Barack Obama is he a member ?

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posted on Dec, 17 2008 @ 01:21 PM
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I feel Obama is a member of a secret society although I don't know which one. I say this because you don't ascend to the top of the political ladder without being a member of some secret society or group. The people who want world government have worked too hard to let an average joe become president and mess up their plans. They want someone in power that they can control. That is why they groom every single president. In my opinion Obama has ties to not only brzezinski but the rockefellers and rothschilds as well being that his mother and grandmother were bankers. He also represents chicago a rockefeller controlled city.




posted on Dec, 19 2008 @ 12:41 AM
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Originally posted by OldBoy
Is Barack Obama a member of any slimey secret society, like the rest of the corrupt us & a leaders ?


All but two of them were freemasons and Obama has very close ties to the Clintons if that tells you anything? Mmm, something smells ripe..



posted on Dec, 19 2008 @ 05:20 AM
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All but two of them were freemasons and Obama has very close ties to the Clintons if that tells you anything? Mmm, something smells ripe..


All but 14 of the 43 soon to 44 presidents of the States were not Mason.
Bill was a member of DeMolay, but never joined Masonry in and of itself.



posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 09:29 AM
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posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 10:52 AM
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reply to post by OldBoy
 

I'm fairly certain he's a Bilderberger, meaning he's part of the NWO. Barack Obama is a puppet.



posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 11:02 AM
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Originally posted by NIV21

Originally posted by OldBoy
Is Barack Obama a member of any slimey secret society, like the rest of the corrupt us & a leaders ?


All but two of them were freemasons and Obama has very close ties to the Clintons if that tells you anything? Mmm, something smells ripe..




All but the soon to be President have been white! Why, this is surely proof of a massive conspiracy by white people.

While RuneSpider has already corrected you on the fact that far, far less than "all but 2" of our Presidents have been masons, I am curious as to where you got this disinformation?



posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 11:19 AM
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Yes. He's got connections and cash. How else is he able to get in without much experience and hide his shady background? Meh!



posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 11:52 AM
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Why is it that as soon as a black man is elected President he is a member of something evil or the NWO?



posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 12:04 PM
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This powerful group secretly meets every year to discuss plans for every citizen on earth, as to how to foster and implement the one-world-government goal. As a clandestine order, each member has vowed not to reveal the nature of the issues covered in the meetings, or to give attribution to what was said. Additionally, members of this organization hold major, high-profile, and influential positions throughout the world. Some of those who have attended and do attend these secret meetings are the likes of Bill Clinton, Walter Mondale, the Rockefellers, Gerald Ford, Tony Blair, Henry Kissinger, Peter Jennings, Colin L. Powell, William McDonough,The Bush’s and about 115 powerful people.” [”Secret Societies and their Members”,
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I have always seen list's of famous Masons. To just look at the name means very little. When you date and place those names in the proper time line and placement of power you begin to see the deception and vastness of this power elite. What will shock you even more is to learn who the powers are behind the Freemasons. Notice the death's of non Masonic presidents or those who lost favor, and the shuffling of the vice presidents to get them in the position of takeover before the presidents were killed or removed. Note also the number of presidential running mates who lost the race for presidency were Masons also. A win win situation regardless of the outcome of the election. The Mason's have controlled this country from the beginning. Another interesting fact to consider is that of the 37 Presidents of the United States before Jimmy Carter, at least 18 or 21 (depending on which source you believe) were close relatives. That comes to somewhere between 48.6 percent and 56.7 percent-far to much to be coincidence, as any conspiritologist (or mathematician) would tell you. Of the 224 ancestors in the family tree of 21 Presidents, we find 13 Roosevelt's, 16 Coolidge's, and 14 Tyler's. Another source manages to relate 60 percent of the Presidents and link most of them to the super-rich Astor family. This data does not include genealogies of the five most recent President. Psychologist G. William Domhoff claims that a large part of America's Ruling elite, just like that of Europe, are related by marriage. (Everything is Under Control. Conspiracies, Cults, and Cover-Ups by Robert Anton Wilson pg 39-40)
www.theforbiddenknowledge.com...

"It doesn't matter who the people voted for; they always vote for us". - Illuminati Statement -



posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 12:05 PM
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I do beleive that it is less to do with him being black, and more to do with the people whom he has brought to his circle.

People like Dr. Brezinski, one of his chief advisors, who was a member of the CFR and the bilderberg, who has long since been believed by NWO watchers to be one of their top front men.



posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 01:21 PM
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You have got to be kidding me. Are people so desperate now to find diabolical cabals of evil that they are resorting to investigating family trees to find out who was a mason and using THAT as evidence? Even if the results were true - and given that website is often known for spreading disinformation I doubt it - this is becoming absurd.

Step 1: Look for diabolical shadowy cabals to explain world events
Step 2: If step 1 fails, search family trees to find similarities

Whats next, are we going to map out everyone to see if masons live in proximity to each other and use that as "proof"?

And I must say, as someone who knows a little bit about statistics it is quite wrong to think that those numbers are statistically significant. Given the data provided, it would be impossible to conclude that.



posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 02:21 PM
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The two would probably be John Kennedy and Lincoln, the two most famous successful presidential assassinations.
Because they were assassinated in office, and because of Kennedy's misquoted speech, they get credited as being against Masonry, which is why they were killed.



posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 09:28 PM
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that is the general concensus rune, though i for one still doubt that either were anti-masonic. And if i remember right, Lincoln had petitioned a lodge shortly before his election, but withdrew himself before he took office only to prevent any hysterical outcry from the anti masons... anyone know if the "Anti-mason" party was still around at that time??


Also.. lincoln himself pardoned A. Pike... Pike's 2nd presidential pardon by the way... one from Jeff Davis for desertion and one from lincoln essentially for not deserting sooner


It was also said that Pike and Lincoln spent alot of time working together when Pike moved to DC to practice law..



posted on Dec, 26 2008 @ 04:43 PM
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a friend who was a former mason states that depending what level you are there is a secret portion to the masons. /The lower levels with in mason are public and known but those at much higher levels are secret

if that true then it would explain why some of you claim public knowledge is available while others state its a secret society



posted on Jan, 12 2009 @ 10:44 AM
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Very few are those that know, even less are the words they speak.

You will never complete any purpose w/ answers derived from inside the 'barrel'.

Your questions are entertaining, although they serve no purpose.

W/o understanding, the answers make no sense.



posted on Jan, 12 2009 @ 12:28 PM
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posted on Jan, 12 2009 @ 12:30 PM
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I agree....what he wants to do seems to freaking good to be true.



posted on Jan, 13 2009 @ 10:56 AM
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reply to post by umwolves123
 


bilderberg,
club of rome,
freemasonary,
there are alot of secret sosioty's in the world and the all work whit eachother its not just the us its about the 10 kingdoms of rome



posted on Jan, 13 2009 @ 05:12 PM
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Before you refute investigate.

1. The masons are a closed hierarchical knowledge(i.e pyramid) religion.

2. The lower degrees are woefully ignorant.

3. The highest degrees have sworn out so many blood oaths against themselves and their family to the brotherhood; whilst receiving commercial, political and intellectual emoluments that great fear is distilled.

3. The US law allows every individual the UNLIMITED right to contract.

4. Under current US law many many lower case "c" 14th Amendment citizens are in fact practicing "service to self" luciferian ideals. Which is the secret underlying concept of the world religion that is the temple of the brotherhood of the law of man ie the masons. Service to self and thou shalt not have any law other than thine own is their belief. Secrets within secrets within lies, real Frank Herbert stuff here.

5. The COMMERCIAL for profit (this is where global labor is concentrated into tangible wealth and man is "labor culture slaved" and made unequal) pyramid service to self culture that we are born into is a crime against the whole of humanity.

6. In order to sustain the pyramid the base must grow or the top must shrink this is where we are today.


So ask yourself where do you stand? I stand for the WHOLE truth.
Has the president elect BHSO sworn blood oaths to or taken political, financial and or intellectual emoluments from the temple of the masons?



posted on Jan, 13 2009 @ 07:55 PM
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Of course B. Hussein O. is a member of a secret society, it's almost as if 'THEY' chose him symbolically to represent their power, One Hussein taken down by them one lifted up by them. B. Hussein O. is a good guy in general though, I voted for him.





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