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Originally posted by andy1033
one funny thing about the 911 day, that most forgot to mention.
Is that george bush was reading his book about a goat upside down. even though it does not prove much, it is a strange anomaly, and i also find it funny that he was reading about a goat, and what sybolism that brings to mind.
Originally posted by sp00n1
It looks to me like member participation in this contest is winding down...
When do we find out who won?
Originally posted by In nothing we trust
I believe that they would prefer not to enslave the worlds population, if they could avoid it, but they will do so if that is thier only option.
"We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent." - Federal Reserve Banker, Paul Warburg (February 17, 1950, as he testified before the US Senate)
Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
I've seen some good information, and we have many who are close.
As an added bonus.... if someone can come up with 5 major points that are simple, direct, and easy to understand that point to conspiratorial concerns leading up to 9/11, I'd be inclined to award two prizes of 250,000 points.
Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
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I'll give 250,000 ATS Points to the member that creates the most eloquent, and concise list of 5 solid items, with irrefutable supporting evidentiary links.
Originally posted by 2l82sk8
It is difficult to know where to start with the facts that preceded the attacks of 9/11, which clearly indicate a conspiracy and cast doubt on the official stories of 9/11, but I will attempt to begin with 5 basic facts, beginning with the historical facts.
First, one should look at similar historical terrorist events or plans. In 1933, Germany, a simple republic at the time, endured a terrorist attack of their parliament building supposedly by communist terrorists the Nazis claimed. That regime then immediately implemented their anti-terrorist agenda, which legislation included mandatory ID cards, gun registration, and terrorist centers—detention centers later used as death camps. They went from just a republic to an Empire due to that initiative from a terrorist attack.
Then in America we have Operation Northwoods of the early 60’s which describes the plans to imitate a terrorist attack to justify going to war with Cuba. There were plans to paint aircraft to resemble commercial airliners, and have the planes crash into buildings, and even sinking of our own ships, and blaming the Cubans. It was a plan that was officially drawn up, is now well documented, but never implemented…well not for its original purpose anyway.
We can see however, similarities with Northwoods and 9/11 though, as eye witnesses of 9/11 claim the aircraft did not appear to be commercial aircraft, the aircraft crashed into buildings, terrorists were blamed, and thus we had the justification to go to war, just as planned in 1961 and presented in 1962, but this time with Iraq instead of Cuba. Not a hard game to play, you just chose who to blame.
Also, one should not underestimate the importance of knowing that the USA PATRIOT Act was written before 9/11 and Homeland Security was also developed long before 9/11. Plans for rounding up dissidents as a means for suppressing civil disturbance have been in the works for decades. 9/11 was used as the pretext to create the new executive authority to declare anyone, even American citizens born and bred, an "enemy combatant" for the purpose of detaining persons indefinitely without habeas corpus, and to allow imprisonment in secret prisons where even torture is practiced. Notice the similarity with the Germany in 1933.
Furthermore, there was insider trading of airline options and warnings and memos of those apparently in-the-know in government to loved ones not to fly on 9/11. Something was known, as something was planned.
Finally one should not underestimate the principal players in US foreign policy under the current Bush administration: Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz. Among others, they are members of the "Project for a New American Century" and have been instrumental in developing long-running plans for worldwide military dominance, including an invasion of the Middle East, dating back to Bush Sr. and some administrations prior to him. They reiterated their agenda "to increase defense spending significantly, and to challenge regimes hostile to our interests and values" in the late 1990s, and stated a clear intent to invade Iraq for the purpose of regime change. After 9/11, they lost no time in doing so, by tying Iraq to the attacks and implementing their goal in full force.
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Originally posted by dariousg
This is where we have to look. We have to look at the past. I really like your approach.