got any proof or a source for this blatant statement?



Where's your proof or justification for this? Any direct quote from Barack claiming this? Freemasonry is open to all men regardless of race. That being said, there is nothing tyo stop a few ignorant individuals from pressuring someone of a particular race not to join a specific lodge, but this is not a rule, law, or norm in freemasonry and is not be tolerated.




On page 68 of his book, Clinton actually says he decided not to continue from Demolay into Freemasonry because of what he 'MISTAKENLY' thought were anti-Catholic and discriminatory practices. He later goes on to say on the next page that as Governor he later was introduced to Prince Hall lodges and saw it was a choice, not a requirement to attend these.



DeMolay is for YOUTHS ages 12-21. See this source www.demolay.org...
You don't think 12 years old counts as a youth?