Originally posted by DerekOneSeven17
Tamahu, I responded to a similar question here : www.abovetopsecret.com... . I will reitterate, with some brief
revisions...
And I responded to it, and I'll respond more in this thread.
I ask you this, who created the cycle of birth and death, which causes so much suffering, in the first place?
The system of Karma, instituted by the demiurge, is in fact evil
Who created it?
We did(this might make much more sense by the end of this post).
Nonetheless, perhaps you can ask your Inner Being in a state of Meditative Ecstacy, and find out directly; instead of just believing in what Amitakh
Stanford has to write(that is if you haven't already done so).
Did Amitakh Stanford write that this is possible, and teach the way that it can be done?
If not, then perhaps this author's writings ought to be re-examined...
and, basically, forces the participant to collect irrepayable debts over their incarnations. By being born over and over again,
and having your memory "wiped," of your past lives, you are coerced into making the same mistakes over and over, thus being forced to accumulate
more and more bad karma and enslaving yourself in the seemingly never ending cycle of reincarnation.
It looks like this Amitakh Stanford has overlooked that this statement is not in alignment with the teachings of Buddhism, or Gnosis.
As V.M. Samael Aun Weor wrote:
The Yellow Book
"When repentance is absolute, punishment is unnecessary." - Samael Aun Weor
Though to clarify, we must remember that this is only in reference to ordinary karma, and not in reference to sin against the Holy Spirit(karmasaya
and kamaduro, which must be payed(and it
can be payed) with suffering).
And in Buddhism, the Vajrasattva practice and Thirty-Five Buddhas practice can completely(with the exception of karmasaya and kamaduro) Purify all
ordinary karma:
CONCLUSION OF THIRTY-FIVE BUDDHAS PRACTICE
"The power of the mantra, the power of the names of the Thirty-five Buddhas and the beams emitted by them completely purify all the defilements,
negative karma and downfalls. All the negativities collected during beginningless rebirths have been completely purified. Your mental continuum
becomes completely pure.
"In emptiness there is no I, there is no action of creating negative karma, there is no negative karma created."
Perhaps this article that Amitakh Stanford has written called, "The Spirit World," will interest you, as she further explains how Karma is an
evil tool of the evil demiurge.
You can read it here : www.xeeatwelve.net...
Again, karma is the result of our own actions.
So in order to know who the Demiurge is, we must look for the Demiurge Within Ourselves.
And this is only possible with Complete Chastity, and much more.
The Christ and our Internal Purusha will assist us with this if we are completely sincere.
Evil exists in"rebellion," from the original creation which was usurped, in this realm, by the "error," of evil. The "god," of the
physical universe is evil. The "god," of this universe is NOT the True God of the Light. The Light had never wanted for evil to ever exist. I
believe this article "The Eight Evil Minds," by Amitakh Stanford, gives a good, though simplified due to us being forced to use our physical
minds, explanation of the origins of evil.
Malkuth(the physical world) is the fallen Sephirah.
It is the result of the fall of ((A)Ish) and ((A)Isha) from Yesod(Eden), because we misused the Energy of the Demiurge in Yetzirah(the Demiurge in
Briah is
way above the physical Universe and even
way above Yesod(Eden), on the Tree of Life).
So "Adam and Eve"(us) are responsible for the fallen Sephirah which is Malkuth.
You can read about many key-aspects of this right here:
The Elimination of Satans Tail
I would also recommend studying
Gnostic-Kabbalah and
Abhidharma(Buddhist Kabbalah)(see also the teachings of Asanga and Vasubandhu), instead of
those who slander the Demiurge and the Lords of Karma by calling them "evil".
Lucifer didn't become Satan(the "I") within us until the fall.
When Sophia as Chokmah(an aspect of Christus-Lucifer) gave birth to the Demiurge, it was not necessarily a "
fall".
Lucifer as the Brightest Angel in Heaven,
descended the Tree of Life.
He and His Angels did not yet "fall", it is symbolic of a descent.
Angels(and the Brightest in Heaven no-less) can't fall, because they do not have Free-Will.
Only Man(Tiphereth) has Free-Will.
So the exoteric interpretation contradicts itself when taken literally.
Lucifer only became Satan(the "I") within us, with the fall of "Adam and Eve".
So we must defeat Satan(the "I") within ourselves, in order for Lucifer to return to Christ.
Or for Satan-Lucifer within to again become Christus-Lucifer within.
Also, Tamahu, please stop double and triple spacing every line you write. It unneccearily takes up space on the page. I have no problem
with visibly seperating your thoughts, i do it myself, but it is unneccesary to use double and tripple spaces for almost ever line.
Well, if it really inconveniences you that much, then I'll stop doing it when responding to your posts.
Also, you did not answer the questions.
First: How is it that the All Good and Unconditionally-Loving God allows for evil and conditioning to exist?
And: How does one go about avoiding the pitfalls of the physical Universe(whether they are the fault of the Demiurge, ourselves, or some
devil), aside from Three Factors of the Revolution of the Consciousness?
(Which are related to Sexual Transmuatation(Chastity), daily Meditation, and selfless service for the sake of all suffering sentient beings)
We can sit around and complain about it.
Or we can ACT.
(And I don't mean the lazy and passionate "action" of ambition, and the "action" of fighting some evil that exists out there somewhere)
Because if the "I" acts, then we only make things worse, no?
To end suffering we should become non-doers(by killing the ego), and cease to exist, because Allah(the Consciousness) is the only Doer of Good.
Allah is the
Being, the "I" merely exists.
Buddhism does not accept a anthropomorphic or personalized-creator(Allah and Yehowah/Christ is not an anthropomorphic or personalized
creator either).
In the book "The Spirit of Peace", H.H. the Dalai Lama said that it was not some personal god that Created the (pre-physical)Universe, but that
perhaps some Primordial Atoms decided to descend from the Bosom of the Absolute.
Which is very interesting, because in Gnostic-Kabbalah, the Atom AIN-SOPH is:
"AIN SOPH is the second
aspect (of the Absolute); it is where a certain manifestation already exists...
A divine Ray exists within the human being. That Ray wants to return back into its own Star that has always smiled upon it.
The Star that guides our interior is a super divine Atom from the Abstract Absolute Space. The Kabbalistic name of that Atom is the sacred Ain Soph."
- Tarot and Kabbalah
AElohim(ALLAH) is:
"The Interior Elohim is the
ray that emanates from Aelohim. Aelohim is the Omnimerciful, the Cosmic Common Eternal Father, the Abstract Absolute Space... Aelohim is the
infinitude that sustains all." - The Pistis Sophia Unveiled
From The Pistis Sophia Unveiled:
"Absolute Perfection is needed in order to not fall from the Bosom of AElohim.
Any longing, as insignificant as it could be, for a separate existence or to be someone, is enough to cause one to be self released from the
AElohim, and to fall under the Reign of the Demiurge Creator."
"Be ye therefore Perfect, even as your (Inner)Father which is in Heaven is Perfect." - Matthew 5:48
So the Demiurge is not necessarily "evil" and this is why:
"We must make a specific
differentiation between the Ain Soph and the Ain Soph Paranishpanna: In the Ain Soph, interior Self-realization does not exist, but in the Ain Soph
Paranishpanna, interior Self-realization does exist." - Tarot and Kabbalah
From what I've learned, The Triple-Logos in Atziluth is the Sun/Son of the AIN-SOPH-AUR, Sophia is One with the Logos, and the Demiurge in Briah is
the Son of Sophia.
These are all aspects of our Being.
The Multiple Perfect Unity.
So if we were Being in Eden, and not only Being in the formless Absolute, then it is the Will of our Inner-God to descend from the Absolute as to
Self-Realize Itself in manifest existence.
And if we are here suffering, it is because of us falling from the Garden of Eden in past incarnations.
All of this can only be truly Understood with much Meditation, Transmutation, and Sacrifice.
Not just with the intellect.
You may want to reflect on all this, in the context of what H.H. the Dalai Lama said, and the definitions of AIN-SOPH, AIN-SOPH-PARANISHPANNA, and
AELOHIM; and the quotes from The Pistis Sophia Unveiled.
Regards
[edit on 16-2-2007 by Tamahu]
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