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Topic started on 17-12-2003 @ 08:41 PM by Springer
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That's a wonderous thing... The capture of Saddam has RAISED Bush's poll standings against Dean by TWENTY POINTS! (per CNN.com)
Twenty points is a here-to-for UNATTAINABLE goal for improvement in a 24 -72 hour period for a Presidential Candidate! Whoa!
All of you who are hoping for the LUNACY of a Dean Administration need to get something NEW to wish for!
Alas, I was hoping for a little "taking to task" on GHWB, Jr BEFORE he got re-elected but it appears as though that is NOT meant to be... So be
it...
I am taking BETS on the election however, jump right up!
PEACE...
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reply posted on 17-12-2003 @ 08:52 PM by 29MV29
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I have a feeling something else will happen right before elections that will almost guarantee Bush a reelection. I hope it will be nothing big, but
in the world of politics Neurolinguistics and fear are commonly used.
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reply posted on 17-12-2003 @ 08:54 PM by Springer
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While I'll agree that this is a possibility, it is my opnion that we have seen what is to come already.
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reply posted on 17-12-2003 @ 10:18 PM by Colonel
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I swear, the guy hasn't even STARTED running for President and you are counting him out. He's trying ot get the democratic nominatoin.
All this Dean talk tells me one thing: Repugnants are SCARED!
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reply posted on 17-12-2003 @ 10:26 PM by THENEO
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Go George Go! We need to put an end to part 1 of the end time plan.
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reply posted on 17-12-2003 @ 10:30 PM by Russian
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Originally posted by Colonel
I swear, the guy hasn't even STARTED running for President and you are counting him out. He's trying ot get the democratic nominatoin.
All this Dean talk tells me one thing: Repugnants are SCARED! 
Dean as you see(maybe)...
is and will be the winner for the nomination....
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reply posted on 17-12-2003 @ 10:31 PM by Russian
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Originally posted by 29MV29
I have a feeling something else will happen right before elections that will almost guarantee Bush a reelection. I hope it will be nothing big, but
in the world of politics Neurolinguistics and fear are commonly used. 
the thing that will happen before election is i think Bin Fu*ker will be cought...
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reply posted on 17-12-2003 @ 10:34 PM by heelstone
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The results of the 09/11/01 investigative committee may put a damper on the incumbent. I have no clue if Bush himself will be implicated with
inompetence in the matter, but I'm sure that having a large percentage of the current administration looking like they weren't doing their jobs in
this major event can't do anything good for public perception when voting time comes around. And then there is the matter of Iraq. Time will tell
in any case.
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reply posted on 18-12-2003 @ 09:26 AM by Bout Time
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GHWB = Head Spook in charge, Poppa Bush. Though also a spawn of the Devil, he at least worked for a living and did a real military tour.
Dean: Has not been nominated by his party - it's still a horse race; one in which the eventual winner will be so steelied that the smear campaign and
politics of personal destruction that is inevitable as a cornerstone of any Republican campaign, will be like flies on a Donkey's azz.
Exposure: As candidates for the nomination, face time on the complicit corporate media can be somewhat stifled, and it has. Given a nominated
candidate, thaey won't be able to stifle in anywhere near the same capacity.
Once the country sees their choices: A boob that has to be stage managed & recieve the questions in advance on the most simple Q&A sessions, and one
who has no genuine intellectual curiosity
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Educated, accomplished men who can speak on any topic and give cogent, insightful answers from the hip....who do you think they'll choose?
I also think the Osama will be found at an opportune time, just as Saddam was.
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reply posted on 18-12-2003 @ 10:35 AM by nyeff
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First off...rember to take polls with a grain of salt. I saw 2 polls on Fox last night. One had Dean ahead of Lieberman by 18%,the other had him
ahead by only 6%. Big gap between the 2 numbers.
But I do think Deans anti Iraq speeches, and blasting the Whitehouse has come back to haunt him. It also gave the other dems that have talked tough
on Iraq an issue to drag Dean down with.
I still don't think it will matter though,Bush will bury them more than likely.
[Edited on 12/18/2003 by nyeff]
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reply posted on 19-12-2003 @ 03:45 AM by OXmanK
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I think once we get our first couple of debates, the country will see who deserves the presidency more.
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reply posted on 19-12-2003 @ 07:30 AM by Gazrok
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You think the American public actually watches the debates???
Sorry, I just spilled my drink....
 I also think the Osama will be found at an opportune time, just as Saddam was.
And Bout Time gets the cupie doll!!!
I'd bet that 8 out of 10 Americans have no idea who Dean even is (sad.....but true)....*sigh*
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reply posted on 19-12-2003 @ 12:51 PM by DiRtYDeViL
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Originally posted by Colonel
I swear, the guy hasn't even STARTED running for President and you are counting him out. He's trying ot get the democratic nominatoin.
All this Dean talk tells me one thing: Repugnants are SCARED! 
They should be.
Dean is fiscally conservative and has an A rating from the NRA. He will get spending under control. He won't take our rights away not even our second
amendment rights which a lot of liberals have learned the hard way not to touch. I like what Dean says he has balls I also like what Clark says but he
is one of Clintons protégés which is a huge strike against him in my book. Gephardt, and Kerry no balls they stand for nothing they voted for the
patriot act and allowing Bush to declare war without congressional approval. Bush is a crook and needs to go. Bush was born with a silver spoon in his
mouth never worked a day in his life period we don't need old money Elitist as our president we need a common man., one without connections to old
money, big business and Saudi Arabia.
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reply posted on 19-12-2003 @ 12:52 PM by KrazyIvan
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HA HA HA THATS #ING AWSOME!
dean can kiss my consevative ass!
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reply posted on 19-12-2003 @ 12:56 PM by DiRtYDeViL
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Originally posted by KrazyIvan
HA HA HA THATS #ING AWSOME!
dean can kiss my consevative ass! 
Really some conservative you are supporting an administration that has limited your rights and spent your money faster then any president ever in
American history. Your not a conservative your a socialist.
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reply posted on 19-12-2003 @ 01:05 PM by insite
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Originally posted by Gazrok
You think the American public actually watches the debates???
I'd bet that 8 out of 10 Americans have no idea who Dean even is (sad.....but true)....*sigh* 
Gazrok, how do you manage to speak such truisms so humerously? It's a gift, you need a blog! Gazrok for Prez!
And to Bush, when you can barely read yourself, how do you propose to fix the education system? Oh thats right, it suits your interests to keep the
commoners in the dark. It'll be a glorious day when my peers are actually astute enough to understand/care about what the hell is going on outside of
the party this weekend and who's bringing the keg tap.
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reply posted on 19-12-2003 @ 01:11 PM by KrazyIvan
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Originally posted by DiRtYDeViL
Originally posted by KrazyIvan
HA HA HA THATS #ING AWSOME!
dean can kiss my consevative ass! 
Really some conservative you are supporting an administration that has limited your rights and spent your money faster then any president ever in
American history. Your not a conservative your a socialist. 
was that money going to poor people? nope. thats not socialism. taking my money and giving it to people who cant get their # together is socialism
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reply posted on 19-12-2003 @ 01:28 PM by DiRtYDeViL
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Originally posted by KrazyIvan
Originally posted by DiRtYDeViL
Originally posted by KrazyIvan
HA HA HA THATS #ING AWSOME!
dean can kiss my consevative ass! 
Really some conservative you are supporting an administration that has limited your rights and spent your money faster then any president ever in
American history. Your not a conservative your a socialist. 
was that money going to poor people? nope. thats not socialism. taking my money and giving it to people who cant get their # together is socialism

Jesus Christ you’re a moron. By bankrupting the country through extreme deficits who do you think is going to wind up owning the business and land?
Giving money to lazy ass wipes isn't Socialism it's stupidity. Remember USSR =Union of Socialist Soviet Republics. Nazi = Socialism. You can still
have your cronies control production and make a profit and have socialism. We don't own land. The government right now can take any land they want
for any #ing reason they want. So yes by supporting Bush you support Corporatism and Socialism you are a #ing traitor!
Socialism:
1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and
distribution of goods
2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production
are owned and controlled by the state
3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay
according to work done
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reply posted on 19-12-2003 @ 04:10 PM by KrazyIvan
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what right have been limited then?
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reply posted on 19-12-2003 @ 04:29 PM by Gazrok
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 what right have been limited then? 
Oh boy....where to begin...???
I didn't even realize how far-reaching it was, until I went to the bank the other day, to deposit (not even cash mind you, just deposit) a check my
fiance' signed over to me. You see, I work near my bank, she works across town. We both work during hours that the bank is open. But, thanks to
the Patriot Act, I can no longer do this. She has to be, get this....PHYSICALLY PRESENT, in order to do this? I'm not sure what world these jokers
are living in....but this means I have to drive across town, pick her up (during our lunch hour), then go to the bank, deposit the check, and then
take her back to work, and then go back to work myself (all of this just isn't happening in an hour).
That's just one off the top of my head. I also travel alot for my job. Don't even get me started on the little changes post 911...(I still chuckle
when trying to think of any possible way to use nail clippers as a viable weapon...and then realize that my shoelaces (when used as a garotte), would
make a far better weapon....) I don't mind a little extra security, but some of it just is ridiculous...
Then there are the detainees. The government's right to spy on it's citizens has grown exponentially, and many of the obstacles that protected us
from such intrusion, have been obliterated. Do you have any idea how long they could detain you, without trial, if suspected of terrorism?
We've lost something alright....not the farm yet, not be a long shot....but it isn't alarming what we lost, but more alarming that we simply gave it
away so quickly, from a little "boo" from an international boogeyman...
Disclaimer: While I'm no fan of Bush (the man is an idiot), I still don't think Dean has a prayer....especially when the trump card of Osama is
played before the next election....
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