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posted on Feb, 12 2007 @ 06:23 PM
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A just released says says that internal paers from the EU say that it is now too late to stop iran from building a nuclear weapon.

EU Assessment Paper


Iran will be able to develop enough weapons-grade material for a nuclear bomb and there is little that can be done to prevent it, an internal European Union document has concluded.

In an admission of the international community’s failure to hold back Iran’s nuclear ambitions, the document – compiled by the staff of Javier Solana, EU foreign policy chief – says the atomic programme has been delayed only by technical limitations rather than diplomatic pressure. “Attempts to engage the Iranian administration in a negotiating process have not so far succeeded,” it states.


Diplomacy works (not!) with iran:


In practice, the Iranians have pursued their programme at their own pace, the limiting factor being technical difficulties rather than resolutions by the UN or the International Atomic Energy Agency.


And this:


The admission is a blow to hopes that a deal with Iran can be reached and comes at a sensitive time, when tensions between the US and Tehran are rising. Its implication that sanctions will prove ineffective will also be unwelcome to EU diplomats. Only yesterday the bloc agreed on how to apply United Nations sanctions on Tehran, overcoming a dispute between Britain and Spain over Gibraltar.




Looks like the EU appeasers have "succeeded" again in making the world a more dangerous place for themselves and everyone else.





posted on Feb, 12 2007 @ 06:26 PM
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There has been no diplomacy because America refuses to discuss anything with them.

Iran has offered again and again to have direct talks with all concerned parties.

Diplomacy can't work when you won't even talk let alone listen.



posted on Feb, 12 2007 @ 06:31 PM
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Originally posted by Malichai
There has been no diplomacy because America refuses to discuss anything with them.

Iran has offered again and again to have direct talks with all concerned parties.

Diplomacy can't work when you won't even talk let alone listen.


Go back and look at the historical record. It's obvious that iran has been delaying any talks with any and eveyone to play for time - which allows them to keep working feverishly on completing their weapons program.


Unfortunately, iran has learned that tactic from watching north korea use it.



posted on Feb, 12 2007 @ 06:41 PM
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Go back and look at the historical record. It's obvious that iran has been delaying any talks with any and eveyone to play for time - which allows them to keep working feverishly on completing their weapons program.

Yeah, that's why Iran stopped their nuclear program for over 2 years to talk with the UN, that they cooperate with US in Afghanistan, that they ask to help in Iraq, that they gave lot of Al-Qaeda operatives to US... Yeah that's why they are so bad... [Removed personal insult]

[edit on 13-2-2007 by sanctum]



posted on Feb, 12 2007 @ 06:46 PM
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Originally posted by Vitchilo


Go back and look at the historical record. It's obvious that iran has been delaying any talks with any and eveyone to play for time - which allows them to keep working feverishly on completing their weapons program.

Yeah, that's why Iran stopped their nuclear program for over 2 years to talk with the UN, that they cooperate with US in Afghanistan, that they ask to help in Iraq, that they gave lot of Al-Qaeda operatives to US... Yeah that's why they are so bad... *removed*


The simple BS is that iran never stopped their nuclear program. But the appeasers have sold you on their story, so no need to say anything more, right? My god, where do you get your information? Cooperate in Afghanistan? Gave al-qaeda operatives to the U.S.? None of that ever happened. [Removed personal insult]


[edit on 13-2-2007 by sanctum]



posted on Feb, 12 2007 @ 07:03 PM
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The simple BS is that iran never stopped their nuclear program. But the appeasers have sold you on their story, so no need to say anything more, right? My god, where do you get your information? Cooperate in Afghanistan? Gave al-qaeda operatives to the U.S.? None of that ever happened. Hint: check your mirror for true location of the BS.

Sorry, but it's not because you haven't heard of it that it didn't happened. Research yourself. Before Iran was labelled ``the axis of evil``, they were very cooperative with the US and UN... then this stupid monkey in the white house blowed up all the relations... Thanks Bush, that's a clear proof that he wants to go to war with them no matter what. Do you want to kill someone who's helping you? No.



posted on Feb, 12 2007 @ 07:46 PM
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Too late to stop Iran from building a nuclear weapon...

I tough they were 2 years from building one? That leaves 2 years for someone who would wish to beat the crap out of them... (and beat the crap some more)

In any ways... Im not as concerned with Iran as I am with Pakistan (who HAS nuclear weapons)

I'd think islamists will take over the country when Musharraf dies



posted on Feb, 12 2007 @ 08:25 PM
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Everyone needs to do some research.

Iran is completely within its right to research and develop nuclear reactors for energy under the Non-proliferation Treaty. Guess what country is the only one that has not complied with it? The US!

Ever since the mullahs ousted and replaced the Shaw, the US has wanted to teach Iran a lesson. The US put the Shaw in power to be used as their political puppet. When he was removed from power, the US became angry. They have been planning to do something about Iran since the early 90s.

Since 2003, the US has slowly started the drum-beat for action in Iran. Now, we have alleged munitions being used to make deadly armor-piercing roadside bombs. It's funny that the pictures of some of the confiscated munitions that our "experts" are saying can only have come from Iran, are all labelled in english. Hhmmm, a country whoose main language is farsi is making bombs with all english labels?

Wake up, we are being fed this rhetoric to drum up a cause to attack Iran.



posted on Feb, 12 2007 @ 09:33 PM
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Oh no, it's too late to stop them from something you have zero proof they are doing.


What ever will we do.
Would it be too much to ask from you Neo-Con lapmuts do just a tiny bit of research on what it takes to build a nuclear weapons program?

If Iran was building "the bomb" it's pretty damn difficult to conceal.
There is no sense of urgency. That's just the chickenhawk rhetoric tingling your coward sense.






[edit on 12-2-2007 by Awake and All Seeing]



posted on Feb, 12 2007 @ 09:50 PM
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I wouldnt believe a word of intelligence out of the EU if they swore blood oaths over it.


Anyone remember the bullcrap about WMDs in Iraq that came out of the EU and has now been pinned on the US as an american fabrication?

This is all the same crap and dont let the EU "peacetalks" fool you, they dont want peace with Iran. What they want is to have their cake and eat it too. They want the US to take out Iran while they turn around to the world and point their fingers and say, "look at them ignorant americans bombing the peaceful Iranians"
they did it in Iraq too!

Who stands to gain the most, besides israel, from a non-nuclear islamic state in the middle east? Sure, the US has assets there, but guess who falls under the umbrella of nuclear tipped ballistic missles? ermmmmm?

Thats right...its our good ole pals the europeans!
you know, the ones who fabricate evidence of WMDs in Iraq to escalate a conflict with the US and Iraq and then wash their hands of the situation?

NO WAR FOR EUROPE!
NO AMERICAN LIVES
FOR EUROPEAN TRAITORS!!!!







[edit on 12-2-2007 by XphilesPhan]



posted on Feb, 12 2007 @ 10:25 PM
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Originally posted by Malichai
There has been no diplomacy because America refuses to discuss anything with them.

Iran has offered again and again to have direct talks with all concerned parties.

Diplomacy can't work when you won't even talk let alone listen.

There have been offers to work diplomatically. We have offered to help them with nuclear energy if they are willing to let the international community ensure that they don't have a weapons program.



posted on Feb, 12 2007 @ 11:56 PM
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Originally posted by Vitchilo
then this stupid monkey in the white house blowed up all the relations... Thanks Bush, that's a clear proof that he wants to go to war with them no matter what. Do you want to kill someone who's helping you? No.


Uh, where in the article did it mention Bush?

Oh, that's right.

You would have had to actually read the article to know that the information and assessment of iranian intentions came from the EU's Solano (no friend of Bush, to be sure).


iran helping anyone? Maybe hezbollah kill and maim more women and children, but that would be about it.


[edit on 2/12/2007 by centurion1211]



posted on Feb, 13 2007 @ 12:20 AM
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You would have had to actually read the article to know that the information and assessment of iranian intentions came from the EU's Solano (no friend of Bush, to be sure).

Solana IS a friend of Bush, he's a friend of the globalists, he's powerful inside the EU, it's quite obvious.



iran helping anyone? Maybe hezbollah kill and maim more women and children, but that would be about it.

Yeah, let's not talk about the 1000s that the Zionist terrorist organisation killed when funded by the US evangelicals.



posted on Feb, 13 2007 @ 12:28 AM
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Iran is a problem in the sense that they are interested in developing a nuclear program all on their own b4 they combat a multitude of more pressing problems in their country. They could have nuclear energy much cheaper if they were to outsource the problem areas but what they think its a matter of pride like theres some secret to immortality by developing your own nuclear infrastructure.

The only thing that needs to be said is that the other nuclear powers were able to accomplish this task 50 years ago and Iran is still having difficulty even with manuals on the internet and new computer technology, it is because their government is so backwards.

But the US is not innocent in this either if Bush and his administration werent viewed throughout the world and in america as beligerent cowboys who have a unilateral mindset errr rather close minded view of the world, we wouldnt be having this conversation.



posted on Feb, 13 2007 @ 12:45 AM
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Heres an interesting bit of info, very related to this thread.

Marine Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said yesterday that he has no information indicating Iran's government is directing the supply of lethal weapons to Shiite insurgent groups in Iraq.

www.washingtonpost.com... /12/AR2007021201537.html

[edit on 13-2-2007 by Desolate Cancer]



posted on Feb, 13 2007 @ 02:28 AM
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Interesting article Desolate. Maybe this is the start of a coup!



posted on Feb, 13 2007 @ 05:10 AM
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I just say beware of all sorts of dissinfo...in media and elsewhere.
This and that will surface in order to justife a war.I have read countless of pages where people in the know have said that they where allowed to go anywhere and check out tha #.They didn´t find anything to prove that Iran where developing nukes.Other pages and sites says different.So who´s lying and who´s telling the truth?

Do I trust the Mullahs? Hell no!
Do I Trust Bush and his minions? Hell no!

Why can´t we just send these bunch of idiots and their masters who ever they are, to Pluto or Something?Where they can wage wars against each other as much as they like and leave the normal,peacloving people on earth alone!



posted on Feb, 13 2007 @ 05:13 AM
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Originally posted by scooler1
Everyone needs to do some research.

Iran is completely within its right to research and develop nuclear reactors for energy under the Non-proliferation Treaty. Guess what country is the only one that has not complied with it? The US!

Ever since the mullahs ousted and replaced the Shaw, the US has wanted to teach Iran a lesson. The US put the Shaw in power to be used as their political puppet. When he was removed from power, the US became angry. They have been planning to do something about Iran since the early 90s.

Since 2003, the US has slowly started the drum-beat for action in Iran. Now, we have alleged munitions being used to make deadly armor-piercing roadside bombs. It's funny that the pictures of some of the confiscated munitions that our "experts" are saying can only have come from Iran, are all labelled in english. Hhmmm, a country whoose main language is farsi is making bombs with all english labels?

Wake up, we are being fed this rhetoric to drum up a cause to attack Iran.


EXACTLY!

Sadly, some STILL believe Iran are the aggressors here,while thinking the US are making the world safer, these people believe what they're fed from TV and other media.

One way or another the US (and their lapdogs) WILL go after Iran, thats inevitable, whats not certain is how the US are going to propogate an attack, expect to see yet another false 'terrorist' attack in the US very very soon.

[edit on 13-2-2007 by Order Out Of Chaos]



posted on Feb, 13 2007 @ 05:45 AM
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Originally posted by centurion1211
A just released says says that internal paers from the EU say that it is now too late to stop iran from building a nuclear weapon.


All lies and propaganda, Iran is no threat to anybody, the neocons simply want more war as it is great for their businesses, the multi billion contracts they get when there is war



posted on Feb, 13 2007 @ 09:21 AM
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Originally posted by Awake and All Seeing

If Iran was building "the bomb" it's pretty damn difficult to conceal.



on what evidence do you base the fact it is difficult to conceal?

The Manhatten project was concealed quite well and they were creating a nuclear device from scratch.

The technology is all available to create a bomb they would only be exposed when they decided to test a device, how could the US or anyone else detect someone manufacturing something in a secret bunker.

for an example, alot of people know about Area 51, where it is and that it's a military installation etc. etc. but do people know whats going on inside? NO?

That's the worrying thing about nukes they ARE easy to conceal!



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