Barack Obama is he a member ?

reply to post by Appak

Don't fraternities of every kind have "passwords", and rituals? Are they too "evil secret societies"? Do you come down on yhe college frats like this too or just masons? Because they are different how?

Originally posted by Zenagain
Southern "hick" here who is voting for Obama. I think you'll find that many southern "hicks" learn the error of their ways after two mistakes. I'm not one of them, but I know quite a few. Hint: Stereotypes are for morons......

True enough as someone who lives in the backwoods I know lots of old school southern good old boys that always vote for the party of entitlements, and send them their "Govt check".

I never realized that being a Capitalist instead of a Socialist made one a bigot though.

I find the race issue has become a convenient cover for Marxism.

I have no problem with a black President, but could it be like Mason Weaver instead of Obama please?

[edit on 8/10/2008 by ForkandSpoon]

I believe no matter Mcain or Obama we are still screwed, the nefarious leauges run this world and this economic meltdown is one step closer to bush sr's prophecy of new world order.

reply to post by yeht


I know I didn't make this original post but, my best friend was in the same Mason Lodge in Chicago as Obama. That one is definitely true. It seems like you can't be a politician without being a Mason first. FYI My friend will not be voting for Obama. Obama and McCain are the same if you ask me. Sorry if that upsets anyone. But to say both of them are not part off the elite is comical to me. How did a young Senator like Obama get so much financial backing in such a short amount of time to begin his presidential campaign? He was only in the US Senate since 2005. Someone with deep pockets had to help push him to the forefront. Smells fishy to me.....

If Obama is a mason please say what lodge. It would be a mattr of public record. Lodges do not keep membership secret.

Anonymous poster with "a friend": Yeah, which lodge is he a member of?

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS

"... my best friend was in the same Mason Lodge in Chicago as Obama. That one is definitely true ..."

OK, we'll bite. Here goes:

What's the name of your best friend's Lodge?

Easy question. You know, this would be the one that Senator Obama is part of. Just the specific name of the Lodge. Pretty please?

(This is going to be a really interesting answer because neither the Grand Lodge F. & A. M. of Illinois or the Prince Hall Grand Lodge of F. & A. M. in Illinois seem to be able to lay claim to the Senator.)

But gosh, if someone's best friend told them that he's Lodge-brothers with a US Senator, well, then ...

Look yes obama is a mason so what alot of our past presidents have been masons, yes most meeting are closed and not open to the public, but these are people who are smart and talented and have proven so in the past. Did you know that there are 9 known mason who signed the declaration of independance, and led wars and got us out of financial crisis before. And just because he isn't white and hasn't served in a war, doesn't mean he can't lead this country, he has proven to be a better candidate than any other running so far, if you notice everything mccain says is only half truth. He says why have health care ran by the government, no he would rather we run it with our tax money and pay for something we haven't ever paid for before. And palin has no clue what she is talking about 99.99% of the time, she can't answer a question without sidestepping around it and if you can't see this then you aren't watching the debates, yes she says she feels for the american citizens because she has an autistic child and a son going off to war and sending kids to college and now her daughter is pregnant, big deal she is rich how can she sympathize with americans when she has the money for college and to give her baby the medical attention he needs and wow sending a kid to the military that is a hard one but you know what my mom did it and she is just fine, yes she worries but other than that she knows I am in the military to keep her family and mine safe along with alot of other families, don't get me wrong. I give McCain all the props for serving in the war and being a POW but that doesn't give him the right to be president, if he hasn't the slightest clue how to run the his campaign much less the United States.

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LOL If Hillary did find out what would she be able to say? Her husband is Skull and Bones so for her to open her mouth would be completley idiotic

reply to post by PrinceHall06


Leo Zigami a former illuminati and 33rd degree mason speaks of all this and much more...This is an educated man on the matter seeing as to how he was brought up in their society...I ask not that u believe him but remain skeptical and educate yourself on the matter rather then ceaselessly blaming one another for the truth, because the truth can never be confirmed by any source.why? because personal opinion will always be just that, and unless you can say that you have seen or met these elitists and have seen or heard what they themselves have to say the truth will remain hidden.

Come on, dude. Which Lodge? Which Lodge is your friend a member of (and therefore the Lodge of which Obama is a member)?

Give him a buzz and ask him. I'll Paypal you the cost of the phone call if you like.

It would be a good bet to say that he is a member of some kind of Masonic group. How high up he is in it is another question. If, indeed, he is a member, I'd say that he would have to be at least in the mid-twenty degree range. I only say this because most people who get tagged to run for national office are associated with, if not members of Masonic groups. That's not saying that he is definitely a member. It's just saying that the odds are in favor of him being one. That's all.

According to all the stuff I hear and read about groups such as the Illuminati and Bilderberg, they have now begun to handpick leaders around the world that will follow thier orders. The last one that turned this super group down was Kennedy, look what happend to him. There is also all that stuff about the side of Obama that he doesn't want you to see that should be looked at i.e. his connections to Kenya and supposedly being born in Kenya.
Who knows anymore?

Vote Obama =)

Originally posted by Wally Conley
It would be a good bet to say that he is a member of some kind of Masonic group. How high up he is in it is another question. If, indeed, he is a member, I'd say that he would have to be at least in the mid-twenty degree range. I only say this because most people who get tagged to run for national office are associated with, if not members of Masonic groups. That's not saying that he is definitely a member. It's just saying that the odds are in favor of him being one. That's all.

Spoken as a clear example of someone who doesn't have the slightest idea how Masonic degrees or appendant bodies are structured, considering any Master Mason in good standing can go from 3° to 32° in a weekend for less than $200.

reply to post by PrinceHall06


I am a Prince Hall Mason and have friends in the jurisdiction of Illinois. They all say he is not a Brother of the craft. I do not doubt you, but I'd be interested in the lodge's name and number and what jurisdiction.

It is true that the Blue Lodge of the Masonic Order is NOT "secret". However the pyramid is vast & tall, & it is written about in the books of Albert Pike, Manley P. Hall, & others that the Blue Lodge is continuously & purposely lead astray(perhaps this is to "separate the wheat from the shaft" so to speak). Remember that the Blue Lodge is a mystery school, & like any mystery school there are those who are initiated, though most are not. These Masonic branches above the Blue Lodge are indeed still "secret" from even the Blue Lodge itself. What does all this have to do with Obama? Well the fact that our county has been guided by the Masonic Order since its conception is enough to raise questions in my mind alone. Know that it does not matter who sits in the seat if he or she is apart of & surrounded by craftsmen. There are NO ACCIDENTS....

reply to post by Vitchilo


RON PAUL IS ILLUMINATI AND A MASON> look up the episode of him on real time with bill maer he exchanges master mason hand shakes with all three individuals on the show right in front of the camera, that and he threw up the cathura a number of times, as well as some other masonic gestures, fellow craft and due gaurd.

[edit on 3-11-2008 by BeyondBelow]