Barack Obama is he a member ?, page 14
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reply posted on 19-12-2008 @ 05:20 AM by RuneSpider
reply to post by NIV21




All but two of them were freemasons and Obama has very close ties to the Clintons if that tells you anything? Mmm, something smells ripe..


All but 14 of the 43 soon to 44 presidents of the States were not Mason.
Bill was a member of DeMolay, but never joined Masonry in and of itself.



reply posted on 21-12-2008 @ 10:52 AM by flyindevil
reply to post by OldBoy


I'm fairly certain he's a Bilderberger, meaning he's part of the NWO. Barack Obama is a puppet.


reply posted on 21-12-2008 @ 11:19 AM by pikypiky
reply to post by OldBoy



Yes. He's got connections and cash. How else is he able to get in without much experience and hide his shady background? Meh!


reply posted on 21-12-2008 @ 12:04 PM by ofhumandescent
reply to post by umwolves123



This powerful group secretly meets every year to discuss plans for every citizen on earth, as to how to foster and implement the one-world-government goal. As a clandestine order, each member has vowed not to reveal the nature of the issues covered in the meetings, or to give attribution to what was said. Additionally, members of this organization hold major, high-profile, and influential positions throughout the world. Some of those who have attended and do attend these secret meetings are the likes of Bill Clinton, Walter Mondale, the Rockefellers, Gerald Ford, Tony Blair, Henry Kissinger, Peter Jennings, Colin L. Powell, William McDonough,The Bush’s and about 115 powerful people.” [”Secret Societies and their Members”,
eldib.wordpress.com...

I have always seen list's of famous Masons. To just look at the name means very little. When you date and place those names in the proper time line and placement of power you begin to see the deception and vastness of this power elite. What will shock you even more is to learn who the powers are behind the Freemasons. Notice the death's of non Masonic presidents or those who lost favor, and the shuffling of the vice presidents to get them in the position of takeover before the presidents were killed or removed. Note also the number of presidential running mates who lost the race for presidency were Masons also. A win win situation regardless of the outcome of the election. The Mason's have controlled this country from the beginning. Another interesting fact to consider is that of the 37 Presidents of the United States before Jimmy Carter, at least 18 or 21 (depending on which source you believe) were close relatives. That comes to somewhere between 48.6 percent and 56.7 percent-far to much to be coincidence, as any conspiritologist (or mathematician) would tell you. Of the 224 ancestors in the family tree of 21 Presidents, we find 13 Roosevelt's, 16 Coolidge's, and 14 Tyler's. Another source manages to relate 60 percent of the Presidents and link most of them to the super-rich Astor family. This data does not include genealogies of the five most recent President. Psychologist G. William Domhoff claims that a large part of America's Ruling elite, just like that of Europe, are related by marriage. (Everything is Under Control. Conspiracies, Cults, and Cover-Ups by Robert Anton Wilson pg 39-40)
www.theforbiddenknowledge.com...

"It doesn't matter who the people voted for; they always vote for us". - Illuminati Statement -



reply posted on 21-12-2008 @ 12:05 PM by Secret Master
reply to post by Level_Head



I do beleive that it is less to do with him being black, and more to do with the people whom he has brought to his circle.

People like Dr. Brezinski, one of his chief advisors, who was a member of the CFR and the bilderberg, who has long since been believed by NWO watchers to be one of their top front men.


reply posted on 21-12-2008 @ 01:21 PM by LowLevelMason
reply to post by ofhumandescent



You have got to be kidding me. Are people so desperate now to find diabolical cabals of evil that they are resorting to investigating family trees to find out who was a mason and using THAT as evidence? Even if the results were true - and given that website is often known for spreading disinformation I doubt it - this is becoming absurd.

Step 1: Look for diabolical shadowy cabals to explain world events
Step 2: If step 1 fails, search family trees to find similarities

Whats next, are we going to map out everyone to see if masons live in proximity to each other and use that as "proof"?

And I must say, as someone who knows a little bit about statistics it is quite wrong to think that those numbers are statistically significant. Given the data provided, it would be impossible to conclude that.


reply posted on 21-12-2008 @ 02:21 PM by RuneSpider
reply to post by LowLevelMason



The two would probably be John Kennedy and Lincoln, the two most famous successful presidential assassinations.
Because they were assassinated in office, and because of Kennedy's misquoted speech, they get credited as being against Masonry, which is why they were killed.


reply posted on 21-12-2008 @ 09:28 PM by Secret Master
reply to post by RuneSpider



that is the general concensus rune, though i for one still doubt that either were anti-masonic. And if i remember right, Lincoln had petitioned a lodge shortly before his election, but withdrew himself before he took office only to prevent any hysterical outcry from the anti masons... anyone know if the "Anti-mason" party was still around at that time??


Also.. lincoln himself pardoned A. Pike... Pike's 2nd presidential pardon by the way... one from Jeff Davis for desertion and one from lincoln essentially for not deserting sooner

It was also said that Pike and Lincoln spent alot of time working together when Pike moved to DC to practice law..


reply posted on 12-1-2009 @ 12:30 PM by Toolophile
reply to post by flyindevil



I agree....what he wants to do seems to freaking good to be true.
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