RANT, dude, Giuliani is where it's at...drag, and everything else notwithstanding....

And I can tell you're scared to death of that!

Originally posted by djohnsto77
And I can tell you're scared to death of that!

I just can't imagine a world where he gets the GOP nod, but I'd work for it.

The Dems could run any straight person with one spouse against him and win in a landslide. Can you imagine what we don't know about Goul's yet?

Just look at what we do know? That mess doesn't play outside NYC.

Originally posted by grover
Given the fact that Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar (no mean feat) dumb and dumber hardly applies. To be a Rhodes scholar means he is probably a hell of a lot smarter than you are semperfoo

Well you need a sense of humor to appreciate that... Cmon it was funny. Pull your head out of your ass for five minutes please.

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This is really entertaining watching what some of you are putting out here..

To hear many of you fellow republicans bluff your way out of the reality of nextyears US elections is amusing... I believe that hillary has a high chance in winning next year so does Obama..their not perfect but their sure as hell are better than bush and the other republicans candidates thus far...and I for one support the democrats in taking back power next year.. I never thought id say this 3years ago but looking at the shape of the bush administration at the moment and the major flaws they have committed during their years in the whitehouse... they are fighting a loosing battle... so go on making excuses..waste time and air... at the end of the day the bush administration and the majority of republicans are not looking good on the world stage and they are loosing patience on home ground...

If another republican like bush gets voted in again and the same acts are commited as such by the bush administration such as continueing to keep troops in Iraq and draining billions of dollars etc.. this great nation called the United states of america will just drain itself of pride...faith..and will...

I was a republican supporter years back..I trusted the bush administration on its firm opinion over Iraq... I stood by bush during his war on terror and I stood with the bush administration over their war in Afghanistan but iv lost patience and I believe theres more than enough evidence out there to make "change" so I will be one of many voting for either hillary or Obama and I can assure you there will be plenty more republicans like me turning away from what is a lost white house administration and a lost cause...

Im not a republican. im an independant. My problem with the democrats is they want to mold america after socialist europe. They are for bigger government and more rules which means more restrictions of individual rights and freedoms.

Bill Clinton's run in the white house was an abomination. He sold america out to the likes of china on more then one occasion. He to this day receives a lovely paycheck from the red army for some reason. Its been rumored that hillary clinton could use these funds for a run at the 08 presidency. I bet the chincoms would just love to have another clinton in the white house.

Say what you want about bush. Love him, hate him, its human nature. GWB inherited a receding economy before the 911 attacks, and turned it around... the economy has been robust and unemployment is at an all time low. The tax cuts the president did are stimulating the economy somthing he doesnt get enough credit for. The budget deficit now stands at about 1.4 percent of the nation's GDP, well below the 2.3 percent that's been the norm since 1970's. And in 2008, the US deficit as percentage of GDP is projected to be at 0.7%.. I see a strong rapidly expanding economy...

Bush is far from perfect and I agree with that. But I dont think hes as bad as the liberal media and the sheeple who follow it make him out to be. I can think for myself on these matters.

It seems the problem with you is you plan on voting for a democrat regardless. Tell me, what is the democrats plans for america? How about Iraq? Cut and run is their plan. Its because they have no real plan. And yet these are the same ppl who voted for the war in the beginning. Now its bushes fault....

I like Rudys chances at presidency over hitlers and obamas. Hes for individual state rights. Hes for smaller government, making the american ppls voices heard... I think you should sit back and view all candidates with open skepticism. Dont pledge your allegiance to one side without first knowing the facts about each candidate. Its that sort of mentality that is wrong with america.

Its so funny when I read comments like semperfoo's... when I think of policies that restrict individual rights I think of conservative attempts to restrict a woman's right to choose, their rampant hostility towards gays, the patriot act and its spin offs... I have a hard time believing that those are the fault of democrats.

Actually, Rudy is pro-abortion (including PBA), pro-gay marriage and pro-illegal immigration. Hillary is against all those. She's the conservative from NY.

So there are differences, although I don't think there's a lick of difference on them over Iraq or the Patriot Act. Clinton tried to introduce his own, but the conservatives called it "Big Brother."

So if a social free-for-all is your wish, um, vote Republican. (How weird is that?)

Cats now bark and dogs meow.

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Personally the only way I would vote for Hillary is if she were running against something like newt the gingrich and it was close. If she gets the nomination (and god knows I hope the democrats aren't THAT stupid) I will vote 3rd party.

I am putting my money down on the idea of a Gore spoiler for right now... Obama and Hillary so bloody themselves playing from the Rove book of evil tricks that they effectively cancel themselves out... no body will want either of them (or the alternatives) and neither has enough votes to take the convention opening the way for a dark horse, and if it plays out that way my money is on a Gore/Edwards or Gore/Clarke ticket. But if Hillary gets the nod she will lose because she will divide the democrats between her supporters and people like me while undoing all the damage bush has done to the GOP and uniting the republicans and hard right like nothing else could.

But I still hold out for an Edwards surge.

The Clinton's and Bush's are peas in a pod. Clarke works for Hillary so there's nothing there. Gore used to, but has packed it in for greener Hollywood pastures. And Obama is just a right wing talkig point.

Edwards is the only one I see with real for-the-people moxy.

Originally posted by RANT
Actually, Rudy is pro-abortion (including PBA), pro-gay marriage and pro-illegal immigration. Hillary is against all those. She's the conservative from NY.

Rudy is pro state. He wants the states to deal with these issue. Hes said that personally he doesnt approve of them, however he said that that is not up to him to personally decide.
he isnt pro illegal immigration. Rudy is for the individual states to decide on that issue (ala the America people decide)

And that video and those pics are just #ing disturbing..

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Enough of the "well, he's not too bad..."

Take a look at Ron Paul if you have any sense of economics or constitutionality.