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FOX actually means 666...no wonder they spew NWO propoganda!

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posted on Feb, 9 2007 @ 07:38 PM
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Okay, I researched the name "William Fox" further.

There are some conflicts with his birth name, however as you will see.


WILHELM FRIED from Tulchva, Hungary

source: xroads.virginia.edu...



Wilhelm Fuchs from Tolcsva, Hungary

source: en.wikipedia.org...(producer)



"Baby William" from Tulchva, Hungary - No name change mentioned

source: www.fabulousfox.com...



WILHELM FRIED from Tulchva, Hungary

source: www.britannica.com...



Wilhelm Fuchs (lists the name Wilhelm Fried as Erroneous)
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"Somewhere along the way, Wilhelm's name was changed to William Fox, a direct English translation of his Germanic name"

source: www.whitenberg.de...


The last source is a biography. I would more readily accept that version of his birth name. (Fuchs)




edit = clarity



And for the record he did not change his own name, apparently his parents did.


edit to add:

I see Jimmy1880 already covered the "Fuchs" name. Here are the links to back that up.

[edit on 2/9/2007 by Mechanic 32]




posted on Feb, 9 2007 @ 09:00 PM
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Originally posted by pepsi78
zero is not a number, zero=nothing.
one is the smallest number, because a number will always resemble a value.


That may be true, but by excluding it in this system don't you exclude the formation of about 25% of the numbers from 1-998? For example, lets say the number in the bible was 202 instead of 666, it would then be impossible to use this system to calculate it. (unless I am missing something)



posted on Feb, 9 2007 @ 09:10 PM
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yeah, you are missing something.
Here is a hint.
Do Roman numerals have a zero?



posted on Feb, 9 2007 @ 09:14 PM
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Originally posted by 11Bravo
yeah, you are missing something.
Here is a hint.
Do Roman numerals have a zero?


No, but what do Roman numerals have to do with this? And that still doesn't answer my question about how a number such as 202 would be calculated using this system.



posted on Feb, 9 2007 @ 09:18 PM
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If you wanna believe this is all just some coincidence, that is marvelously fine with me.

I ask you, though, to look at the brouder picture. If you take these things in isolation, of course its gonna be "well thats just a coincidence!" but, if you take everything collectively, all the trash that is going around about our Elite, all the atrocities, all the lies, all the corruption, all the hidden cues to look for; Skull and bones, Bohemian Grove, Child prostitution, SRA cases (satanic ritual abuse), all the missing children, all of it, look at it all collectively, and ask yourself this: If our government and our so-called leaders are not in on this...than they have got to be the most incompetent bunch of fools to ever grace office to let all these things go on under their nose.

What do you think it is? Incompetence, or are they in on it? I would suggest the ladder...

[edit on 9-2-2007 by LightWorker13]



posted on Feb, 9 2007 @ 09:22 PM
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Either way...if they are incompetent or they are in on it, they DONT deserve to be in power, I think we can all agree on that, instead of arguing about the details...

People say Bush is evil, but when you say hes satanic, whoa, that crosses the line there buddy. Why?



posted on Feb, 9 2007 @ 09:31 PM
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Originally posted by LightWorker13
Either way...if they are incompetent or they are in on it, they DONT deserve to be in power, I think we can all agree on that, instead of arguing about the details...

People say Bush is evil, but when you say hes satanic, whoa, that crosses the line there buddy. Why?


Oh believe me I am not defending Bush and his administration one bit. I was simply questioning the system you used to conclude that FOX=666, which a part of which was either overlooked, or I just plain don't understand. If the focus here is on the Bush administration then this point doesn't matter, but I was under the impression this thread was about FOX news (going by the title).



posted on Feb, 9 2007 @ 09:55 PM
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To answer your question, zero is a fairly modern mathmatical invention.
It may sound hard to believe but the concept of having a symbolic representation of 'nothing' seemed useless to earlier man.


Originally posted by Mechanic 32

Originally posted by Lexion
Since this deals with numerology, perhaps this is the wrong forum ?



I was thinking the same.

Not only for the reasons you have stated, but clearly Fox is the family name of the original founder. And not some name that was made up, to suit the agenda.

As I said before, perhaps his whole family tree is "in on it".



His whole family 'in on it'?
The reference made in the OP is that 666 equals Fox.
Revelation tells us about 666.

Rev 13:18 This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight , let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. His number is 666

So you see, it is a MANS number.
A Name is passed down from generation to generation and sometimes, for various reasons, they change, but always they are honored and defended. Most men realize this. A mans name is his family history, but in a world that doesnt know its daddy I can understand the disassociation. Fuchs became Fox by choice. Fox is 666 using basic numerology.
666 is a mans number, and the number of the beast, and just like most things in the Bible, has multiple angles and applications.
It really is a pretty astounding book.

By the way, didnt it lose an X along the way?



posted on Feb, 9 2007 @ 10:30 PM
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Originally posted by Mirthful Me
Where's the zero?

You can't have 1-9 and not "0."

Zero

But that would kind of mess up your chart... Wouldn't it?

The real conspiracy is how long will you bleat "FOX is 666" whilst ignoring the lack of a zero column in your chart.




zero isn't a number.

what, do you work for FOX or something?



posted on Feb, 9 2007 @ 10:45 PM
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Originally posted by billybob

zero isn't a number.

Quite right.
As I pointed out earlier, it wasnt even invented until relatively recently in mathematical terms.
If I had no apples, why would I waste my time writing anything?
The concept of a numerical representation of 'nothing' is fairly advanced thinking.



posted on Feb, 9 2007 @ 10:49 PM
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Originally posted by somedude

Originally posted by 11Bravo
yeah, you are missing something.
Here is a hint.
Do Roman numerals have a zero?


No, but what do Roman numerals have to do with this? And that still doesn't answer my question about how a number such as 202 would be calculated using this system.


202 would be BT or TB
B = 2, T = 200.

[edit on 9-2-2007 by Shar_Chi]



posted on Feb, 9 2007 @ 11:11 PM
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Ahh I understand now, I didn't realize that each row represented the next place up. I guess that I was looking at it as each letter in the word FOX having a value of 6 and resulting in three 6's, rather than the number six hundred and sixty six. My apologies LightWorker13



posted on Feb, 9 2007 @ 11:21 PM
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That FOX 666 chart does not prove anything. Who made up that chart anyway? THe genius left out the number 0. If there was a zero it wouldnt work. So are you therefore saying that the chart used to derive that FOX = 666 is somehow more accurate in determining the number value rather than the chart that includes a 0 where the number 666 would mean FPZ?

Also, there is reason why that chart is completely coincidental. Following that chart the letter Z has no numeric value. If all the letters F O X are equal to a 6 this implies that all the letters of the alphabet have a specific value, yet Z does not have any. How does that work out?

I find that people look too hard into things. In the bible 666 is the mark of the beast and is not hidden. All this numerology b.s is basically manipulating numbers in order to fit a certain belief that uses no stable system as a framework but rather a system that provides the most interesting results.
Ive seen people assign letters numerical value based on their order in the alphabet where A=1 and Z=26, yet this is no paradigm and as demonstrated above people will manipulate numbers wierd ways, such as making a chart, following no clear and systematic framework and when they find something interesting they will present it as fact
For example lets go back to your chart
lets look at the word SEW
S=1
E=5
W=5

5+5+1 = 11
11/3 = 3 and 2/3 = 3.6666666666

hmmm now even though I believe that this means nothing whatsoever I can come along and say wow look at that 3.666666 its trying to say 3 6's or 666, the mark of the beast! The word SEW is therefore evil right? What does this mean, Satan will come in the form of a seamstress? Maybe sewers are really satanic worshippers. I can go on and on making dozens of false interpertations and connections based on some stupid chart which has no relevancy to anything that we could consider real meaning.

[edit on 9-2-2007 by Think About IT]

[edit on 9-2-2007 by Think About IT]



posted on Feb, 9 2007 @ 11:45 PM
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Originally posted by LightWorker13
If you wanna believe this is all just some coincidence, that is marvelously fine with me.

I ask you, though, to look at the brouder picture. If you take these things in isolation, of course its gonna be "well thats just a coincidence!" but, if you take everything collectively, all the trash that is going around about our Elite, all the atrocities, all the lies, all the corruption, all the hidden cues to look for; Skull and bones, Bohemian Grove, Child prostitution, SRA cases (satanic ritual abuse), all the missing children, all of it, look at it all collectively, and ask yourself this: If our government and our so-called leaders are not in on this...than they have got to be the most incompetent bunch of fools to ever grace office to let all these things go on under their nose.

What do you think it is? Incompetence, or are they in on it? I would suggest the ladder...

[edit on 9-2-2007 by LightWorker13]


hey lightworker im definatly on board with you on this. seems like most of the people talking in this thread are waaay behind on their info about the big picture. if they cant understand your logic on this simple subject then the really deep stuff will be very confusing to them. if people are really interested in whats really happening on this planet they will seek the truth and when they find it it will set them free. of course when that happens they will more than likely be labeled. the majority of the masses have a single minded point of view and are trapped by that view kinda like the borg. any other view including the truth will be frowned at and cast aside. the elite thru the centuries have done a very good job indeed.



posted on Feb, 9 2007 @ 11:56 PM
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Originally posted by Think About IT
That FOX 666 chart does not prove anything. Who made up that chart anyway?


I was gonna edit down your post and address some of your questions, but the more I went over it the more I realized two things.
Firstly That you obviously hadnt read the thread because the few questions you have are answered already.
Secondly I realized that you typed alot but said very little.
Im not sure think-about-it is a good name for you my friend.



posted on Feb, 10 2007 @ 12:37 AM
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Originally posted by 11Bravo

Originally posted by Think About IT
That FOX 666 chart does not prove anything. Who made up that chart anyway?


I was gonna edit down your post and address some of your questions, but the more I went over it the more I realized two things.
Firstly That you obviously hadnt read the thread because the few questions you have are answered already.
Secondly I realized that you typed alot but said very little.
Im not sure think-about-it is a good name for you my friend.


LOL me too 11Bravo, except i gave up altogether



posted on Feb, 10 2007 @ 01:03 AM
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To the original poster (and this is a legit question), have you recently read 'The Biggest Secret' by David Icke?



posted on Feb, 10 2007 @ 02:23 AM
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Originally posted by 11Bravo
His whole family 'in on it'?
The reference made in the OP is that 666 equals Fox.
Revelation tells us about 666.
........
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So you see, it is a MANS number.
A Name is passed down from generation to generation and sometimes, for various reasons, they change, but always they are honored and defended. Most men realize this. A mans name is his family history, but in a world that doesnt know its daddy I can understand the disassociation. Fuchs became Fox by choice. Fox is 666 using basic numerology.
666 is a mans number, and the number of the beast, and just like most things in the Bible, has multiple angles and applications.
It really is a pretty astounding book.
By the way, didnt it lose an X along the way?


Yawn.

I did not include your passage from "Revelations", simply because the bible is not a irrefutable source, imo. There are simply too many interpretations at the least.

But I notice that you did not also include where the OP said:


Originally posted by LightWorker13
The Elite are heavy into the occult, remember, occult is not bad in itself all it means is "secret", but the Elite use it for negativity. They study numerology, and astrology, all the divination most people disregard as fantasty...they use symbols and patterns all the time, sacred geometry, esoteric knowledge and arts kept from the public.
Ive said it before, most people dont wanna believe it, that the NWO is SATANIC to its very core. Your Elite, which work for the NWO, are SATANIC TO THE CORE. And what is the main thing that Satan does? HE DECEIVES! HE LIES! HE PRETENDS TO BE GOOD, WHEN IN REALITY, HES EVIL!
FOX (666) News....you fit perfect.


Plus no where in that post does he say, "Fox = Man" or "666 = Man". He clearly starts talking about the NWO, how the NWO is Satanic, Satan and how he pretends to be good, but is evil, etc., etc., ....

But as I really don't care one way or the other and have better things to do with my time than to argue with someone on the internet, I'll just finish here by telling you to believe whatever you want to believe.

The OP made a statement, and could not back that up with facts, imo.

edit for clarity.



[edit on 2/10/2007 by Mechanic 32]

[edit on 2/10/2007 by Mechanic 32]



posted on Feb, 10 2007 @ 03:44 AM
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Originally posted by LightWorker13
Can I offer any proof that the Elite are into occult and satanism?

Isnt FOX 666 proof enough?

What about the occult symbols hidden in the Washington street plan?





What about the occult symbols on the dollar bill?




What does it say? Novus Ordo Seclorum..."New Order of the Ages" another term the Elite use for the NEW WORLD ORDER.






If you look closely, you can see a tiny owl hidden on the top of the bill.

Of course there are all the satanic hand gestures they use, and incorporate in society thru entertainment, so people will think its cool and hip..

























Coincidence? Or CONSPIRACY?




Coincidence or conspiracy? i would say BS its laughable because these politicans are making a gesture with their hands that they are satanists or occultists. Is waynes worlds about devil worshipping im pretty sure they make the same gesture "party on". Im sure the last photo is from a hammer film "the devil rides out" great film. The symbols on the dollar bills are actually Egyptian symbollogy its got nothing to do with the occult



posted on Feb, 10 2007 @ 03:59 AM
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Originally posted by JackofBlades
Even if FOX is 666...... the number of the Beast is 616...

A bad translation a while back screws up your argument


Hate to quote myself but.... ^^^

The Number has only been 666 in relatively modern times. The original texts say the number is 616 (and in fact 665 has also been put forward). So don't get your knickers twisted just yet.



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